My brother wants to claim carers allowance for my grandad

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But does no caring!

He is on universal credit and messaged me today to ask if grandad gets any benefits so that he can put himself down as his carer!!!!

My grandad has daily carers for personal needs once a day, I do all his paperwork and doctor stuff, deal with the DWP etc with an LPA for health and welfare and finances. He has private cleaners monthly to clean his house.

All my brother does is pop up once a week to take a bit of shopping for him and have a cup of tea with him for an hour.

I feel so angry. I do all the heavy lifting, I've organised all the fucking paperwork and paid all the fees for things etc.

Is there any way I can stop him claiming to be his carer? I am so tempted to just dump everything at his door but that would be so unfair on my grandad and he wouldn't get looked after properly.

Seems wrong to get money by just being on call and not actually providing care. What’s to stop the brother saying he’s on call for his granddad without doing a thing for him?

You think that's fair for an hour a week? When someone else does all the paperwork, phone calls, managing the carers, dealing with the daily anxiety filled calls and having the hard conversations around advances decision forms and DNRs and is on the personal alarm for 24/7 callouts, taking time off work to be in hospital 12 hours a day with a man who just says yes to doctors and needs someone to advocate for him?

I do less than you but WAY WAY more than my brother. And I DONT expect to claim carers allowance for all the shit j do.

For those asking yes I did respond. I just said "but you don't do any caring for grandad" to which he replied "but I nip up with his shopping on Wednesdays and other bits when i'm there if he asks" I responded "that's not 35 hours a week caring activity Sam"

He responded.............." I'll just have to get a job, are you ok to pick up the shopping?"

Which illustrates his motivations perfectly.

I still don't trust him to not apply anyway. Though he'd have to ask grandad about his benefits (of which he currently gets none, have very recently found out about attendance allowance which I've applied for him for, like last week). Grandad would want to know why he wants to know though. And will tell me. So we shall see.

I'm just saying that it's a pittance. You should claim it if you can. It's not worth claiming if you work etc.

You seem to really hate your brother. That is a shame.

I don't like him one bit, no.

I'm only speaking to him now because my mum died suddenly on the 10th of March and I have to include him in the distribution of her estate.

He's the kind of man who.holds his sister up against a wall with a fist in her face when she's 6 months pregnant. So, no shame here for me. Thanks.

And the kind of guy who values money over actually caring about his grandfather. Totally fine to hate him, OP. Not sure why some folk think that’s a shame.

Do not let him seems like he just wants to benifit from it without actuarly providing any care

Just tell him you’re already claiming it as you provide so much of the care

He won't be able to claim carers allowance until the Attendance Allowance is awarded anyway.

Hey don't come at me. I didn't know that did I?

Hope you manage to prevent him. As I said, I'd call carers allowance and tell them your concerns.

Pension can be affected - if grandad gets any pension credit it may be topped up because nobody is getting the carers allowance. AgeUK can check his benefits, but as has been mentioned, he will get a letter asking him to confirm that your brother is providing 35 hours of care.
You yourself are potentially providing the care, all the admin, cooking, companionship etc counts.

So weird that you didn’t mention your grandad isn’t even getting a qualifying benefit until much later. I’m sure all you had to do was say to you brother when he asked if grandad was getting any benefits so he could be put down as carer was ‘no, he isn’t’ - job done. This does seem to be a lot about looking to garner up validation for your dislike of your brother. I don’t think your granddads situation is particularly relevant to this though as it was just a simple ‘no’ that was needed.

Yup, the fact he even thought it ok to ask has incensed me.

He's tried again today, and to top it off has accused me of stealing my mums jewellery!

Whilst leaving me to do all the cleaning out and sorting of her personal belongings. I cannot wait to go NC again once all this is over.

What’s he tried again today?

Tell him you are your father's carer abd he can't claim

Just tell him granddad doesn't claim a qualifying benefit so it will be denied. Mine was until my husband's PIP was fully granted.

Messaging me trying to justify why he should be able to tell the job center he's grandads carer.

And then messaged my husband to say he doesn't appreciate my attitude.

It's given me an anxiety attack and I feel unwell.

I hope your husband replied he doesn’t appreciate your brothers attitude

I think you need to start ignoring any message regarding caring allowance he sends from now on

‘Grandad doesn’t get any qualifying benefits’

Im not sure why you haven’t just said that?

But grandad likely will. If you read my posts I've recently applied for attendance allowance on his behalf.

Also mention to your brother that if he gets any form of deduction from his council tax currently for being on UC, then the attendance element is counted as new income. It is reported directly via DWP to his council, who will recalculate his council tax payments and they will go up as a result. He may not be as well off as he thinks!

I did read them. I understand you have applied but at the point where your brother asked you had the opportunity to shut it down completely by telling him the truth which is that grandad does not get any benefits that would enable someone to claim carers.

My Mums carers allowance goes straight into her bank, isn’t that how it works?

Your Brother is a chancer, I would send him one message. Confirming the carer set up in place and that his shopping wouldn’t qualify - then block. Send the identical message to her DH to also send if he goes bleating to him

Well as soon as the attendance allowance comes through you need to contact DWP while with your Grandad and tell them you are his carer.
He will confirm this.
You won't be able to get the carers allowance if you earn more than about 200 pound a week.
But that doesn't matter.
It will block your brother's fraudulent claim and recognise your important role.
All the best.

Yes so if the brother was claiming carers allowance it would go to him.