to think shame on the Science Museum for agreeing to create products for boys only

(44 Posts)
slightlysoupstained Sun 17-Mar-13 22:31:05

www.johnlewis.com/search/john-lewis-science-museum-collection?_requestid=8082038#article-grid

Lovely idea, but making them ONLY for boys is beyond oblivious, and well into obnoxious territory.

thezebrawearspurple Sun 17-Mar-13 23:51:32

It just seems silly, I rarely buy anything pink for dd and prefer a wide variety from 'girly' pretty to 'boyish' tomboy, the boys and girls sections are next to each other so why would you put the same items in each section? People can freely browse between both and pick what they like.

Growlithe Sun 17-Mar-13 23:50:42

Well, perhaps after all my efforts to enrich her life in other ways, because I've provided her with Hello Kitty pyjamas all she will want to do with her life is walk around with a red bow placed jauntily around one ear.

What have I done? shock All that wasted money going to science museums at weekends, paying for music lessons (and buying instruments), taking her to swimming lessons for years, as well as all the thing she took up and dropped.

All I had to do was walk to the boys section on JL to buy her PJs. TBH I wouldn't pay over a fiver for a pair of PJs.

DD isn't going to get on in life, and it's all my fault, because of the PJs. shock

IneedAsockamnesty Sun 17-Mar-13 23:50:17

Have you not got anything better to winge about?

If you want tour child to wear any clothes as opposed to just ones aimed at boys/girls then that's what you buy them,its not that hard.

MidniteScribbler Sun 17-Mar-13 23:42:21

Do your children like the same things your liked as a child? Or are they allowed to be individuals with their own interests?

If you want dinosaurs and diggers, then go to the boys section. It doesn't seem like rocket science to me (boom tish!).

whethergirl Sun 17-Mar-13 23:41:16

But this happens all the time - and more so with things aimed at girls. Craft sets for example - mostly in pink boxes with a couple of girls on the box.

MaryMotherOfCheeses Sun 17-Mar-13 23:40:46

It is grossly unfair to deprive girls of cool pyjamas.

Is there a charity which could help the unfortunate victims of their parents' neglect?

slightlysoupstained Sun 17-Mar-13 23:36:30

Basically it annoys me that anything I happened to like as a child (dinosaurs, diggers, spaceships, steam engines, aeroplanes) seems to be in the boys' section. Which makes me suspicious that I might have been unfairly deprived of cool pyjamas when growing up. envy

Growlithe - I don't think you're taking this seriously enough, the wrong pyjamas could have very severe consequences. It's no joking matter.

MidniteScribbler Sun 17-Mar-13 23:32:31

Are you equally as offended by pink and purple PJs only being the girls section?

Growlithe Sun 17-Mar-13 23:28:19

Thinking about it, DD (9) plays cello and guitar, and is an excellent swimmer, as well as being into science. She is currently in bed in a pair of Hello Kitty Pyjamas because they were on offer in ASDA. Have I ruined her life? shock

slightlysoupstained Sun 17-Mar-13 23:25:19

"You did sound a bit bonkers. TBH. But I get your point now. "
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Yeah, reading back I admit I was clear as mud. Sorry.

It's not unknown for stores to shelve an item in multiple locations, if they think it fits there - they could have put the jimjams in both boys' and girls' sections. Unless there is some weird and arcane John Lewis Rule that I don't know about.

" Someone made a conscious choice that these should be labelled, shelved, and sold as boys' clothes."

Yes, but probably the people doing the labelling, shelving and selling (i.e. the staff at the physical John Lewis store) and not the Science Museum upon whom you are heaping shame in your OP...

And they don't just "come up under searches" for girls, they are categorised under Home Page > Baby & Child > Girlswear > Nightwear. So JL online have "made the choice" to list them in the girls category as well as the boys' category. And they are photographed on a fairly unisex child (if I had to guess I'd plump for boy, I suppose, but it could easily be a girl).

I do think it's a significant issue, but it's not a significant issue online. If they are shelved in one area only in the store then that's inappropriate, but you're distracting from that by complaining about the SM and how products are catalogued online.

MaryMotherOfCheeses Sun 17-Mar-13 23:18:39

Contact JL and point out that the PJs could brilliantly be in a section between the girls and the boys. It could boost sales so not a bad point to make.

Growlithe Sun 17-Mar-13 23:18:12

What is the 'event' in this case though? I mean, did Einstein have science themed pyjamas?

MaryMotherOfCheeses Sun 17-Mar-13 23:17:20

But the OP was about one single event.

You did sound a bit bonkers. TBH. But I get your point now.

Problem is that the stores don't do unisex clothing sections. They either have to be male or female. At any age.

I've been known to browse the men's section if I want a plain jumper.

slightlysoupstained Sun 17-Mar-13 23:14:24

Permanentlyexhausted
"[...]how should they have made them more relevant for girls? By making them pink??"

By shelving some of them in the girls' section in the store. I'm not a big fan of pink, myself. Never liked it as a kid.

Growlithe - do you really think just one event will put girls off doing A Level Physics? Or do you think maybe I was talking about a pattern of events, where one single event is one of maybe hundreds or thousands of events that all contribute to forming an overall impression?

Growlithe Sun 17-Mar-13 23:12:36

*put off

Growlithe Sun 17-Mar-13 23:11:53

So you are saying girls are put of doing A Level Physics because they can't find science themed pjs in John Lewis? Really? hmm

slightlysoupstained Sun 17-Mar-13 23:02:44

For those saying they're not listed as boys, this is why I said they were:
www.johnlewis.com/john-lewis-science-museum-collection-space-shuttle-pyjamas-red-navy/p383746
Categorised under Home Page > Baby & Child > Boyswear > Nightwear

Good to know they will come up under searches for girls too, but they have made a choice to list them in the boys category. Agree with MaryMotherOfCheeses, JamieAndTheMagicTorch (and poss others) that it's JL's choice.

Are there bigger things to worry about? Yes, certainly. But this contributes to things like www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19603399 and www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2012/oct/05/girls-physics-a-level and tbh if we were to impose a "there must be NOTHING bigger to worry about" rule on AIBU it'd be pretty quiet in here.

thezebrawearspurple Sun 17-Mar-13 22:57:50

There's nothing to stop anyone buying them for girls. If parents don't want frilly, pink, flowery etc...they know to go to the boys section.

Growlithe Sun 17-Mar-13 22:57:01

Sorry for not being right on and everything, but I have a DD who is well into science, loves it at school, wants to be a scientist and develop life saving medicines when she grows up, watches anything sciencey on telly, loves science museums - you get the picture.

But she would not like these pjs. Why would she? I'm a computer programmer by trade but I wouldn't want a load of computer code on my pjs. My pjs don't define me, why should hers?

Permanentlyexhausted Sun 17-Mar-13 22:54:22

Slightlysoupstained - how should they have made them more relevant for girls? By making them pink??

quornqueen Sun 17-Mar-13 22:52:50

I often think shame on Tesco/Sainsburys whilst I am picking the least unsuitable choosing a t-shirt for my son from the 5 or 6 options while oogling the rows and rows of girls clothes.

They are unisex. Same as leggings (which I buy for under jeans) which are always in the girls section.

louisianablue2000 Sun 17-Mar-13 22:51:56

Ah, if in the shops then I see your problem. Of course I am that mother that looks in the boys section for clothes for her girls and as science boffins DH and I would definitely buy a pair of these if we weren't already overrun with pyjamas bought by the grandmothers.

Manchesterhistorygirl Sun 17-Mar-13 22:50:20

Have you actually been in a JL OP. or indeed most shops with children's clothes? Well they are often displayed in gender specific sections, boys and girls if you will. However I you are determined to be a right on parent or indeed have a child who likes pink or blue them you are quite free to go and actually look in that section!

Seriously there are bigger things to actually worry about.

Euphemia Sun 17-Mar-13 22:50:08

I think you need to complain to the particular store.

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