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yanbu

ridiculous to do it so yound when they are still learning ze anglais!

anyway, should be russian, spanish or mandarin ideally if they are really pushing it

get em into those BRIC economies I say !!!

fromparistoberlin Fri 25-Jan-13 12:15:04
"yanbu

ridiculous to do it so yound when they are still learning ze anglais!

anyway, should be russian, spanish or mandarin ideally if they are really pushing it

get em into those BRIC economies I say !!! "

Have you any idea how long it takes to learn Mandarin to the point where you can actually use it in a work context? And how difficult it is to find qualified teachers?

Russian also quite a bit more difficult than either French or Spanish.

Also, a reception-age child needs help at home. How many of the pupils have parents who can comprehend and help with Latin cases, never mind Russian ones? Hey?

But hey, all languages must present the same amount of difficulty for English native speakers. Obviously. I mean, they're all foreign and all foreigners are the same, ain't they?

The above is extreme sarcasm, by the way.

Are you sure they are not having a french based topic week at school?

My 4 year old is in reception class and he is a great reader and loves learning.

I have started teaching him french basics at home and he is great doing that with me

Stealth boast alert

..without the stealth!!

YABU - I have a 4 y/o ds and am training to be a primary school teacher specialising in MFL (specifically French!). Research shows that learning a foreign language reinforces the learning of English (amongst other languages).

My ds' school doesn't introduce languages until aged 7, which I'm a bit gutted about tbh so I do it with him at home. We read his favourite stories in French (3 little pigs) and talk about the Eiffel Tower etc. The key is making it fun for the child, and tap into their interests (my ds is really into his 'towers' atm so talking about the Eiffel Tower is fun for him).

I have experience of working in a Welsh school and there is a big push for children to be bilingual. It is really fantastic how they build the Welsh into the day, so the register is called in Welsh (and a child calls it), they will be told to tidy up in Welsh, and it is generally built into the day around a brief lesson. The key is for an integrative approach, putting the language into context.

Oh and btw my ds is having speech and language therapy at the moment as his English is quite behind, originally I held off introducing another language to him for this reason. But after delving into it for my course, I found this could actually help him. And his pronunciation of French is far better than his pronunciation of English

cory (a) I was taking the piss
and (b) Spanish then

what use is French? and I say this as someone fluent in French and with a French degree. Russian would be far more useful in business

Wouldn't that rather depend on who you are doing business with. Still not really relevant to OP's 4-year-old.

OP, can you say a bit more about why he is getting so upset? I thought teachers generally tried to make things fun in reception.

i dont see why they should have any "lessons" at 4 yrs old?i thought it was all learning through play in reception?

Fromparistoberlin - I think French is useful as it is the nearest neighbour to the UK and therefore children may get more opportunities to practice their French skills and understand a different culture.
It is also spoken extensively worldwide - being the official language in 29 countries including places in Canada, North Africa, Latin America, the Caribbean and Africa.
It is also the official first language and official second language of international organisations including the European Union, Council of Europe, MSF, United Nations, Court of Human Rights, FIFA, the European Space Agency, the UPU, the Red Cross, Amnesty International and the African Union.
As it is a latin based language - ability to understand the basics of French opens up other language skills for example Spanish and Italian.
Further the emphasis on grammar and latin that is necesary to master French also helps with scientific study and understanding the English language.

No such thing as 'too much French'. Any language learned is a very good thing.

Parlez-vous Francais, OP?

Fenix made the points I wanted to make. Language is never a bad thing to learn.

Although if he's really not enjoying it at all, perhaps you should investigate the teaching methods a little further.

tres bien pepper!

I wish our school would teach French from reception. YABU.

merci bien paris

French is very useful in that it is still spoken worldwide, not only in former French colonies, but also as a language that many foreigners will have been taught as their second or third language at school. I have found French and German useful for communicating with people from the former Eastern block who do not necessarily have good English.

I have also found it very useful for an academic career as much research is published in French (and German).

Totally YABU

DP and I are Greek, live in France and don't want DD to miss out on learning English when young (the only time when it's easy for someone to pick up a language) so she's growing up trilingual. My only concern is that we are late with her Mandarine!