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Does anyone use working livery?
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allgonebellyup · 05/01/2011 08:24

And does it work out better cost-wise??

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roadkillbunny · 26/02/2011 09:43

Its in Oxfordshire

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allgonebellyup · 26/02/2011 08:42

Roadkill- where is this yard?

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roadkillbunny · 24/02/2011 12:33

Shocked at the price of some of the liverys! The yard I am involved with is a riding school and working livery only, they aren't as flexible when it comes to lessons being booked using your horse but they only do non owner lessons on Friday eve and Saturday and Sunday. There is an indoor school as well as out door and hacking. It is not a state of the art yard but it is clean and tidy even if some of the areas are a little shabby. It is a small yard and never has more then 25 however the livery is just about £80 a month, you are responsible for tack, vet and farrier. I think there is insurance for when used in riding school but your own insurance is highly recommended so I guess this is part of what helps keep the livery down.
It is all so much more now since the last time I had my own, the pony I had through school cost £45 a week on part livery (I did weekends) and when I had them on DIY it was £16 a week for stable, turnout and a tack and feed store room... how things change!

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Minx82 · 16/01/2011 17:40

Can anyone recommed working livery in London or Kent areas?x

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allgonebellyup · 08/01/2011 08:11

Bloody Surrey!

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allgonebellyup · 08/01/2011 08:10

Yes- timewise it does compare favourably with DIY as i am a single parent and work full time!!
It IS a lot of money to me and we will have to make some cut-backs (no eating out/cinema etc!!)

But there are no other WL stables anywhere near us and these ones are 4 mins drive from our door and well known for their high welfare of their horses.

Part livery at the next 2 nearest livery yards is £425 and £445 per month!!!!

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WhyHavePets · 07/01/2011 21:19

I think £65 for WL is totally over the top - but I am nowhere near you and although hay is short it is less so than other areas so my input on that is probably not helpful!

At the end of the day, does it suit you, can you afford it, are you happy with what is being offered and does it compare favourably with other options available?

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allgonebellyup · 07/01/2011 18:11

i cant see livery prices dropping at all, they will prob keep them really high now people have got used to the price Sad

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LovePinkBitsOfMyHorse · 07/01/2011 18:00

Oh forgot, was £25 plus feed

but feed has gone up loads too over past couple of years I think

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Pixel · 07/01/2011 17:34

I can understand the hay prices having an impact as they are sky-high this year, and obviously livery fees have had to go up. It will be interesting to see if they fall again if we get a good harvest this year won't it?

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allgonebellyup · 07/01/2011 17:31

Wow. Thats quite an increase from £25!
The riding school lady today said they had only charge £50/55 before the cost of hay went right up this summer, now the usual cost is £70!

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LovePinkBitsOfMyHorse · 07/01/2011 16:28

Sounds good to me, I paid £70 for shavings but no tack cleaning - always had priority though, so they would use another horse if I showed up unexpectedly and had forgotten to book. That was £70 after a discount for having two at same place, think would have been £80 otherwise Shock it was £25 when we started!

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allgonebellyup · 07/01/2011 13:57

I have managed to get the yard owner to agree to £65 per week for working livery- this includes field, stable, all feed and hay/straw, tack cleaning. We are in the Surrey area so i think this is reasonable???
Tell me if its not??

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allgonebellyup · 06/01/2011 11:57

Thanks. i will have another look around!!

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WhyHavePets · 06/01/2011 09:41

Hve you had a good look around? Perhaps there is somewhere else that offers working apart from the one you have found?

FWIW £300 pm seems an awful lot for working livery - that is nearly twice what I pay for DIY with morning turn outs, hay and straw included!

My advice would be to look around at everything, working, DIY and full livery and see what each offers at what cost etc. Keeping an open mind may help you see possibilites that hadn't occured to you.

Good luck with it, finding a good place that suits you is a tough job but well worth it when you strike gold!

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allgonebellyup · 06/01/2011 09:21

Maybe i just need to find a diy place with better facilites... im not sure i can afford the £300+ a month that the working livery entails, plus shoes and lessons on top Sad

The diy place where my mare is now is a good 10 min drive from home and is at the very top of a hill which is a nightmare in the snow/ice/high winds and there is no school for riding. There is hacking but i hate riding on my own as my horse tends to be anxious and tries to bolt home. My dd also never wants to come up there as there is nowhere for lessons and no other kids around.
But its very cheap!
i dont know what to do!

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CluckyKate · 05/01/2011 20:28

As has been said already it's great provided the horse is given suitable riders.

I had my girlie on working livery when I first got her - I bought her from a riding instructor on the same yard and she was my first horse. Wouldn't do it again though as there were a few incidents/accidents that occurred shortly before we moved (move was already planned and not as a result) but admit that it was exactly the right thing for me at that time.

That was 9 years ago and we've been on DIY-assisted ever since, with a brief foray into full-livery, and would never go back.

The thing to remember is that no-one will look after your horse in quite the same way as you, no matter how well intentioned. If you can live with the niggles then go for it with your eyes wide open. If, on the other hand, you're a control freak (like me) then stick with DIY Smile

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slipperandpjsmum · 05/01/2011 19:32

Our last pony was on a working livery. Make sure you have a contract so you both know what is expected. We paid £130 month, which included feed and shoes. We also got 50% reduction in cost of lessons.

She was insured under the schools insurance although we also took out of own to ensure we were totally covered for everything.

The downside was we could not use her whenever we wanted to eg we needed to book in advance during school hols, which worked out ok but would not suit everyone.

It was def cheaper for us though as where we live its at least £70pw for full livery with food etc ontop.

I think its a good idea if its your first time with a pony or you feel you may struggle to give them the time they deserve. However, you have to be ok with the fact that lots of different people ride your pony and that is certainly not for everyone!

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WhyHavePets · 05/01/2011 17:57

Our pony is on working/diy livery as he needs at least 3 hrs work a day to be rideable Hmm
My daughters horse and my own shared horse are on full diy livery as neither need the extra work.
Working is exactly 50% of the diy and covers half of shoes etc plus all feed (unless you want something different than pony nuts, I pay for mix and the yard provides the alfa and sugarbeet).

We are lucky enough to have a great school, good hacking, regular show trips, own x country etc etc and if our own pony has done too much in a day for us to ride they will lend us one of theirs or if we all want to ride together they will lend a pony for the dc and a horse for me (as two dc share our pony IYSWIM). They are really very very good.

Basically, IMHO, working livery is as good as the yard you are on, we happened across one of the best I think and can imagine it is hellish if you stumble onto some of the worst - in short do your homework Grin

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LovePinkBitsOfMyHorse · 05/01/2011 17:48

Yikes, I never disclosed that they were on working livery. I don't think it was asked, directly?

Anyway there is a place very close to my house where they could be in dirt cheap working livery, but there is nowhere to hack and it is freakishly tidy everywhere. I wouldn't last a week.

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allgonebellyup · 05/01/2011 17:18

oooh.
Thanks for that.
I can see that sort of situation happening to me. i live under a black cloud, you see.

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Pixel · 05/01/2011 16:39

I've never done working livery but if you decide to, check your insurance. I've just been reading a letter in a magazine from a woman whose horse had to have expensive vet treatment. The insurance co. initially gave the go-ahead for treatment but then refused to pay up when they found out the horse was on working livery. They said the woman hadn't stated that her horse was being used for 'business purposes'. Just something worth bearing in mind.Smile

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allgonebellyup · 05/01/2011 12:40

Thanks.

My DIY yard +my sharer only costs me £50 a month!

but there is no school and i barely get to ride,seems pointless. We are thinking of getting a smaller horse or pony for myself and dd to ride and same as you- its quoted as £70 a week so £280 a month!!!

I guess that IS cheaper than full livery!

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LovePinkBitsOfMyHorse · 05/01/2011 12:02

Better than what cost-wise? Full livery?

Working livery was great for us from a keeping them fit and out of mischief angle, it was cheaper than full livery by miles but it came with loads of minor and not so minor annoyances. It's not ideal but it needn't be the horror story some people assume either - if horse gets interesting work with suitable riders it's great. I would consider it again if I was struggling to exercise them fully, but only after exhaustive search for sharer.

Just switched to grass livery, about 98% diy, and costs compare favourably so far.

At this time of year working livery for horse would have been £70 a week, pony was £40 all year round. That was all inclusive (feed hay bedding) only had farrier, vet etc on top. Our field is £50 a week with water electricity and unlimited hay, or £40 without hay in summer, I just buy feed.

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