To think Call the Midwife is too depressing

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jewelledsky Sun 24-Feb-13 20:03:18

for a Sunday night and to almost be tempted by Top Gear as a light viewing alternative? Where is Downton Abbey?

LadyApricot Mon 04-Mar-13 22:08:38

Loved every episode so far and last nights was fantastic. Have not watched an episode without crying yet though!

A fabulous episode yesterday.

BoffinMum Sun 03-Mar-13 15:22:50

We had to put the hospital on alert when I had DC4, as I have been on a lot of opiates during the pregnancy, and there was a risk of depressed respiration in the newborn, which would have required medication pretty urgently. Otherwise I think the feeling is generally that it's better to transfer someone rapidly in the care of paramedics than attempt to faff about with obstetric procedures at home without the proper equipment, etc.

stubbornstains Sun 03-Mar-13 10:46:29

I guess obstetric flying squads really aren't needed any more now that we have fast ambulances and midwives in cars! I just loved the idea, and the name....

By the way, a radical hippy friend of mine did have an ambulance sat outside her house during the whole of her labour....with twins. (There was also a gap of an hour between the 2 births, which apparently is a complete no-no, and her partner spent most of that period comforting the midwife! Mother and both babies were absolutely fine, thankfully).

I loved the uniforms in that episode too. Norman Hartnell. My nurses dressing up set looked a bit like that when I was little.
I really want Sister Bernadette to survive and marry the doctor.

landrover Sat 02-Mar-13 18:31:42

I was highly amused a couple of episodes back when jenny was working in the hospital. A man in a hospital bed was told off for smoking! " you know you are only allowed to smoke during visiting hours!" Ash tray sat on his table, soo amazing how things were!

mrsjay Sat 02-Mar-13 17:58:16

I know im late but I just watched Sundays this afternoon the tears just kept falling I didnt even get any warning sad what a moving episode
I really think CTM is the best thing the BBC has produced in years, I was gripped today and felt drained after watching it <wibble> poor sister Bernadette

AmberLeaf Fri 01-Mar-13 23:51:14

Yes I think the traditional styled flying squads went out ages ago.

LaVolcan Fri 01-Mar-13 23:40:18

I am sure that the old flying squads got disbanded sometime in the 1980s.

I think it varies from locality to locality as to what sort of back up the ambulance service provides these days. I think in some areas the midwives can say they need an ambulance and one will be sent, but in others they have to go through the same procedure as an ordinary member of the general public would. No first hand experience of this - just what I have read.

AmberLeaf Fri 01-Mar-13 19:10:45

No it isn't bollocks or an urban myth.

I didn't say or think that it meant there was an ambulance on stand by at the end of your rd!

That is what the midwife called it, I assume it meant that 'they' would be aware of a homebirth happening should the need for transportation arise.

I know that the old style 'flying squad' of obstetrician etc coming to your home is no more, maybe it is just a term that was still used?

In the event my friend was taken in due to shoulder dystocia and a very large baby. As far as I know it was a regular ambulance and paramedics and the two midwives who were at her home already.

But that was definitely what the midwife referred to it as.

MonthlyHoliday Fri 01-Mar-13 18:55:11

amber leaf I am sure that if you have a home birth even now there is a 'flying squad' on standby! I remember a friend telling me about it when she had a HB about 7-8 years ago.

Sorry that is just bollocks urban myth. The flying squad on stand by is dialling 999 and asking for an ambulance for either mother or baby. This was told to my friend by her home-birth militant friend, that when you have a home birth an ambulance waits on the corner of your street for the entire labour just in case. She booked in for a home birth until the midwife told her that (during giggling) that no dear, there aren't enough ambulances for that. Now working as a midwife she's embarrassed for believing that during her early training!!

LaVolcan Fri 01-Mar-13 17:33:35

I think the USA's maternal mortality rate is poor too - something like 40th on the list of developed countries. What is worse it's probably an underestimate; there is no consistency in reporting deaths between States, so someone could have died from a complication of childbirth, but because the birth was some weeks earlier, it wouldn't go on the form as the cause.

BoffinMum Fri 01-Mar-13 16:27:03

I think that's a good point. There are many vested interests involved in attempting to privatise the NHS through the back door, but you only have to look at the appalling health of the poor in the US, combined with rising infant mortality rates, to see what it would be like not to have a proper health service. They spend a lot more than we do in total but get less for their money collectively. And they bitch about what they call 'socialised medicine'? hmm

Think Staffordshire was bad? Multiply that by about 100 and that is how abysmal healthcare would be for the majority of people who happened to be out of work or ruled out from private insurance because they had pre-existing health conditions.

Don't get me wrong, I think a bit of minor private competition to the NHS is a good thing as it keeps it looking at standards and structures self-critically, but anything more than the most token private sector in this country would make me very concerned indeed.

BangOn Fri 01-Mar-13 16:19:37

i read the first book 3 years ago when dd2 was on the way. could only ever picture Chummy as Miranda Hart at the time.

For those who are saying 'yes but we had the nhs then'. The health service was in its infancy, if you'll excuse the pun. the doctors & midwives were struggling to fix what hundreds of years of private, unregulated 'healthcare' had done to the poor, & obviously, modern medicine still had a long way to go. A hundred & & fify years from now, when no-one living remembers the NHS & our decendents are having families if ten or more because of high infant mortality rates, perhaps some kind soul will come along & reinvent the wheel. that's the most optimistic thought i can contemplate when i think of the future of public services right now.

CinnabarRed Fri 01-Mar-13 14:38:24

I've just finshed reading the Mrs Jenkins chapters of the first book.

It was 1916 that she had the industrial accident that meant that she couldn't support her family any longer.

In 1916 her baby died of starvation, and she had to weigh down his tiny body in an orange box and drop him in the Thames because she couldn't afford a funeral.

In 1916 she took her remaining 5 children to the workhouse. Her three children under 5 years old were separated from the oldest boy (9 years), the oldest girl (10 years) and their mother. She never saw them again.

In 1920 the last of her 5 children died in the workhouse.

Less than a century ago.

ppeatfruit Fri 01-Mar-13 11:42:20

I always remember being shocked by my friend's late Victorian terraced North London house which had no bathroom (just a tin bath which lived under a wooden drainer in their kitchen\scullery. I didn't dare ask her about her toilet shock. This was in the early 60s

AmberLeaf Fri 01-Mar-13 11:41:35

Omg! goes to show how lucky we are these days!

Tansie Fri 01-Mar-13 11:39:24

It would have been until 1977 when my grandad died!

My mums' older sister moved in with her dad in that cottage for 6 months with 2 children, one a baby in (cloth) nappies in 1965, <shudder> grin

AmberLeaf Fri 01-Mar-13 09:49:13

Love how this thread has turned out smile

AmberLeaf Fri 01-Mar-13 09:48:43

Wow Tansie! how long ago was that?

I vaguely remember an outside loo at either my grandparents or great aunts house. I hated using it because of all the spiders or cobwebs at least!

I remember it was converted into a sort of shed once they'd had an 'inside lav' put in.

LaVolcan Fri 01-Mar-13 08:25:13

Tansie you bring back memories too for me, of visiting a friend in the Peak District, early Seventies, living in a house which didn't have mains drainage. The loo was a chemical one in a shed at the end of the garden. I always made sure that I went at home before going to visit her. Urgh! It didn't seem to bother her though, although she now lives in a house with three loos.

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Thu 28-Feb-13 22:58:12

I loved that tansie!smile

Tansie Thu 28-Feb-13 20:59:10

As a child, neither of my grandparents' homes had an indoor bathroom! (Rural Cornwall).

One was a council house where the council converted one of the 3 upstairs bedrooms into a bathroom (ooh! the luxury!) so at night, one didn't have to remember which of the rickety wooden doors out on the patio lead to the loo and which to the coal-shed... but my other grandad lived in an isolated, old, old cottage that had 16th century origins. Thick thatch, cobbles on earth floors and the upstairs floor was cut from the same oak, its lines swooping and buckled along with the growth of the original tree! He had a hand pump to draw water from a well outside til I was 10! A persistent skin rash and a persistent GP who blamed contamination of the ground water forced the council, eventually, to lay on 'mains water' to the house, but he never had 'hot water on tap'! He had 'a scullery' which was half buried in the soil, beyond the 4' cobb walls. It was damp, dank and smelly, so as kids, when we stayed, we'd troop up to his sister's council house up on 'The Green' where she'd charge my mum 50p a bath! grin

That grandad's house had an outhouse down a muddy, dark, country lane, the loo a deep pit filled with Jeyes Fluid, that night-soil men emptied every month! ; the seat a plank of wood with a hole cut in it, a good 20m from the house, (yes, past the coal shed!). As you can imagine, us primary schoolers weren't that keen on grabbing a torch and setting out into the wind and rain lashed pitch black, trees thrashing in the wind all around us, wind howling through the eaves to relieve ourselves in an unlit, spider strewn, chemical fume-house of an outdoor loo, alone at night. So we had porcelain chamber pots.... that smelled the room out by day break! It was such an 'other' experience for us kids I could never understand how, latterly, we'd spend just a day with that grandad then head off 50 miles to spend the rest of the week with the other one, with the bathroom, but, as a mum myself,. now... I get it.

BertieBotts Thu 28-Feb-13 20:49:36

My bathroom is a tiny extension on the back of the house, again tiny Victorian 2 up 2 down here.

NeverKnowinglyUnderstood Thu 28-Feb-13 17:48:23

we went to look at a house last year and the outside loo and washroom (converted coalshed) were connected to the house by some corrogated plastic roofing sheets (no sides) so that you could come and go without getting wet smile
no planning would be given for building it in and there was no room in the tiny 2 up 2 down to add a bathroom anywhere else.

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