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Where is the border between healthy critique and ‘unhealthy, too-much-praising’ praising for a 6 years old? She shows such a mean attitude that she is scaring me

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DD is 6 and already has strong reactions towards any kind of criticism towards her actions. She has difficulties accepting any negative words from us and what scares me most is the way she behaves when it happens. I can’t correct her writing exercises without long discussions about ‘it’s ok to do mistakes, we need to practise more, well done for now etc etc, and even so, she is not fully happy. I can’t explain that it’s not nice to go and poor shampoo into the soup that I just finished cooking because then we can all get sick if we eat it, without having her go into her room and making angry sounds…. Most of the times she pretends to accept it in front of us, but then she goes back to her room and I can hear her talking to herself, either blaming us or calling herself a bad girl and threatening to hit herself …. No real tantrums, which I would understand and accept, after all, but instead grudging feelings, silent anger, blaming others, and trying to get revenge in whatever way she can despite the fact that we try to talk calmly to her, trying to explain things …. I’m terrified!!! Is this normal for such a young child?

On the other hand, I have heard from her school, already a year ago when she was only 5, about her keeping an angry mood FOR HOURS, sometimes for the whole day! Even remembering it the next day and trying to ‘punish’ the teachers for her being put on time out.

On top of that, I everyday have to listen to her telling negative stories about the kids in school …. I mean EVERY DAY! Not one positive story about her colleagues! I started to dread the moments when she is coming home and when we are supposed to talk about her day. I tried over and over again to direct her towards more positive stories but then it’s always HER who is the nice girl and in a minute she is back to that girl refusing to play with her, that boy calling her names, etc…. She shows frustration when I try to tell her that there must be nice things that her ‘friends’ are doing! She promptly changes the subject. The teachers are telling me she has friends in the class and many times they play very nicely together, share things, help each others, but she never seems to remember or be happy about those moments…. They are ALWAYS bad and she is ALWAYS good.

I can only assume this is all about her low self-esteem. But is it really? …. If so, what can I do to improve her self-esteem, but in the same time make her understand that children have to accept the consequences as their own fault? She seems so keen on blaming others that it scares me while she is not able to accept any faults of herself (she even goes against the adults. She tried to accuse her teachers of stealing her food, she comes to me telling about her father was trying to teach her STUPID things against what I have told her, she goes to my husband telling him I talk bad things about her and so on … ). She seems a happy, exuberant child and very loving (a bit too loving to everybody ) until the minute she has to listen about her own mistakes.

The reward charts don’t seem to work in the sense where she feels rewarded, but she would rather take it for granted that the star MUST be there every day, otherwise she gets angry …. I really don’t know what do anymore …. Shall I just try to ignore her naughty behaviours for a while and just praise her for whatever she does right? Shall I just try to ignore her mean stories? because, frankly speaking I’m tired of commenting on all those silly, naughty kids/adults/facts she is always talking about …. Is this just a phase???? Do we do something wrong?

Sorry about this long post but I just had to take it off my chest …. DD is coming from school soon and I’m gonna have to drown myself again into her world that is so mean and full of negative stories, It’s just hard to bear and listen to.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 15-Jul-09 11:29:37
not sure what advice to give, but I hope you can get some help and support on saturday. sounds very upsetting for all of you.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 15-Jul-09 11:19:28
It happened again these days ... actually the negativ mood lasted for 3 days! First i tried to make her understand from her own point of view, how those things that she does can hurt her, then i tried the 'you hurt me, you make me sad' strategy, then in the third day i just explained to DD that what she did was naughty, unacceptable, something we don't tollerate in this family (she told us lies and kept being mean to everybody) and then tried to ignore her anger outbursts. It went so bad i wish i was dead ..... or at least a million kms away! She got so angry, especially when she noticed i did'n seem too impressed (which was not easy to fake). Is it just that i do something wrong? On saturday we will meet a psycholog .... uuuuuf i just feel so worn out, so afraid she will be rejected by everybody else if she keeps behaving like this ...
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Tue 07-Jul-09 13:19:58
thank you all again for sharing your experiences. i was also thinking about the 'time will heal' and we just have to be patient.... but then i am also terrified, what if she goes into a vicious circle like she is always negative to her friends and then they will, of course, move away from her, then she feels rejected etc ... i already know a boy who went through this, he is now 19 and his life is completely screwd up just because his parents failed to see that he had difficulties in socialising years ago ... i'm scared to just wait and see ...
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 20:44:13
My DD1 (6.5) can be like this. Delightful, lovely girl most of time ... perfectionist but also not willing to put in effort into things that she finds difficult (riding bike, etc), can be v.sensitive and gets very cross/upset/stomps off when we correct her, laugh at something we think is funny, tell her off, etc. We can have had a fantastic day then something doesn't go her way and she'll start to cry and say "I've had a horrible day" and so on. She has had some friendship issues and that has been hard to listen to. It's always them, never her.

I've spent time talking to her about perspective, widening her circle of friends etc. I've also got to the point when I've had enough and make a couple of "oh dear" type comments and then change the subject. Seems to be working.

A friend also told me that it's very normal for children to get negative in the evening. She called it 'misery eyes': they're tired and everything seems miserable in their eyes and they splurge it all out to you. But it's not really how they see everything.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 19:09:08
Hi, my ds (4.5) is a bit like this. He won't apply any effort at all to anything because he's afraid of getting it wrong and he's very full of stories about how bad the other children in his class are. He's quite negative and tantrumy. I'm sure it's about self esteem for him. My main objective is to get him to complete tasks (often difficult as he's a middle child), so he sees that applying effort is worth it as it gets to a result. Things like puzzles, reading a few letters, things that he can do (and without the other los being around butting in).
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 04-Jul-09 18:57:19
Hi there... My daughter is also negative about her classmates== she's 5 and can say really hurtful and negative things about them. She does it too us too and up to now I've been trying to explain to her that it's just really negative to be like that.. and it's just not true that they "always" do this, that or the other.
But a friend of mine, who's daughter is very similar and now 8 years old, gave me some good advice the other day.
Apparently it's better not to enter "their" world too much. Ignore most of the negative chat about their day, and if they're horrible to you try not to take it personally (which i was doing).
She said the parent has to be the adult and the "holder" of the situation. Not to get too drawn in, but providing perspective.
You have to keep going, just being honest and then letting her go to her room to work it through in her own way.
when she comes back down, just continue as normal.
Don't know if that's helpful! Good luck!
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 01-Jul-09 23:29:48
My ds can be like this. He is 12 and is old enough to be able to be told that some of the things he does are just not on. He is so much better than when he was younger when he used to do the vengeful things like your dd - spraying his sisters toothbrush with deoderant, fairy liquid in the milk, tipping my best shampoo down the sink. He has improved, he does a paper round and I make him pay for absolutely anything he ruins, amazingly it doesn't always work and he will still occassionaly break things in a fit of temper. Like your dd he is generally a lovely boy but flips if he is criticized and also sometimes comes home from school and tells me endless stories about other children being mean to him. If he tells me that somebody has hit him for instance I will ask him if he did nothing back and when he says no I ask him if he just stood and took the hits and he then realises that I'm not totally convinced. I try to confront this behaviour whenever I can, although it can be draining and there were times when he was younger that I would just want to let it pass as I couldn't bear his the thought of a destructive temper tantrum. As I have said it is mainly time that has made him better, although he will still look me in the eye and tell me something that we both know isn't true and is just him lying to protect himself. I'm afraid I don't have any real advise to give you, I would say that time has helped a great deal. I actually spoke to him yesterday about this and told him some of the things he did when he was little and he was shocked that he could have been like that.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 01-Jul-09 22:53:32
i don't know how you react to those stories really. can you laugh at them and indulge her a bit then call it a day? or laugh and then say 'she wasn't really doing that was she?' in a conspiritorial way that lets her know you know she has made it up?
do you know if there is anyone she particularly likes in her class?

i have a rule that if they start a group or activity they have to keep it up for a year. dd is on gym squad and really wants to learn the routines etc but gets v tired. i don't know whether i'm pushy, whether its healthy to train so much or whether she really wants to do it. so when she moans about goign i just ask about the end result ie do you want to do x y z on the beam? she always does so i keep taking her and talking her into it. dunno if that helps.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 01-Jul-09 19:11:31
I wonder if we do spend too much time listening to our children and maybe we could tell them a bit about our lives...We could say today I saw...it was great/bad/fun/dull....I said x... they said y...then we decided to do z. Maybe just make up some stories that demonstrate that we all have dilemmas ans show her an example of talking thru a problem
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Wed 01-Jul-09 15:25:58
DD keeps inventing these mean stories about whoever gets into her attention! I'm so fed up!!!! I so don't know anymore how to react on it (tried ignoring them but they keep coming day after day after day) .... i know i'm repeating myself, it's just that today was again one of those days when she went over the top again.
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