to be annoyed that ds's teacher told him a spider is an insect?

(209 Posts)
pofacedandproud Tue 13-Oct-09 16:16:52

Ok ds is in reception, but still. I have always told him a spider is not an insect but an arachnid, insects have 6 legs, etc, but today he came home and said 'Mrs X told me that I could bring a spider to school as the letter this week is I for insect'

I asked him if she really suggested a spider for 'I'. And he was very sure she had. So I told him again a spider was an arachnid. I know it is a small thing but it does annoy me, her telling them that. Yes I know she does an amazing job with 30 children, and she is great, but still.

pofacedandproud Sun 18-Oct-09 00:02:35

<Missing comma alert>

pofacedandproud Sun 18-Oct-09 00:01:46

SleepySquirrel I have already said my ds's teacher is lovely and I would not dream of mentioning it to her. Teachers are not though, beyond criticism, obviously.

BubbaAndBump Sat 17-Oct-09 09:36:05

DH and I are both teachers, and he's a science teacher to boot. I told him the heading of this thread as I knew it would make his blood boil too. I laughed when I saw the tomato-as-a-vegetable debate start (as I like to be pedantic and point out people's errors when calling a fruit a vegetable etc), and told him this too in a knowing aren't-people-ignorant type way, expecting him to agree. ~ But he didn't!!!!! shock Divorce papers are on their way...

Gracie123 Sat 17-Oct-09 09:21:04

Stuff is dumbed down for kids. It has to be.
I'm sure when you were taught that plants 'make' oxygen in junior school they didn't take you through the entire chemical process of photosynthesis.

Anyone who has done a science degree knows that everything you learn at GCSE is the dumbed down version. Why would reception be any different?

ilovespagbol Fri 16-Oct-09 23:16:09

I thought it was an insect. Am I the only one? (have not read all this though as life is a bit too short). grin

cory Fri 16-Oct-09 22:17:27

SleepySquirrel, pointing out that teachers sometimes get it wrong, or even laughing about some of their howlers is not the same as being disrespectful (are you saying teachers never laugh at pupils' howlers in the privacy of the staff room?). I want my children to be respectful of teachers as in being polite and considerate of their feelings. But as to believing that they are always right- good heavens, no! I'm a teacher myself, my parents were teachers, my grandparents were teachers: I do not believe in the infallibility of teachers. And if teachers laugh at the howlers of pupils when pupils are at a safe distance, then surely parents (and even pupils) can be allowed to do the same. The reason dd is able to be kind and gentle to her (quite remarkably ignorant) history teacher is that she is able to come home and blow off steam about what she actually tells the class- that plus the fact that she has never been made to believe that teachers are godlike beings who know more than other educated people.

VulpusinaWilfsuit Fri 16-Oct-09 22:10:09

Oh jeez. Sorry. I was a bit offensive. But I have nothing but complete respect for school teachers. I am a teacher, of a sort and have no idea how they manage huge classes of kids and STILL manage to do their job professionally and with kindness. They are, truly, my heroes (though usually in primary heroines)

This is private joshing, really. Not really intended for teachers' ears directly, though of course you're all here.

It isn't quite the same as disrespect.

Wonder if anyone being offensive and objectionable about teachers has been in a classroom recently. How lovely it must be to be so sure of ones own perfection. Small wonder then that such a large percentage of children have little or no respect for teachers. They are 'learning' from their parents. Teaching is a vocation, and very hard work. It used to be a joy. Just like it used to be human to err.

Take in a spider and say 'it has an insect - a fly in this case inside it's stomach. It ingested it. grin

simplesusan Thu 15-Oct-09 22:49:37

I agree Milly but have let it go. She is a new teacher as the old one has retired and perhaps felt a bit threatened by my daughter correcting her on what is supposed to be her "specialist" subject.

Woollymummy Thu 15-Oct-09 22:41:37

If it were me, I would take an invisible insect and an identifiable invertebrate, and I would take pictures of spiders and say "This is for another week, next time it is A for arachnid" - gotta speak their language, aintcha?!

MillyR Thu 15-Oct-09 22:40:45

Simplesusan, that is very strange. I don't know why someone calling themselves English should be provocative.

simplesusan Thu 15-Oct-09 22:34:09

MillyR the teacher apparently asked dd what nationality she is (don't know why) to which dd replied "English" then the teacher said "Don't get awkward with me, you know that you are British."
Both myself and dh were angry because my dd was correct as England is part of bloody Britain and also the teacher should have then explained like I did that yes you are English but we usually just say British, that is what they put on your passport.
I am keeping an ear out because any further quips from the same teacher and I will be straight on the phone to the head of year.

edam Thu 15-Oct-09 22:30:10

Read the thread, Mummeeee, turns out grouping and classifying are an important part of the curriculum at this age. And more importantly teachers should not be telling children things that are untrue. 'Spiders are insects' is not vaguely right, it's not a simplified idea for children, it's just wrong.

mumeeee Thu 15-Oct-09 21:51:08

YABU to be annoyed. The teacher might actually think they are insects or she just mighthave just thought it was easier to tell a 4 year old this. He is only in reception so relax a bit and just make sure he knows the correct term when he comes to taking his GCSEs.

Maybe they come from the school for stupid teachers.
I once had dd1`s yr1 teacher ask if her new twin brother and sister were identical!!!!!!!!!!

Pyrocanthus Thu 15-Oct-09 19:16:19

Vulpus - perhaps he attends the same synagogue as the Jewish guy in The Apprentice who, when instructed to buy a kosher chicken in a market in Marrakech, bought one from a halal butcher and got the muslim butcher to say a prayer over it.

VulpusinaWilfsuit Thu 15-Oct-09 18:57:55

Never mind spiders, DS's RE teacher told him today that Jewish people weren't allowed to eat chicken! shock Because they don't have cloven hoofs apparently.

Chicken FFS. Fuckwit woman.

DH and I laughed our heads off in the car. And then we sobered ourselves and had an intellectual discussion about why religious food laws existed and What It All Means.

edam Thu 15-Oct-09 18:47:46

way back down the thread, someone pointed out that it's a good lesson to learn that adults sometimes get things wrong and that we can cope with realising we are wrong.

Franbles Thu 15-Oct-09 18:41:40

The teacher definitely needs telling. Children get confused when people lie to them, even if it is inadvertant. Teachers can't know everything, which is why you should make sure he/she knows.

pofacedandproud Thu 15-Oct-09 18:17:27

[i was joking btw, before I incur the wrath of the biologists grin ]

pofacedandproud Thu 15-Oct-09 17:50:35

I watched a documentary about string theory. And one about parallel universes. And I concluded that those scientists are smoking too much skunk.

edam Thu 15-Oct-09 17:48:19

overthemill shock

I once bumped into a physicist at a party and tried to get him to explain superstring theory. Eventually it seemed to make sense... but next morning when I'd sobered up I was none the wiser!

puddock Thu 15-Oct-09 16:26:16

ITA with pofaced.
But remember, "the spiders ... are not insects ... but in a war they will side with the insects".

stillstanding Thu 15-Oct-09 14:34:58

[Goes away to google string theory]

This has been a most educational thread wink

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