To think positive promotion of BME imagery in local authorities is misplaced

(111 Posts)
wantanewname Mon 28-Jan-13 12:24:56

Local authorities seem to have a policy whereby photos promoting e.g. a school, museum etc have to if possible have at least one BME (black and ethnic minority) person in the photo.

Now, I can totally understand this if for example the local authority is e.g. trying to increase literacy levels in children and finds that literacy levels amongst some BME groups is lower than amongst e.g white groups and therefore uses a photo of a black child in a library. This I can understand. What I find hard to understand is the idea that this applies across the board. For example, does it do any good when a local authority is photographing a school in a very white area to use the few black pupils in every photo? I think in that instance it is patronising to the public - implying that their knowledge of the school/area is wrong and creates a warped view that there isn't a lack of diversity that needs to be addressed in certain areas when there actually is.

Or is there something I'm missing? I notice this in local authority literature all the time and think that they are actually creating more problems with their attempts at diversity? It annoys me because it doesn't seem well thought out...just wondered what other people think about this?

kim147 Mon 28-Jan-13 23:59:07

So you're saying you don't want "over representation" of diversity in an area where there is not much diversity - and you feel that the majority groups feel marginalised at the expense of diverse groups?

Look at normal TV output and newspaper coverage for a week and see what groups are represented and how they are represented.

I'll think you'll find white, middle class,married couples to be well represented in mainstream media.

It's important to get those diverse groups involved and to be seen "by all" as hidden groups not worthy of being included. It's a fine balance to be struck.

But you ask yourself what images are thrown up everyday, how many different groups are shown and what the common messages are. I think it would be interesting.

You might be interested in this - it's a BBC report showing how women are reported and shown in the media.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20554942

Yes but you have to look to see where the fuel is coming from Married - Tory backed papers spouting half-truths and mis-information about immigration. These papers may be bought by the working classes, but they aren't written or owned by them.

AmberLeaf Tue 29-Jan-13 00:44:27

Marriedinwhite

Hang on? your husband is working class from leeds? yet in your previous posts he was one half of a middle class married couple?

So you as a couple were represented in that booklet full of working class folk then?

Valdeeves Tue 29-Jan-13 07:19:55

I haven't read all this sorry as little time but just wanted to add:
I'm white British but my children are not.
We live in a predominantly white British area.
They are the invisible ethics mentioned before!
I find all the publicity related to children completely white British. No problem with that but it doesn't include us in the way it could, I suppose it would seem like tokenism - but for me it would be inclusion.

theplodder Tue 29-Jan-13 07:41:36

The local authorities are just trying to show you the future they have in store for you.

SolomanDaisy Tue 29-Jan-13 07:55:27

Been reading BNP leaflets there plodder?

gordyslovesheep Tue 29-Jan-13 09:28:44

Oh good a future with less people like plodder? Bring it on!

specialsubject Tue 29-Jan-13 09:34:39

I remember being annoyed as a kid that the families on the boxes for games where all blonde. (and of course all white). I am white, but not blonde. Just did a spot of research and this does appear to have changed - far fewer photographic boxes but where they are, couldn't find one blonde and there were some black faces too. So there is progress.

Just watch any news article about engineering and they will always interview a female engineer. She will be one of very few, if not the only one in the place. Thirty years of effort hasn't changed that which is a shame, and I think it IS patronising always to call on the 'token' if there is one. But if there isn't - just show the people who are in the place concerned. The mix is what it is!

one day we will hopefully not even notice.

Pendeen Tue 29-Jan-13 14:27:09

gordy... if you read what I actually wrote you will see that, from my perspective yes the picture would quite obviously seem odd.

gordyslovesheep Tue 29-Jan-13 14:44:27

Oh I got your point ...there are no black people in Cornwall hmm

Pendeen Tue 29-Jan-13 23:15:18

Oddly enough, although that was not my point and - in absolute terms you are wrong - there is a grain of truth in what you say if you look at the demographics of my county in a little more detail. You may begin to understand that the UK outside the large cities is a very different place from what you )may) have been led to believe.

It would be quite interesting to meet you and compare your and my experiences over the past 30 years.

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