To want people to SHUT UP in the quiet carriage?

(61 Posts)
FallingOver Mon 11-Mar-13 20:58:08

Late night train, almost deserted. Handful of people in the quiet carriage. Silence apart from two people who are chatting at the top of their voices, especially the young woman of the couple, who has regaled the carriage with how drunk she is right now, her 17st friend, what she's studying at Uni, her future career plans - all punctuated by the most asinine and penetrating laugh I have ever heard.

WIBU to go over and tell them to be quiet or else move their v loud conversation to a non-quiet carriage?

Mumsnet jury - you decide.

BookFairy Wed 13-Mar-13 11:35:38

If you book with Virgin online and are allocated Quiet Zone when you don't want it or are travelling with children, you can contact them immediately via their online chat option and change your ticket smile

ceeveebee Wed 13-Mar-13 10:42:58

Think it must be different on differetn lines - this is the sign on south west trains
www.southwesttrains.co.uk/uploads/quietzones.bmp

FallingOver Wed 13-Mar-13 09:47:31

I just checked the rules of the quiet carriage. Apart from electronic devices in silent mode and no making or receiving phone calls, it states:

'If chatting with fellow passengers, please do so quietly and with consideration for others.'

Chattering away at the top of one's voice without a thought of anyone else isn't really on, in my opinion - even if it is the school holidays or half term. It's good for children to learn to be quiet from time to time.

FloatyBeatie Wed 13-Mar-13 09:38:18

I thought that Quiet Carriage just meant "no electronic noises or mobile phone convos". Not "no ordinary conversation"? They were introduced in response to Sony Walkman-type headphone overspill.

I wouldn't feel aggrieved at people chattering, or children doing all the (non-electronic) things that children do.

TheCollieDog Wed 13-Mar-13 09:31:48

I love you, OP.

And for those that say "Sometimes you can't help it." yes, you can. You can move to another carriage. You can READ the signs all over -- including the sign on the outside of the carriage, the carriage door, every second window, that says QUIET ZONE.

Would you rather be thought illiterate or arrogant?

andadietcoke Wed 13-Mar-13 08:00:02

Completely reasonable. A few years ago I was travelling down to London for work with colleagues in a quiet coach. We genuinely didn't realise that conversation should be kept to a minimum and chattered away most of the way. When we got to Euston a lady approached me to tell me exactly that. I was horrified and wished she'd told us on the train rather than sat there seething because we could have moved or just shut up. I still feel bad about that journey!

Anna227 Tue 12-Mar-13 13:02:47

completely reasonable. after all on (my) train there are 9 out of 10 carriages that are not quiet coachs so they have plenty of choice.
I always ask politely for them to be quiet and usually they do.

GetOrf Tue 12-Mar-13 11:25:01

I agree eveho - sometimes it is preferable to sit in a normal carriage and just have the noise all around, rather than sit in the quiet carriage and feeling quietly enraged at the one person listening to happy hardcore or whatever. Less stressful!

GetOrf Tue 12-Mar-13 11:15:57

You can't expect kids to be quiet in the quiet carriage. In school holiday commutes it's a given that children and babies will be in the carriage and all bets are off. They can't help being chattery and noisy - adults can though.

YouTheCat Tue 12-Mar-13 10:14:41

Exactly, Eveho, I'd rather not be in the quiet carriage for the same reason.

Eveho Tue 12-Mar-13 09:50:18

Well sometimes there's no choice but to sit in the quiet carriage!

Possibly Mistress but you always have the choice of keeping it zipped or down to a dull roar for the duration.

Fallingover I want to marry you and have your babies take you with me on every train journey I go on. In fact it has got to the point where I sometimes use the non quiet carriage with all the ipod/mobile phone/loud conversation noise as I find that it irriates me less than sitting in the quiet carriage where it seems there is always SOMEONE who feels that the rules don't apply in their case!

There most certainly should be a Total Silence Carriage

And one on the tube as well. In fact the whole of the London Underground passengers should be forced to travel in total silence.

Can you tell I had a particularly lovely commute this morning?

YouTheCat Tue 12-Mar-13 09:13:33

You know you can change your allotted seating on the train if you book online?

SamuelWestsMistress Tue 12-Mar-13 07:41:34

Well sometimes there's no choice but to sit in the quiet carriage! I booked return tickets for a trip with my 3 kids and when it went through there was no other option because the train was packed!

chutneypig Tue 12-Mar-13 06:56:50

YANBU. It really irritates me. Used to commute so i appreciate people may well be working. Or just want some peace.

I've had reserved seats on the quiet carriage when travelling a while back with my twins, no choice in seats and I was terrified. Three hour journey, three year old twins and they kept conversation to a minimum and whispered. Never happened before or since grin.

I too have had words with someone in the quiet carriage. Was on my way back from a short break with a friend and some plonker started making trivial, loud calls. Hello mate, 'yeah I'm on a train, yeah see ya for a pint maybe...blah blah'. After the third such call in 5 minutes, I got up and said 'in case you hadn't realised, this is the quiet carriage' and pointed to the sign next to him.

He was embarrassed, apologised and then said 'I wondered why you were giving me hmm looks!'

Friend with me was in awe, thought he might have got nasty but I was too irritated to care!

BrittaPerry Tue 12-Mar-13 00:29:45

I keep getting allocated the quiet carriage when I don't want it. You gt a choice of 'quiet' or 'no preference' but sometimes that puts me in quiet anyway. With a 3yo. I end up sitting in the vestibule.

They need a family carriage too - noise ok, but no loud swearing or drunkeness. It could have the baby changing toilet and extra luggage space too. It would be ace.

FallingOver Tue 12-Mar-13 00:08:03

Doh! £500 a year. I'm underselling Mrs Woolf.

FallingOver Mon 11-Mar-13 23:44:52

maryz: 'a room of one's own and £250 a year' (adjusted for inflation)

www.haverford.edu/psych/ddavis/psych214/woolf.room.html

McNewPants2013 Mon 11-Mar-13 23:35:36

Ah right

yanbu

FallingOver Mon 11-Mar-13 23:25:37

It was the woman who was talking about her friend and how heavy (?) he was. Believe me, I'd rather not have been privy to such details.

PurpleBlossom Mon 11-Mar-13 23:00:42

Sorry my link was a bit pants! I had DD asleep on me and didn't want to wake her and only just watched the clip. Thought more of the joke would be shown.

BlauesPferd Mon 11-Mar-13 22:53:04

Caught something about this on the radio yesterday - I don't think the article says, but apparently the train company released a statement saying it wasn't company policy - can't help thinking they might have happier customers if they changed that smile

YouTheCat Mon 11-Mar-13 22:51:30

I have never been on the quiet carriage when it has actually been quiet. I usually avoid them because that irritates me so much.

Last time there was a particularly loud (shouty) child, various people plugged into loud headphones, raucous hen night women. Wasn't worth bothering asking half the carriage to shut up.

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