AIBU to not at all surprised at things the news are saying about Thatcher?

(35 Posts)
Roasties Fri 28-Dec-12 13:48:13

I'm not surprised

lotsofdogshere Sat 29-Dec-12 09:21:46

I loathed Thatcher and felt the 80's were like Narnia, always winter and never christmas. I was shocked by the Falklands war, but how could she do anything else but respond with military might, to an invasion of British territory, with British citizens who want to remain British. The armed forces involved in defending the Falklands experienced such horrors that many of them continue to suffer psychologically, despite their pride in defending these "shitty little islands".

sashh Sat 29-Dec-12 05:24:16

sorry pressed post too soon

the government changed their citizenship to that of overseas territory

sashh Sat 29-Dec-12 05:22:47

she should never be forgiven for the falklands war. all those lives lost for some shitty little island

You mean those islands she tried to cede to Argentina

www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/armycampaigns/southamerica/falklands/falklandswar.htm

www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/armycampaigns/southamerica/falklands/falklandswar.htm

All those people who live there are British citizens; it is our duty to defend them from invasion.

At the time they were not, the government of the day

SantasHoHoHo Sat 29-Dec-12 00:05:54

All those people who live there are British citizens; it is our duty to defend them from invasion.

Hear hear!

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 29-Dec-12 00:02:17

Well of course there wa an agenda...protecting British subjects.

yohohoho Sat 29-Dec-12 00:01:35

I didn't mean there was an agenda for Argentina. I meant for the war. Typed a bit fast and had as bouncing on my knee and put the wrong word in. blush

Should have Said 'there was an agenda for the war'

threesocksfullofchocs Sat 29-Dec-12 00:01:00

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr and Jux 100% with you

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 29-Dec-12 00:00:53

Exactly Boney. It's not geographically close to automatically fall into being Argentinian territory.

The Falklands were taken from the French by Britain.

BoneyBackJefferson Fri 28-Dec-12 23:58:03

yohohoho

"There was an agenda for Argentina. The agenda was 'we want that island and they tried to take it back, we will show them' which was pretty evident at the time and since."

Tha Falkland Islands have never been part of Argentina.

EldritchCleavage Fri 28-Dec-12 23:49:42

I could never understand, then or now, how so many right-on people decided it was ok to abandon the Falklanders to invasion by a facist junta. Because they were blinded by hatred of Thatche, I suppose. I hated her too, but come on.

Jux Fri 28-Dec-12 19:40:36

My cousin was involved in the Falklands war. It is ignorant and idiotic to say they are shitty little islands and to onfer that the only reason we defended them was some mad idea of Thatcher's. All those people who live there are British citizens; it is our duty to defend them from invasion.

It is one of the few wars which of the late 20th century which was entirely justified.

FrankelcenseAndMyhrr Fri 28-Dec-12 19:14:19

My DH spent 7 months in the Falklands a few years ago (armed forces tour of duty). The islanders are fiercely patriotic and adamant that they wish to be British and not Argentinean. The right to self determination is enshrined in UN law and we are morally obliged to protect our citizens.

Allowing Argentina to take the islands by force would have been a disastrous message to send to other tinpot dictatorships

Horsemad Fri 28-Dec-12 19:07:05

Re the Falklands - it's also about the oil...

Chubfuddler Fri 28-Dec-12 18:59:18

Can't say I've read anything so very dreadful. She found it hard to believe there was a credible argentine threat before the invasion because invading would have been so stupid - with hr there.

As for a saville "link" she knew him. So did lots of people. Big deal.

LeBFG Fri 28-Dec-12 18:55:57

The war was hugely popular at the time. It has certainly been proposed long before now it was at least partly a publicity/distraction stunt....politicians do that sort of thing all the time. So no news there.

Fraid the Savile/Thatcher link get a big whatever from me.

tiggytape Fri 28-Dec-12 18:54:24

mx5 - It wasn't just about defending the islands but freeing the British people who live on them. They desperately wanted British help once their home had been taken by force.

Hundreds (probably thousands) of people are 'linked' to Jimmy Saville in one way or another via a lot of the charitable work of that time. He was a key figure in many fundraising and cahritable events of the era so anyone else contributing to or dealing with charities may be seen to have links with him. That doesn't mean they are linked to anythign else.

AllSnowballsAndNoKnickers Fri 28-Dec-12 18:53:22

Can't beat a 'Thatcher' thread for bringing out the frothing ill-informed loons grin

nancy75 Fri 28-Dec-12 18:51:29

Mx5, if you lived on those shitty little islands you would rather pleased they weren't just given to Argentina I would imagine?

Uppermid Fri 28-Dec-12 18:50:08

Shitty little island?! Really. What about the people who live there? I think they were (and still are) incredibly grateful.

This reminds of the time a friend said they couldn't see the poi t of the armed forces ......

MsElleTow Fri 28-Dec-12 18:48:11

mx5 "some shitty little island!"hmm.

For a start The Falkland Islands are more than one island, they are not shitty and more importantly the people who live there are British!

YuleBritannia Fri 28-Dec-12 18:46:47

mx5hairdresser

Your comment shows how little you know about the islands.

MrsBW Fri 28-Dec-12 18:46:23

And back on topic.... Link? What's been said?

Alisvolatpropiis Fri 28-Dec-12 18:45:54

Er just because she knew Jimmy Saville doesn't mean she knew he was a paedophile hmm

I think the Argentine agenda was quite real as well.

MrsBW Fri 28-Dec-12 18:45:53

mx5 huh????????????

mx5hairdresser Fri 28-Dec-12 18:45:00

she should never be forgiven for the falklands war. all those lives lost for some shitty little island

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