Do you think there is a "Polish" problem in the Uk now that it's become the 2nd language in England?

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NomadsLand Thu 31-Jan-13 20:48:52

I've been to Poland and I like Poles a lot as a people. I think Warsaw is a great city and I have nothing against Polish people.

My mother complained back in 2007 about the number of Poles in Liverpool changing the 'culture'. What she meant was that she loves to banter with people in shops and restaurants and she used to get a lot of chat back (Liverpudlians are generally very funny - IMHO - and love a bit of verbal 'how's your father'). She complained that this had changed and that she was increasingly met with blank stares. This is high insult to my mother!

I didn't think much of it. But I am now finding the same - I approached a new restaurant outlet at my local services today and joked about them selling hot dogs and milkshakes and what a welcome addition to the usual (was hungry and about to make an irresponsible food choice!). I got the same blank stare. Didn't understand a word I said.

I finally understood what my mother has been saying. AIBU?

LineRunner Sat 02-Feb-13 00:34:45

Pan reported Hully on a thread and unfortunately he made his reporting public.

The thread was in FWR and already infested with MRA trolls. They then probably just jumped on the reporting bandwagon and the rest, as they say, is hysteria.

GothAnneGeddes Sat 02-Feb-13 00:23:05

Uppa - I wouldn't say I've segregated myself.

The area I live in is very, very mixed, Liverpool is considerably less so. L8 still has by far the highest number of ethnic minority communities.

Nope, right thread, but a bit out of context now.
I just hate goading. Naught wrong with a bit of exaggeration for dramatic effect to make a point, but to keep needling people when they are already het up... urgh. Hate it when the darling offspring do it, and hate it on here. Still luff MN bigtime otherwise though grin.

... And on a different thread? Yes, me too. Tbh im finding mn strange at the moment with plenty of previously 'normal' posters going odd. But I'm clinging to mn as in general I love it here and I fear change

Oh sorry, just ignore me, I ment to post that about 2 hours ago blush.

I thought Pan was a Good Guy... sad

feministefatale Fri 01-Feb-13 19:30:05

I could just about accept it, if they were drinking proper beer grin

feministefatale Fri 01-Feb-13 19:29:16

Oh god, sweaty men drinking hot beer. What is the world coming to?

Uppatreecuppatea Fri 01-Feb-13 19:26:52

GothAnneGeddes - I suppose that proves the point about Ghetto-isation and people moving to where they feel most 'at home'.

I know that Brits who move to Spain or France, for example, prefer to live in areas with lots of expats. It's normal.

I hope you'll be happy in Birmingham - it's a great city with so many fab restaurants. I love Brindley Place!

blush Wrath

Men in sauna here. That is how Finish Culture is our downfall

WorraLiberty Fri 01-Feb-13 19:17:59

But before I unleash the Wreath of Worra, I should say I was joking.

I haven't got a wreath yet honest shock

Other than that, I have no idea what you're talking about.

GothAnneGeddes Fri 01-Feb-13 19:10:49

O.P is proving why as one of "those Muslims", I was so happy to leave Liverpool and move to Birmingham.

Liverpool likes to think it's multicultural, but it's still very segregated and there is a lot of racism there.

Pagwatch Fri 01-Feb-13 19:01:38

I have started a thread for her safe return

Uppatreecuppatea Fri 01-Feb-13 19:01:26

I think large groups of migrants change the nature of the country in which they live by the very force of their presence. This is a natural consequence of mass migration. The fact is, large cities in the UK now experience 'ghettoisation" where migrant nationalities tend to group together for the sake of familiarity of language and culture: from this, specialist shops and services spring up (mosques, halal butchers, afro-caribbean hairdressers, Polish specialist foods etc). It's natural.

Many people have brought up the example of Spain or France. Both good examples but the basic culture is very similar in terms of belief systems. Language is obviously an issue and I think it's up to the migrant to try and assimilate by learning some of the language.

I have visited Dubai a few times and that is one place where I can clearly see that the mass influx of Brits (amongst others) HAS changed the culture. The shopping malls now post signs asking people to dress modestly. I see Brits walking around the malls in mini-skirts and boob tubes juxtaposed against the Emirati women wearing abayas and veils and I wonder what on earth they must think has happened to their country. Emiratis account for only 17% of the population of the UAE (Dubai, Abu Dhabi etc) and that must be pretty scary for them.

I think it's blinkered to think that the influx of groups of migrants doesn't change the local culture. It simply does. Whether it's a good or a bad thing is just a matter of opinion.

Hully banned rally?

We are talking Hullygully? The hully who has a dog named after her?
WTF??????????? shock

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

FairyJen Fri 01-Feb-13 18:57:02

I've obviously missed something epic here. This is the end of mumsnet a we know it

I have no idea whats gone down here.

But before I unleash the Wreath of Worra, I should say I was joking.

TuftyFinch Fri 01-Feb-13 18:55:04

What's going on? I've been not here.

Kveta Fri 01-Feb-13 18:54:45

I came here to defend eastern Europeans as I am currently bfing my half Czech DD to sleep, but hully banned?! Wtf?!

Pagwatch Fri 01-Feb-13 18:54:39

[sigh] me too.

It's just immensely frustrating.

The absoloutely wastes of space are still here, trying to wind mners up. Hully gets banned.

I just ignore them. They are nothing. But they upset people on issues deeply felt.
It's very annoying.

FairyJen Fri 01-Feb-13 18:53:36

What Fred getorf. What the actual fuck has happend?? They can't ban hully it's not allowed

They cant have banned Hully.

She was snogging Justine two years ago at the Christmas meet. And danced with Helen.

We need to get her back.

We should all flounce until Hully is back.

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