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Ds has non IgE allergy to 'dairy' and soya. Goats milk?

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ImNotAnsweringIt Mon 06-Feb-12 07:12:53

The diagnosis was made by a paed dietician, by me eliminating things from my diet while ebf. It was based on his symptoms, none of which were dramatic. However, he had never had these substances other than via breastmilk so I presume he could have a much stronger reaction with a stronger hit of say, cows milk.

My question this time is, can I try him on goats milk? So many people have suggested this (non hcps) and I have introduced it into my diet first to see how he reacts. Problem is his sleep has always been hit and miss, and other symptoms can easily be a cold or teething.

I'd be so pleased if I could supplement his diet with goats milk but how do check? Thanks in advance.

Clara35 Mon 06-Feb-12 07:36:14

I think goats milk is too similar to cows milk so we were told not to try it. Oat milk (oatly) is the alternative we have always used & they do a calcium enriched one.

ImNotAnsweringIt Mon 06-Feb-12 08:04:43

Thanks for the reply. That's interesting to know. I use oatly but have been worried it isn't enough (he is still bf too). That's ok though, I won't risk it!

freefrommum Mon 06-Feb-12 08:52:18

Clara35 is right, most children allergic to cow's milk will also react to goat's milk as the protein is so similar. Oat milk is a safer bet. When you decide to start weaning, ask the dietician/consultant/GP for a hypoallergenic formula like Nutramigen as it has more nutrients that oat milk. As long as you're breastfeeding, this isn't an issue and you could always use oat milk on baby rice etc but it's not suitable as a main drink.

shelley72 Mon 06-Feb-12 09:11:44

its interesting to see how much the advice varies, as we were told by our paed consultant to try goats milk, which DD can manage in small quantities. she is however dairy / soya intolerant rather than allergic so maybe that makes a difference.

we also used oatly when she was first moving on to cereals etc. it was just a case of trial and error with us, but like i say she is intolerant so worst case scenario was a grumpy unsettled baby with a tummy upset.

she is now 21 months (still BF) and i have just started in introduce dairy back in to my diet - (3 / 4 cups of tea, desserts sometimes etc) - so far it hasnt affected her too much so hopefully she is slowly growing out of the intolerance.

you didnt say how old your LO was, but it is surprisingly easy to manage a dairy free diet once you are into the swing of things. just dont forget to make sure you are getting enough calcium in your diet too whilst you are still BF.

Lareine Mon 06-Feb-12 09:24:26

My DD 4 has this - she basically has very upset tummy when she has milk products which occassionally flings the other way to constipation.

She has no other visible side effects except being anemic which they are keeping tabs on. She has only been off milk for 6 months.

Anyway, thought it might help you that I use red oatly for drinking or cereal as its calcium enriched but I use orange oatly for cooking. It is by far the best milk alternative for cooking and their cream is also super fab.

I now find dairy free cooking easy! Baking cakes/muffins and pastry especially.
When eating out, they never have much pudding choice so now I just take my own box of home baked brownies! (Dark choc is ok !)

Stokey38 Mon 06-Feb-12 09:31:10

Hello, my DS is 20 months so a bit older but he was diagnosed as having a milk protein intolerance a few months ago after he was sick every day and losing weight. We were advised to stop all dairy and thought it was going to be a real pain (he doesn't eat meat either) but it's been fine although he is okay with soya. All of my neighbours DC's are dairy and soya intolerant and she recommended rice dream, which I have used a few times and DS seems to like.

Lareine Mon 06-Feb-12 10:13:03

Stokey, I was advised by my peaditrician that under 5 can't have rice milk although I am not sure why

Stokey38 Mon 06-Feb-12 10:38:24

Thank you for that! I just checked and you're right he can't have it. I really should check these these things more thoroughly!

freefrommum Mon 06-Feb-12 11:25:52

Rice milk contains small amounts of arsenic so unsuitable for young children.

Casserole Mon 06-Feb-12 11:58:07

DD is CMP and soya allergic too, also non IgE.

She has nutramigen formula now I've stopped breastfeeding, and I use oat milk for cooking, and I had oat milk while I was still nursing her.

If you did want to try goats milk (and I would talk this through with the paed or dietician first) then I guess you'd introduce it how you would any other - try a little bit of goat's butter on toast first, and use some goat's butter in cooking... then if that goes down ok try a bit of goat's milk in cooking, if that's ok then progress to mixing a bit of goat's milk with his usual milk at milk times and gradually up the ratio? that's how we've tried it when DD's had milk challenges.

Just a caution on the dark chocolate - check it doesn't contain soya lecithin in if he's soya allergic too. Lindt 70% (non mild) doesn't, and nor does M&S 70% dark, but lots of them do.

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