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to have expected to feeing much better than this after quitting fags for over 6 weeks?

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Bunfags Fri 15-Feb-13 17:40:21

I quit using champix just before New Year's Eve. Had a sneaky puff a couple of days after, but nothing more since then. I was a vv heavy smoker, 30, 40 rollups a day. Who knows, maybe more sometimes? I used to wake up in the night to continue my smoking habit. blush

I still have terrible cravings. They have been worse over the last few days. I feel really angry and upset. I also feel quite fat. I have not weighed myself because i'm too scared. Suffice to say there's Crimbo and Quitting smoking poundage, so probably 8 to 10 lb. To be frank, the fact that none of my niec clothes fit me properly also makes me very angry.

However, generally I feel upset and angry and miserable and would love a fag. I also have spots and I keep getting a horrid taste of stale tobacco in my throat even though I haven't smoked. I have a sore throat, cough, feel miserable and fat and I have spots. I wish I had never stopped. I took Champix and that made me feel awful. sad I'm seriously considering going to get some baccy, because I was happier and a nicer person as a smoker! Where is all this renewed energy and vitality they go on about? Aren't you supposed to turn into Supeerwoman? I feel like fuckin chuff!

IABU to exected to be feeling better and healthier after 6 weeks without smoking?

minibmw2010 Fri 15-Feb-13 18:48:04

You were (note the past tense smile) a very wavy smoker. It's going to take time and 6 weeks is nothing, keep going. Unfortunately all your illnesses were probably not helped by your past life as a smoker, you'll hopefully have far less prone to those things when your system has cleared out, but that isn't yet unfortunately but it will be soon I'm sure. smile

minibmw2010 Fri 15-Feb-13 18:48:28

'heavy' not 'wavy' ... Duh ... blush

kinkyfuckery Fri 15-Feb-13 18:52:45

Keep at it, you WILL see the benefits. You're doing great!

zookeeper Fri 15-Feb-13 18:53:43

I remember feeling like this when I ave up years ago but it does pass.

I remember thinking that one fag would be nice, but the thousands that would follow it would not make it worth it.

Are you saving the money you would have spent? Could you buy yourself something to cheer yourself up?

Bunfags Fri 15-Feb-13 19:13:02

Lol at 'wavy' smoker, that had me confused there minibmw.

Zoo, it's nice to know that it passes, I smoked rollups, but I did smoke a lot and I'd sometimes buy 10 menthol as a treat. I wish I had calculated it now. But I reckon I've saved around £20 per week.
Maybe I should get a treat soon. Although I'm having building work done, so that's sort of my treat. hmm

Eliphe Fri 15-Feb-13 19:52:26

Bunfags you're doing really well, don't give up now. I quit last June, cold turkey, and found it really hard. If you have an android/iphone there are some great free apps. I downloaded QuitNow and it really kept me going.

9 months down the line, almost all cravings are gone, I very rarely think about fags now, when at the beginning they were all I could think about. It's still difficult if someone is chatting to me with a lit fag though, but this doesn't happen very often. For me, the fear or dying from an unpleasant smoking related disease was beginning to outweigh my need/desire for cigarettes, and I really did love my fags!

Don't bother with E-Cigs, you'll only get addicted to them next, and you've already lasted 6 weeks. It will pass and the cravings will dwindle to almost nothing, promise.

Bunfags Fri 15-Feb-13 19:59:55

Eliphe, Well done for quitting cold turkey style. You are now officially hardcore! I'd rather not try e-cigs, it's better to just break the nicotine addiction. I tried all the gum, patches and lozenges and it took months to quit those.

I had two chest infections within 6 months of each other and there's a family history of lung diseases. I can't go back to the fags.

jinsymaw Fri 15-Feb-13 21:01:53

bunfags, feel your pain! well done you for quitting! I have two daughters, oldest 11, who remind me weekly that I'm going to die!! I have heard that Champix messes with the mind and can cause depression. Advice from Father(Daily Mail lover). Deep breaths when you feel crave, oxygen will give you a high!

It took my poor addled brain a while to sort itself out after 6 weeks of champix. The day i stopped taking it was the day i sobbed solidly for about 6 hours for no reason at all.

Right as rain again after a while though grin

stick at it Bunfags. It really is wonderful being free of smoking. DH and i regularly say how glad we are that we don't smoke any more.

YouOldSlag Fri 15-Feb-13 21:51:53

I quit just under 3 weeks ago and I instantly felt better. I do have a slight cold, but at least I'm not outside under an umbrella smoking a fag in the garden.

A lot of it is about your mindset. I tried will power ages ago and it just made me feel like every day was a massive sacrifice and it made me miserable. The difference this time is that i am really happy to be free of fags and the cravings have definitely gone.

yes...I'm going to say it- the Allen Carr book really worked.

Bunfags Fri 15-Feb-13 22:15:19

Champix eh? Who would have thought something as awesome as a pill that stops you wanting to smoke could have such horrible effects. The nightmares as well!

Everyone bigs up the Allen Carr book YouOldSlag. I have to see it for myself.

HildaOgden Fri 15-Feb-13 22:27:47

Dose yourself up on some multivitamins,and vitamin c in particular.And drink lots of water too.

Well done on all the hard work you've put in so far,the worst is behind you now!

jjuice Fri 15-Feb-13 22:29:42

I smoked for 20 years and stopped using lozenges. I had spots and ulcers for weeks. Huge volcanoes and really sore. I lost my voice, apparently something to do with the hairs growing back in my passages.
I think it took a good few months before I really felt better. But boy did i feel better. I used to run and the difference was amazing.
You are doing ace. Please stick it out. My MIL described giving up as being deprived of something you like and you feel bitter. In a way this never goes. But you do feel way better health wise.

can someone please now explain to me why the hell I started again after 2 years ?

Footface Fri 15-Feb-13 22:33:39

I gave up smoking over three years, and at times I really crave it! I have to think of myself as a smoker who hasn't smoked today. A little bit like an an alcoholic whis been clean for a while.

Once an acholic always an acholic.
Once a smoker always a smoker.

That's not to say it doesn't get easier with time.

Allen Carr is fab, I read all the chapters in one a couple if days bar the last one as I was t quite ready at the time. But once I did its stayed in my head and makes me feel a bit of a fool for ever starting

DumSpiroSpero Fri 15-Feb-13 22:37:17

You've done really well so far.

My mum gave up smoking after over 40 years of 15-20 a day. She went child turkey and complained constantlyof feeling like crap for about 3 months.

Her GP had told her a few months before that he suspected she had early indicators of emphysema & COPD.

6 years later she's still not smoking, and subsequent scans have shown no signs of either so it's realkt worth sticking with it.

Just don't replace the fags with wine gums like my DM did - she may have fended off the respiratory issues but she's been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes!

You are doing really well!

You need to just continue to expel those toxins!
Can you get yourself to work up a sweat a few times per week? Swimming and sauna? Exfoliating cream for face and body? Drink green tea and plenty of water. Go for walks.

DumSpiroSpero Fri 15-Feb-13 22:38:26

Child turkey...wtf?!

Cold turkey.

TheCatIsEatingIt Sat 16-Feb-13 07:55:40

Allen Carr didn't work for me, but if you're happy to PM me your address, you're welcome to it.

IWishIWasSheRa Sat 16-Feb-13 09:40:25

Thank you for the most helpful, honest thread I've ever read on mn!
I need to give up, I am struggling even to cut down and I would love to be 6 weeks down the line!! You've done it well done don't ever go back - you'll have that 6 weeks all over again and I'm praying it gets easier for you! Thanks to other posters for their positive and honest replies!! Ill save this thread!

And change your posting name. You dont want to be reminded of fags every time you post.

I quit smoking back in 1997-98, it was so hard. I was a wreck. I was moody and unstable, coughing, spluttering, my skin broke out in terrible spots. I reached for chocolate hobnobs every time I usually had a fag. Replacing a 40`plus habit with chocolate hobnobs was not a good idea. It counted for more than 4000 extra calories a day! This weight is hard to shift!

If you need to snack, try something healthy. Like grapes, almonds, or just a glass of water....

BillyBollyDandy Sat 16-Feb-13 12:22:11

You are doing so well

I quit 7 years ago, I still dream about fags from time to time!

I went to an nhs clinic thing and they told me 6 months was the dangerous time. People think that they are over it and that they can have "just one" so bear that in mind.

Bunfags Sat 16-Feb-13 13:08:43

PureQuintessence - that's a genius idea. Thanks, I will decide on a suitable name change. smile

Benn Sat 16-Feb-13 14:37:46

Well done to Bunfags and everyone else who is giving up - it's one of the hardest things you can do. But don't give in, just keep at it...

I thought I'd tell you how I did it (with a bit of background) and hope that in some small way it will help.

I started smoking when I was about 11, and I smoked for 25 years, very heavily for most of that. Over the years I tried everything to give up - patches, gum, accupuncture, hypnosis, will power - nothing worked. (I've heard it's a worse addiction than heroin and cocaine!) A health scare made me decide that I had to give up once and for all or I'd be in big trouble. And I decided that I would just use willpower otherwise I'd be addicted to whatever I was using instead. So I gave myself two months, gradually cut down to 7 a day (from 20-30), and then just stopped. It's one of the hardest things I've ever had to do; I had all the same things that everyone else has mentioned, bad skin, colds, chest infections etc, and I did gain about a stone in weight. I knew that if I gave in and had even one smoke, I'd be right back to the beginning and have to go through it all again, and I didn't think I could bear to do that.

Someone mentioned taking a deep breath when you're having a craving because oxygen gives you a natural high - that's right, it does, and just remember that a craving only lasts a couple of minutes - do anything to get through it. Take deep breaths, jump, skip, sing - anything that helps you get through those couple of minutes.

One thing that I did that helped me more than anything is really stupid, and I know it's psychological, but it worked for me. I told myself that I wasn't giving up smoking, and that I was going to smoke again, but not until I am 70 years old. Because every other time I tried to give up and told myself that that was my last cigarette ever, I just panicked and didn't know how I would cope, but knowing that in the future, if I wanted to have one then I could, was liberating.

Four years on and I'm so glad that I stuck at it and I'm really proud of myself - I never thought I'd do it. I do still fancy a smoke now and again but I'll just have to hang on til I'm 70!

Anyway, I'm sorry to go on. Good luck, hang in there, you'll get over this and be glad you did. Everyone is rooting for you.

ErikNorseman Sat 16-Feb-13 15:16:08

Try the Allen Carr book. It will help with the core belief that smoking is desirable and that cravings are hard. It's suitable for anyone who wants to change their beliefs about smoking, even those who have stopped already.
I felt miserable for ages afterwards, and very ill for months. Now, however, I hardly get ill but it did take about 6 months to feel better.

IfNotNowThenWhen Sat 16-Feb-13 15:26:06

I stopped with Allen Carr, and was so relieved to have stopped. I didn't have cravings after the first 3 weeks, and my skin was better, but I wasn't a heavy smoker, although I smoked for YEARS.
Also, hangovers were only a fraction as bad. I realised that because I binge smoked when drinking, that my hangover was mainly a fag hangover.
I don't agree with the "once a smoker" statement. That's so depressing. The minute you quite you became a non-smoker.

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