I think that Tyrone and Cyrus are lovely - great for a little boy, but definitely suitable for teenagers /grownups too.

Cyrus - Billy Ray. How about Osiris?
Tyrone - great name
Oshian (Oshi for short) - pretentious and horrible
Oren - made up
Keir - Nice. Prefer the spelling Kier.
Lukas - Nice name, very popular at the moment.
Amies - Can see what you're going for, but it just sounds like a plural of Amy.
Bryn - lovely name.

In Welsh you spell it Osian - but pronounce it Osh-un. I love it - the only one on the list I like actually!

only like bryn to be honest a friends little boy is called this and he is lovely. x

I know an Osian who is Welsh, but with no 'H', I also know a Ieuan.

Lucas or Luca is nice, also know a Sidney!

I too am pregnant with twins - a girl and a boy - before you get pregnant - its all you dream about names for a girl ...names for a boy ...but I have made the mistake of asking around the family what they think of some of my choices - and no one agrees.... just to say dont like English names much - and I want Llewellyn as a second name for the boy ....what do you think of:

OLivier (My fav - everyone hates it)
Orlando
Raphael
Casper
REdmond (Red)
Christophe (Kit)

Louisa
Rosanna (Rosa)
Raphaella (Rae)
Haley - (too dated?)

Keir is a great name. It means dark haired one. I have one and it suits him down the ground. No one thinks it is particularly weird and we generally get a great reaction to it. They usually say like short version of Keiran? So it feels familiar to them even though it is very unusual.

We do get a lot of people mispelling it as Kier (like the building firm) but we just say it is spelt EI like Keith. In South London some people do pronounce it with 2 syllables as KIA, but it doesnt bother us or him as he is definitely very boyish.

I also like Bryn which I think is in the same ilk. Unusal but simple to pronounce and steeped with Gaelic heritage.

Don't listen to the person who says this is the worst list ever. I think it is a great shortlist. Go for Keir or Bryn! Lucas is getting very common round these here parts.

Just to let the person that thinks that Lukas is just Lucas spelt wrongly or trying to be different, that it is actually the Scandinavian spelling, and it was the top name in both Sweden and Norway for 2009.

Bryn...

What about Aneurin? Good Welsh heritage and can be shortened to the easily pronounceable Nye.

I like Kier and Lukas but spelt Lucas (otherwise he will spell his entire life spelling out his name)

I am struggling with all apart from Keir

I agree with Leannabanana that Silas is much nicer than Cyrus.

I actually quite like most of them! Unusual but not silly.

I really like Keir and Lukas, Bryn is nice. I know someone with a little boy called Orin, and I think that's lovely.

Not keen on Cyrus, never heard of Amies before, and Tyrone sounds like a pit bull to me. Undecided about Oshian - I'm not a big fan of the name Oisin either.

If its a welsh or welsh spelt name your looking for, what about these -

Dewey
Dewi
Daryn
Owain
Owein
Dilan
Dylan
Dyllan
Dyllon
Ioan
Reece
Kai
Bevan
Beven
Bevin
Brynn
Brys
Cai
Cain

We wanted a welsh name (both me and Dp are welsh) for our 4th which is due in sept but have decided on an irish name instead Ryley
Still cant agree on a girls name

Without a shadow of a doubt that is the worst list of boys names I have ever seen.

So truly, terribly bad.

The best is Bryn but who could call their child that after Rob Brydon in 'Gavin and Stacey'?. Yes as a middle name but you need to come up with summat else for the first name unless you live in a croft in the middle of nowhere.

Oran is a city in northern Algeria.
I always thought the name was spelled Orrin.

cyrus...NO...silas is better....

i really am not keen on the rest either. How about Roscoe?

mileniwmffalcon love it!

Osian as a Welsh name is lovely, but you have to spell it correctly!

So glad somebody got a name out of this!

this thread has inspired a namechange

Lukas is just the foreign spelling, though. I don't see anything wrong with that.

My fave is Lucas but only with a c not k. Sorry a pet hate of mine is unusual spellings, makes me think parents are a bit dim if they can't spell name correctly.

Tyrone reminds me of that character in coronation street - shame when soaps use a nice name and give to either a simple or not nice character.

I do feel for you as i am trying to think of name for my soon to be dd. When you're not pregnant you can think of lots of great names but when it comes down to actually naming a real person its a bit more tricky.

Millenniumfalcon, I'd pronounce Huw your way too (I grew up in N Wales). Sadly it's not a name I'm that keen on, in fact I don't like most Welsh boys names. And all the Welsh girls names I like don't pronounce well in English (the ones that do are already overwhelmingly popular). You just can't win!

Bryn and Kier are nice.

Tyrone sounds like a pitbulll terriers name.

Lucas is okay.

Hate the rest.

Ah OK, they seem very welsh to me but not welsh speaking. At least the adults aren't, all the kids seem to speak weslh these days though.

well, there's welsh and there's welsh-speaking welsh i grew up in n wales where it was about 30% welsh speaking so everyone pronounced welsh names the welsh way.

I know a welsh Huw and he and all his welsh family and mates call him Huw same as Hugh (hYou) never met anyone who said it differnt.

ah but then she'd get us lot on her back about how he's pronouncing huw (in welsh the u sounds like an i )

lol can't win!

Go for Oisin!

Or Cyrus or Keir or Lukas.

I would have been slated for my dds' names if I'd posted them on musment beforehand. But if you just call the child a name then everyone will be much politer about it, after the act.

Bryn is nice.

Lucas (Lukas) is nice.

If you want welsh how about Huw? Ilove that.

Huwie is cute when little.

The trouble with names is that everyone can find a bad/good connotation with every name.

I think you and DP should just go with whatever name you both like, you have to live with it after all. Even after you have registered baby you have time to go and change it if you decide you can't live with it - I know 2 different people who did that.

Personally I'm afraid I don't like any of them but then I know dogs called Tyrone and Cyrus and Bryn makes me think of chap in Gavin & Stacey! But then I like names like Emrys, Gethin, Gwillum and Felix - it takes all sorts!

You just go for it..!!

We don't live in or near Wales or Ireland and the little Oisin we know doesn't seem to be struggling with his name. He's 7. pronounced OSH-in. Stress on the first syllable. Not difficult once you've heard it once.

I like a lot of the other names on the OP's list too though.

<whispers to lowri> we have an "ll" although according to the babyname police that means they'll never let us in to england, or something

hmm Oren = Orange and Bryn = hill so im not keen on either ! lol

wha tabout Dewi ? Dafydd ? Geraint ? Gethin ?

I love all of those

also quite like Osian

Lowri - No offence taken! I know David scores -10 on the originality-o-meter - and it wasn't an entirely serious suggestion - but, if you live outside Wales, I think you risk making life difficult for a child if you give him or her a name which is so hard for English speakers to pronounce that they need to listen to a website to get the right pronunciation!

I dislike the name Bryn because the only one I know is a love rat. I like Rhys, though, and once had a lovely colleague called Ifor.

Oh no, Lionstar, you're not delusional! Don't lose heart!
These are much nicer names than something like David (sorry boccadellaverita but that's just too boring!!)

millenniumfalcon ooh I love lleucu!!!
Although using "LL" is probably pushing it I suspect

Oh dear! I hope I'm not adding to the confusion! I was trying to describe this ...

Welsh Osian
(nappyaddict's brilliant site - it actually says it out loud)

Lionstar we haven’t started using a nick name yet, but one of my friends has started calling him Oshi already, and I really like it.

Well spotted millenniumfalcon, everyone thinks I'm Low-Rib! (Although I don't mind )

I pronounce Lowri the anglicised way I'm afraid, like the painter Lowri. But I think if you want to do it the Welsh (proper!) way it's more like Low-ree (Low as in low-down, and rolling the r if you can - sadly I can't )
Like this

I love Bryn and if I have a ds3 I would name him that! Not keen on any of the others though

We have an Aled and Evan already.

What about Rhys, Wyn, Gwyn, Iwan?

Oshian is actually spelled Osian as an S in welsh has a SH sound (like Sian)

Please don't make me link to my baby naming advice post again!

That is a great girls name actually. I like Esyllt too - but there's no way that works well in England (even the anglicised versions Iseult/Isolde is hard to say in English!). As a completely random fact my DD has a stuffed dog called Isotta which is the Italian form (thought you'd all be riveted by that factiod)

oh cool, yep me too, that's a relief. now, about the spelling... ;)

shame that site doesn't have lleucu, now there's a name i'd like to see used more often

It's just too hard to get the pronunciation written down . The site nappyaddict linked to has sound clips - THAT's how I would pronounce it (but not in a male voice obviously)

And yes, I can see that I'm totally delusional, as DP has been telling me all along. Thanks for the reality check (still like the names though)

Well, it was you who used the adjective delusional. How about David for the Welsh connection?

I only really like Bryn. I know of a little one but (the lovely) Rob Brydon's portrayal of Bryn in Gavin and Stacey is putting me off.

Oren is spelt Odhran here (Ireland). I dare ya to use it and get people to spell it!

lol at brainachey long/short o confusion orange=short o, ocean=long o, surely?

Thanks lowrib, and Yey an Ossian - congrats on your new son. I admit I have probably chosen an anglicised form of the name, but as I like Oshi for short I thought it fitted better. Do you shorten yours?

Having lived in Wales I have always pronounced Osian with a long O as in orange. If it was a short O woulnd't it come out sounding rather like 'ocean'? Maybe only in an English voice though, with a Welsh inflexion it is different? It's so hard describing Welsh pronunciation!

I do realise the Oren/orange problem in Welsh. It probably does rule it out as we spend a fair amount of time in Wales.

every welsh osian i know pronounces it with a short o lowri- btw how do you pronounce lowri?

I am not keen on any of the boy's names, sorry.

If I had to chose one - Lukas - but prefer it spelt with a c (Lucas)

nappyaddict that's a great site

Ok, it's

Oisín - Irish (pronounced O-sheen)
Osian - Welsh (Pronounced O-shan) (Long O)
Ossian - Scottish (Pronounced Osh-ian)

Oshian - think this is a made up version to help the ignorant English pronounce it!!

They are all versions of the same name.

Yes, you will have to spell it out, but I think this shouldn;t be a reason not to go for a name you love. There are a whole load of beautiful Celtic names (for example) with unusual (i.e. not English) spellings, which would die out completely if people didn't use them, which would be a great shame.

I have had to spell my surname out all my life, and it doesn't bother me at all!

Oh people can be so boring!! Don't listen to the nay sayers, your choices are great.

Personally I love Oshian, but then I'm biased my DS (4 weeks old) is Ossian - the same name, although we pronounce it Osh-ian (Ossian is another 'proper' spelling!).

We've had loads of compliments on his name from people in RL, and there's a great story behind the name. Here's one version

I also like
Oren
Keir
Lukas
Bryn
Amez

I know a little boy Oisin (I think it's spelt that way). I like it.

My Dad is called Hywel and my brother's second name is Elwyn. Bless 'em...

More welsh names;

Steffan, Evan, Owain, Aled, Cai, Iwan.

this site is good for pronunciation of welsh names. Some of them can be quite hard to say without a welsh accent so you might want to avoid those.

Ah yes sorry Oisin which I was thinking of is Irish. If you want a Welsh name go for Osian.

Ceri is a nice Welsh name too.

I think they are all awful, sorry.

owain is nice (oh-wine)

yep welsh name is spelled osian and prn with a short "o" osh-ann.

Only really like Oshian but I think the usual Welsh spelling is Osian.

Oren - no - I'm afraid that oren is Welsh for orange.

Bryn is OK but a bit 'middle-aged-man-ish' (never heard it used for a girl though!) What about Gwyn or Gwyndaf (pr. Gwyndav) - you could then have Gwyn or Daf (Dav) as a petname?

Sorry for being facetiosus before. If I think about it I actually rather like some of them.

Oshian and Oren sound much nicer than they look.

Lukas is quite nice as well.

How about Amos, Amie, Amis or Amiel? There's Ames but it is pronounced like James without the J.

Man you gotta have a girl. Sorry

Are those really all names?

It looks like a list of words you can make from one long one. We had to do that with Nebuchadnezzzar one time.

I got 44 words but they had run out of prizes

I like Oren and Lucas spelt with a c.

I think that Cyrus is ok and I really dislike Tyrone.

I like Bryn, Cyrus and Lukas. Lukas is the german/scandinavian version though. Would the english spelling of Lucas not be better?

Again spell it properly - It is pronounced Osh-een and spelt Oisin.

Oren means pine tree in Hebrew.

Keir doesn't sound finished to me iyswim.

Never heard of Amies sorry.

Don't like Tyrone at all. Sounds a bit yobbish to me (sorry to anyone who has a child called this)

I did ask - and now am judged, I'm trying too hard! What about if I just like the sound of those names though?

Not quite sure what you mean by cultural Custardo - mostly they are names I just like. Oshian and Bryn (and maybe Oren) have a Welsh background which is kind of cultural for me.

LightShines, I would pronounce Oshian as O-shan (with a long o sound as in orange). Amies is A-mez and Oren as O-ren (with the same long o sound as before)

Cyrus - trying far too hard to be different and he just might not be 'cool' enough to pull it off!

Tyrone - NO

Oshian (Oshi for short)- NO

Oren - NO

Keir- NO

Lukas - OK if it is spelt properly ie Lucas. There is a LOUKAS in my school and I just know it is because his parents couldnt spell properly!

Amies- NO

Bryn - Uncle Bryn from Gavin and Stacey played by Rob Brydon. Not keen really.

None of these are my choice either but what about

Keiran
Levi
Malachi
Logan
Kyle
Kai
Owen

I like Kier as in Hardy (but then my bro is named after Clement Atlee!), others not so much, poss Lukas.

Cyrus really makes me think of Billy Ray sorry...

oh Lukas is lovely!

I have heard of two Orrins recently, so that is growing on me. Never heard of Oren.
I know a very lovely Bryn.
Kier is great, and less 'popular' than Kieran.

Don't really like the others, sorry.

Cyrus - billy ray
Tyrone cultural?
Oshian (Oshi for short) - is this a cultural thing i am missing?

Oren - cultural?
Keir hardy - first labour leader - nowt wrong with that

Lukas - with a 'c' or else its wrong and you look either desperate for attention or dyslexic or ill educated

Amies - what now? is this cultural

Bryn - nowt wrong with bryn

its all very try hard

are you German too (wanting Lukas rather than Lucas)?

I think Bryn is nice. My Dad's a Brynmor (the bigger the better!). There are lots of nice names for Welsh boys, tho I think less so for girls.

How would you pronounce Oshian, Amies and Oren, please?

They look nice written down, but if people have to ask how to say them, you will be back on here in a year's time with a thread : *AIBU to expect people to be able to say my baby's name?!!*

Bryn or Lucas. Not Lukas.

Bryn is a boys name!

Oisin

FFS

sorry, even

I hate them all, orry!

Agree with Sesi. There is a (fabulous) Irish boy' name Oisini (pronounced either Osh-een or Oh-sheen). Is Oshian derived from that?

I really kind of love the name Bryn. Understated but strong name.

Keir is a close second.

Oshian/Oren sound like weird variants of the Irish name Oisin (Osh-sheen).

Lukas & Amies - ok.

Cyrus & Tyrone - awful, middle aged red neck type of names.

Cyrus is nice!
Lukas ok.

I like Cyrus. I'm thinking Cyrus the Great rather than Billy Ray.

Not keen on any of the others. Sorry.

Bryn and Keir are the only two I like. Keir is probably my preference, a good strong Gaelic name.

The others either remind me of soap characters or American singers with bad haircuts, or are just a bit wanky. Sorry

My son is Brynley. However its usually shortened to Bryn or Brynnas.

Oshian is lovely. I really don't like any of the others.

cyrus is lovely and different isnt malaki irish i dont know the spelling my ds are finlay and riley there good name well i think so ...lol

I really like Tyrone, Cyrus and Bryn.

Don't mind Lukas (but VERY popular on Continent)

Don't like Oshian, Amies, Oren and Keir.

Oh dear, I don't think I can face up to the fact that DP might just be right on this one, even Bryn is winning out!

BTW Oshian is a Welsh variant of the Irish boys name. There are a number of spellings though. It's a name I've always liked since growing up in Wales.

Yep agree Cyrus makes me want to sing "achy breaky heart"

Don't like any of the rest either <<sorry>>

Cyrus like Billy Ray Cyrus. Really??!!
Tyrone is ok.
Oshian (Oshi for short) is a no.
Oren pardon?
Keir nope.
Lukas is a great name!
Amies sounds like something belonging to a girl called Amie.
Bryn is ok if you are Welsh.

My DH is called Bryn, he spent his life being teasted about it or called Brian, Ryan, Byron etc and changed it to his middle name when he came to uni.

He is from Yorkshire though so that may have been part of the issue.

I like Keir and Lucas.

Bryn is nice.

I like Bryn and Lucas. I think Tyrone is awful.

Not keen on any.

Oisin is a boy's name. Ciaran pronounced Kier-On is lovely when said correctly.Eoin pronounced as in Owen, or even spelled Owen?

I like Keir best...but it does sound like a 'teenage' shortening of Keiran.

Quite like Bryn, but I find the others a bit 'trying too hard'

Sorry

if you like Oshi, why not just call him that??

oran is irish and means pale, or light

cyrus reminds me of hannah montana, sorry
or billy rae cyrus (lol)

Depends on the surname tbh. Cyrus reminds me of Billy Ray, LuCas, Oshian sounds like the Irish Oisin which is a girl's name.

Keep going ladies, I need to be told just how delusional I am - DP will be very proud of you.

Does no-one like Cyrus? I have a hankering for Cyrus

Tyrone is OK but only if shortened to Ty.

Lukas is OK

I don't like the rest, sorry

Prefer Oran to Oren. Oren means 'ears' in dutch.

Bryn is lovely. Lucas is nice. The rest are horrible.

i have a nephew Oren
although they spelt it Oran

i like Keir

Dont like any - kind of like Lukas - but only with a c not a k

I don't like any of 'em either, sorry.

Well, since you asked - I think they're all horrible. sorry!

I like Oren, Keir and Lukas. Bryn's nice - but I mostly think of it as a girls name?

Still TTC No. 2 at the moment. Girls names are impossible, but for a boy I am liking:

Cyrus
Tyrone
Oshian (Oshi for short)
Oren
Keir
Lukas
Amies
Bryn

DP is stuggling with all except Bryn (which is probably my least favourite) - we need a Welsh element so it may become the middle name.