That this new film The Impossible leaves a nasty taste in my mouth?(60 Posts)
Ive just seen a trailer for this. Its about the 2004 tsunami.
About a blonde haired, white family, caught in the disaster, and their fight for survival.
I have then loked at the reviews. Here are a few snippets:
When not fully engrossed in our characters' plights and emotionally tied to their survival, we are thoroughly repulsed by the graphic scenes of bodily destruction that blood soak the screen. Director J.A. Bayona is no stranger to horrific make-up effects as he was the genius behind the camera for The Orphanage (2007) and he pulls no punches here. Some audience members were seen turning their heads unable to ingest the graphic nature of effects and few were even seen exiting while the scenes played out in long detail.
The downsides; there's something a little off-putting about choosing a white, privileged family as a focus, while at the same time showing almost exclusively other white people as suffering and afraid in a disaster that killed far more local people than tourists. The Thai's are certainly shown in a good light, kindly helping all these suffering whites, but even in the hospital, almost every face we see in a bed is a white one. That hint of odd racial insensitivity is also underlined by replacing the original family, who were Spanish and dark, and making them into a gorgeous blond English family, a telling choice in a 'true' story.
The film pretends to be about "universal goodwill", about how "tragedy brings people together". It's also relentlessly dehumanising. People do not matter unless they're white, the film filled with white victims and the white dispossessed. Local characters are either invisible or reduced to a couple rescue units at the bidding of white sufferers. Whilst many have complained that our foregrounded characters are white, that's not really the problem. The problem's that background characters are likewise. The fact that the vast majority of the dead, injured and displaced were Asian never registers. This has an interesting effect. In the way the film panders to white audiences whilst pretending to be about the universality of suffering, it's message becomes, unconsciously, that whites don't care about non-whites and target audiences identify only with their own. It's not economically feasible to cater to the Other. Of course it's fitting that a film about universal goodwill largely ignores the suffering of non-white characters. The real life event hinged on a similar social dismissal. A film about the plight of wealthy, vacationing Westerners which turns a blind eye to the deaths of thousands of locals perfectly sums up the lesson of the tsunami itself; they don't matter.
I think it's rather bizarre to think cinemas should just be for escapism. There have always been hard-hitting films, both fictional and based on real events, at the cinema.
Of course I totally get that some people would choose not to see such things, that is there choice.
But to think that cinemas shouldn't show such things is bizarre. Cinema should be able to be about more than entertainment. It should also be educational, it should be thought-provoking, it should be emotional.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy being taken to middle earth and seeing the goings on at Hogwarts too. But if I had a choice to only watch that type of thing, or only watch film/docu-drama etc that gives a real insight into real events and real human experience, I'd choose the latter.
Haven't seen the film but while I can understand the film-makers making the protagonists white with blonde hair to (they imagine) increase the potential audience, it seems surprising that 'even in the hospital, almost every face we see in a bed is a white one'.
i've seen the film and i didn't think it was very good.
If it's entirely factual then the family don't come across as being very nice. They're super rich and hire a private jet to escape - and don't help anyone else.
I have also seen the trailer of the film in a 12a cinema showing with a ten year old child.
My personal thought is it is far too soon to be making films which show graphic images as such when it is only 8 or so years ago it happened and so many people will be trying to overcome their grief.
But I say that as someone who had contact with a family who lost their toddler boy when they survived so I guess I find it hard to be objective.
Personally I feel a bit sick that this has been made into a film. I think it is too soon. When the ad came on tv on boxing day (ffs) me and dp both shouted at the tv.
Titanic was pretty racist, anyone with a English accent was a nasty first class pasenger, anyone displaying compassion was Welsh/Irish/Spanish. Even Kates accent morphed from Home Counties to American as soon as she copped off with Leo.
The family feature in the film are real and they wanted to tell their story, it is a truly heartening story of what happened to them and people around them. I heard the parents interview on radio 4 and they sounded very heartfelt and traumatised by it, as anyone would be.
Just because they are white, rich and could hire a private jet home does not make their story any less valid to be told. They have gone on since to do a huge amount of work with the people from the area they were staying.
So according to some of you because they were white and wealthy what happend to them is irrelevant and they are 'not nice people' - how utterly depressing that humanity can think and say this. Post like these make me hate MN.
I think it is too soon to have a film of this tbh.
i don't think it's too soon at all. What does that matter? The whole thing was captured on film and millions of people have seen it.
OP YANBU. I was shocked a film had been made of it. I was distressed enough watching the news footage in 2004.
It serves no purpose apart from to make money and wring emotions out of paying customers.
I recently read an interview with David Attenborough who spoke about his brother Richard Attenborough. He said since Richard lost his daughter and granddaughter in the Tsunami, he hasn't been the same person. It brought tears to my eyes.
Some films should be left unmade.
How is it different to other disaster movies based on real life? Alive, for instance?
What does it matter?!
Personal videos on Youtube can hardly be compared to a movie shown in the cinema for 'entertainment'.
It's an interesting one. I feel very sorry for those who are traumatised by having been there and who have gone to the cinema and seen this ad and been distressed. It does feel tasteless. But far fewer people would watch if it was about an Asian family (sadly) and I do think it's good to be reminded about it and how dreadful it was, if only to inspire people to donate to help areas still affected, or stop for a moment to appreciate what they have.
There was a (as I remember it) very tasteful tv drama about it all in 2006, so really not soon after (here) and I really was glad to watch it because it helped me grasp a little bit more just how horrendous it was. These things are so easily forgotten. I'm not going to go and see this film; far too upsetting. But I'm glad that it being out has made me stop and think and remember.
People who dont want to see the movie can choose not to.
Movies are made about real-life disasters all the time.
How can people say it's too soon?
When is the exact time that it wouldn't be too soon?
Next year? 2023? 2053?
And I think the Schindler's List question was a good one. Do the people who find The Impossible offensive find Schindler's list offensive too?
Both are true. Both are based on real people (Oskar Schindler/real Spanish family). Both show death.
I've never seen Shindler's list or titanic.
Shindler' s list at home on TV, where no one can see me cry, I think might be very interesting.
The morbid fascination with the Titanic I find disturbing.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds the whole idea of Titanic awful, Startail. I saw part of 'A Night to Remember' on TV when I was a child and it traumatised me, watching people die, knowing that actually happened to real people, is NOT entertainment to me.
I've managed to miss ads for this film and had no idea what it was about - so thanks for this thread because now I know to avoid it!
Just a few clarifications. Firstly in the OP, the family in the movie are Australian living in Japan and vacationing in Thailand. Secondly they didnt hire a private jet to escape, the plane was provided by the Zurich the insurance company to rapatriate the family to Singapore for medical treatment. This is what you have holiday insurance for. All this is quite clear to anyone who has actually seen the movie. Thirdly not all the faces in the hospital are white by any stretch of the imagination. Yes I have seen the movie. IMVHO it is not gratuitous just for entertainment but went someway to explaining the unspeakable horrors that no person should ever have to live through. By watching the film I can quite understand the poster who talks about the changes in her sister that people do not understand, the horror and enormity are beyond any the comprehension of any normal person. I have holidayed in both Thailand and SriLanka since that tsunami. I have nothing but good things to say about the people who live in those countries, their kindness and compassion to others has always been legendary. Incidentally I have just asked my Philipina helper (we live in the middle east) how she feels about the film and she was not unhappy at the western family. And additionally she tells me that similar films have been made within the Asian film industry!
My thoughts on the movie, it was very harrowing, it made both Ds (17) and myself cry for not just the family but for everyone who was affected, the whole enormous tragedy. What lacked for me was any information about how much progress and what actions have been taken with regard to future tsunamis. All those islands and countries now have tsunami warning systems which work very well. During the Easter vacation this year there was a tsunami warning whilst we were in Sri Lanka, fortunately it came to nothing but the knowledge that everyone locals and tourists had time to prepare to escape was welcome.
Well I think it's a good thing... my now ex dh was there at the time and he thinks it's good they are making a film as even now so many people mistakenly think it was just a big wave ! They just don't get how huge and terrifying it was.. people have said stupid things like why didn't so and so run etc.
I have an interest in tsunami and the weather and have studied the tsunami of 2004 and the film seems quite true to what happened. And sensitively handled. I don't see what having a white family has to do with anything. They chose a real story. That's all.
I think it would have been nice if they had given some of the proceeds to some of the charities still helping people maybe they are, I have no idea to be fair.
I also thinkelse ewan McGregor is very ccharity minded so I can't see him doing a gratuitous film just for the sake of it. Again I might be wrong but it doesn't seem to fit.
We had films coming out about 9/11 about the same time distance as the tsunami and this film. Films have the power to educate and share experiences. Good and bad.
It is true that they do have good plans in place in the event of another tsunami. However anyone that knows someone personally who has been there or who understands about the speed and power of a mega tsunami knows that these are more to appease tourists to keep tourism alive. As if a 100 foot wave tore towards the beach with the speed that it did you would not have the chance to make it halfwAy to a concrete platform even if they did get a warning out in time. What if you were asleep in one of the beach hotels at the time ? The sirens are not that loud. ex Dh (dds dad) has been back since.
The best thing to be aware of is a receding tide line and fish on the beach (dead but recently alive or actually alive). And birds flying in the other direction. People saw all these signs and didn't understand them.
I would like to see the film.
I don't find the concept of the film offensive but as someone who has spent the last 5 summers in Galle, Sri Lanka, I think it should include the hardship and loss that people are still experiencing. Not only are there roadside graves everywhere and shells that were once people's homes but it is little known that the corporate hotel industry are buying huge swathes of this land from the government (who are not investing it in housing for the homeless) meaning people cannot even rebuild their homes. I have not encountered many families who have not been affected in this area, lost homes, businesses, parents, children and friends. By all means show a tragic western plot story but at the very least, some of the huge box office profits surely, morally, belong to ALL of those affected around the world.
excellent post theodora. Very interesting to hear how it's still affecting people. The responsible thing to do would be for the film makers to donate a big chunk of profits to regeneration programmes.
I have massive problems with a disaster that affected millions of people, most of whom weren't white being turned in to a story about a rich, white family. There is no shortage of films about rich white people, it's pretty much Hollywood's stock in trade.
If you need someone to be of the same ethnicity and socio-economic status to relate to them, then you have issues and the film industry should not be pandering to your narrow mind.
I think the whole concept is pretty fucking vile.
DH said pretty much what Bisjo said when I mentioned it to him - 'I think the tv trailers and release date are incredibly crass and insensitive'
I would say that in Galle it is getting worse. Aid has stopped and the news doesn't report on the corruption. They are silent victims now.
There was a Titanic film released 29 days after it sank and there are still films made after the 1997 one.
I read this post, and then I saw the film last night so I wanted to bump this.
Just to say, if Im honest, I probably wouldnt have gone to see a Thai language or even, truthfully, a Spanish language version. So Im glad they did make The Impossible, as I have been tearily remembering all of the victims today. I very much hope that some cash gets back to the Thai victims.
This is a quote from Maria Belon which beautifully expresses her puzzlement at why it is that the story of a family which was blessed enough to stay alive had their story dramatised, and how she came to understand why it was. "Why our story if we survived? Why in a story full of pain and full of loss pick up our story in which nothing happened? But then we understood that it was the only way of explaining the others' pain was picking up a story of a family which nothing happened to," Belon said.
In other words, we need a flicker of hope in the horror, and yes, its part of human nature to look for our own angle in a tragedy.
Also Belon expressing the casting of blonde, blue eyed actors:.
"I am fed up with this question all the time," Belon said quite strongly. "This movie is not about nationalities, not about races, not about colors. It's about human beings. One of the conditions we put is that there should be no nationality for the family. I don't care if they would be black, brown or green skin. I wouldn't care about anything."
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