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MsLatté’s Daebak Cybercafé (Kdrama addicts #39): February sees the Filthy Noonas warmed by the smouldering embers of Jin’s leather trousers

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boatyardblues · 11/02/2023 07:10

A quiet corner of MN for serious addicts of Kdrama, or the K-curious. Most of our viewing is drawn from Netflix and Viki, with a sprinkling of AmazonPrime, AppleTV and Disney+. There are also platforms streaming content illegally if you go looking. We don’t promote them as they are peppered with pop-ups of “Olga” and friends offering a good time, but we can point you in the right direction. We also dip into Japanese, Taiwanese & Chinese drama as & when.


The previous thread is here but our list is cumulative so includes recommendations and favourites from all previous threads. Shows marked with a star are more uniformly loved or admired. In categorising series, its important to note most Korean dramas have multiple strands - e.g. supernatural, romance and a thriller; crime series with fantasy elements. Genre-busting mash-ups are normal. Series that are tagged as dark may also have moments of comedy or the absurd, likewise fluff can have heavier moments. Writer/actor Simon Pegg referred to it fondly as “tonal chaos” - it’s part of kdrama’s charm. View the categories below as best approximate & ask if you need guidance about suitability for younger viewers.

Comedy (with a side order of absurd)
I picked up a celebrity on the street (Viki)
My Fellow Citizens (Viki/Netflix)
The Fiery Priest (Netflix)

Crime/Thriller
Come and Hug Me (Dramafast)
Graceful Family (Viki)
Healer (Netflix)🌟
Heartless City (Viki)
He is Psychometric (Viki)
I Hear Your Voice (Netflix /Viki)
Life on Mars (classy remake of BBC series, no major site yet)
Little Women (Netflix)
My Name (Netflix)
My Secret Terrius (Netflix)🌟
Signal (Netflix)🌟
Somebody (Netflix, content warning: sexual & violence)
Snowdrop (Disney+)
Stranger - 2 seasons (Netflix)
Suspicious Partner (Netflix)🌟
The Lies Within (Netflix)🌟
Tunnel (Netflix)🌟

Historical/Period drama (“sageuk”)
100 Days My Prince (Viki/Netflix)
Crowned Clown (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Mr Queen (Viki)🌟
Mr Sunshine (Netflix)
Pachinko (AppleTV)
Rookie Historian Goo Hae-Ryung (Netflix)
Tale of Nokdu (Viki/Netflix)🌟
The Forbidden Marriage (Viki)
The King’s Affection (Netflix)
The Red Sleeve (Viki)🌟

Romance - lighter & fluffier
Beating Again (Netflix)
Business Proposal (Netflix)
Coffee Prince (Netflix)
Dali & the Cocky Prince (Viki)
Don’t Dare to Dream (Netflix, or as Jealousy Incarnate on Viki)🌟
Gogh, The Starry Night (Viki)
Happy Once Again (Netflix)
Her Private Life (Viki)🌟
His Master’s Sun (Netflix)
Hometown Cha Cha Cha (Viki)🌟
Love from a Star (Netflix)🌟
Lovestruck in the City (Netflix)
Monthly Magazine Home (Viki)
Pinocchio (Netflix)
Radio Romance (Netflix)
Romance is the Bonus Book (Netflix)🌟
Run On (Netflix)
She Was Pretty (Netflix)🌟
The Beauty Inside (Viki/Netflix)
The Secret Life of My Secretary (Viki/Netflix)
Thirty Not Seventeen (Viki) or as Still 17 (Netflix)
To My Star [BL] (Viki)
True Beauty (Viki)
Twenty-five Twenty-one (Netflix)🌟
Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo (Netflix/Viki)
What’s Up With Secretary Kim (Viki)🌟
Where Stars Land (Viki)🌟
You are my Destiny (Netflix)
You Make Me Dance [BL] (Viki)
Yumi’s Cells (Viki)


Romance - heavier weight/more grown up themes
Another Miss Oh (Netflix)🌟
Because This Is My First Life (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Chicago Typewriter (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Crash Landing on You (Netflix)🌟
Descendants of the Sun (Viki/Netflix)
Doctors (Netflix)
Doom At Your Service (Viki)
Fight For My Way (Viki/Netflix)🌟
Go Back Couple (Viki)/Couple on the Backtrack (Netflix)
I’ll Go To You When The Weather is Nice (Viki)
It’s OK Not To Be OK (Netflix)
Just Between Lovers (Viki)/Rain or Shine (Netflix)🌟
Mad For Each Other (Netflix)🌟
Melo is my Nature (Viki)/Be Melodramatic (Netflix)🌟
My Strange Hero (Viki)
One Spring Night (Netflix)
Red Carpet - film (Netflix, very adult content)
Romantic Dr Kim - seasons 1&2 (Viki)
Search: WWW (Viki, Netflix)🌟
Something in the Rain (Netflix)
The Handmaid (film, Netflix - content warning: explicit sexual content)
The Package (Viki)

Straighter ‘Slice of Life’ dramas on universal themes
Gaus Electronics (Viki)🌟
Hospital Playlist (Netflix)🌟
Hospital Playlist 2 (Netflix)🌟
Into The Ring (Viki)
Itaewon Class (Netflix)
Live (Netflix)
Misaeng (Netflix)🌟
My Liberation Notes🌟
Move to Heaven (Netflix)
My Mister (Viki/Netflix)🌟
My Unfamiliar Family (Viki)🌟
Navillera (Netflix)🌟
Prison Playbook (Netflix)🌟
On The Verge of Insanity (Viki)
Once Again (Viki)
Our Blues (Netflix)🌟
Stove League (Viki)/Hot Stove League (Netflix)
Racket Boys (Netflix)
Would You Like a Cup of Coffee (Viki🌟

Supernatural/zombies/vampires/fantasy/sci-fi - lighter & fluffier
Alchemy of Souls (Netflix) 🌟Extraordinary You (Netflix)
Goblin (Viki)🌟

I am not a Robot (Netflix)
Legend of the Blue Sea (Viki/Netflix)
Kiss Goblin (Viki, webdrama)
My Holo Love (Netflix)🌟
Orange Marmalade (Netflix)
While You Were Sleeping (Viki)🌟


Supernatural/zombies/vampires/fantasy/sci-fi - darker/more grown up themes
#Alive (Netflix)
Black (Netflix)🌟
Happiness (Viki)🌟
Hotel del Luna (Viki/Netflix)🌟
King: The Eternal Monarch (Netflix)
Kingdom (Netflix)🌟
Kingdom: Ashin of the North (Netflix)
Mystic Pop-up Bar (Netflix)
Peninsula - film, Train to Busan sequel (Amazon Prime, iMovies)
Sisyphus (Netflix)
Sell Your Haunted House (Netflix)
The Guest (Netflix)
Train to Busan - film (Amazon Prime)

W: Two Worlds (Viki & Netflix)🌟
Zombie Detective (Viki/Netflix)

Guilty Pleasures (for the joy, not the quality)
Bride of Habaek (Netflix)
Hwarang (Viki/Netflix)
My Secret Romance (Viki)
The Last Empress (Viki/Netflix)
Sassy Go Go (Netflix)


Mad as a box of frogs/uncategorisable
Strong Girl Bong Soon (Netflix)
School Nurse Files (Netflix)

Not Korean ‘You May Also Like’
Regulars also branch out into Japanese, Taiwanese and Chinese drama. The Chinese & Taiwanese stuff is much more variable quality-wise, so we’ve noted anything decent here:

Before We Get Married (Viki - Taiwanese)
Find Yourself (Netflix - Chinese)
First Love (Netflix - Japanese)🌟
Go Go Squid (Viki - Chinese)
In House Marriage Honey (Viki, Japanese)
In Time With You (Viki - Japanese)
Instead of Tipsy Why Not Get Drunk (Viki, Chinese)
Lost Romance (Viki, Taiwanese)
Love O2O (Viki, Chinese)
Meet Yourself (Viki, Chinese)
Million Yen Women (Netflix, Japanese)
Morning Call (Netflix, Japanese)
My Little Happiness (Viki, Chinese)
Put Your Head on My Shoulder (Netflix, Chinese)
Rinko Wants To Try (Viki)
Some Day or One Day (Viki, Taiwanese)
Sweat and Soap (Viki, Japanese)
The Makanai (Netflix, Japanese)
The Romance of Tiger & Rose (Viki, Chinese)
To Fly with Me (Viki, Chinese)
Tientsin Mystic (Netflix, Chinese)
You Are My Hero (Viki, Chinese)*

AVOID aka “the shit list” 💩
Melting Me Softly
The Birth of a Beauty
Well-Intentioned Love season 1 (S2 is fine & stands alone)

Top Scoring 2022 Dramas
Courtesy of much-missed Hello’s kdrama spreadsheet, updated by thread regulars. Marks out of 10.

#1 My Liberation Notes 9.45

#2Alchemy of Souls 9.10

#3 First Love 8.88 (Jdrama)

#4 Our Blues 8.83

#5 Gaus Electronics 8.75

Top Scoring 2021 Dramas
#1 The Red Sleeve - 10
#2 Happiness - 9
#3 Devil Judge - 8.75
#4 Squid Game - 8.6
#5 Navillera - 8.57

Top Scoring 2020 dramas
#1 Mr Queen - 9.4
#2 Parasite (film) - 9.05
#3 It's Okay To Not Be Okay - 8.88
#4 The Uncanny Counter - 8.50
#5 Once Again - 8.42

Top Scoring 2019 dramas
#1 Her Private Life - 9.40
#2 Melo is My Nature - 9.00
#3 tied: Crash Landing On You, The Crowned Clown, The Lies Within, and The Tale of Nokdu - 8.75
#4 Hotel del Luna - 8.50
#5 tied: Romance is a Bonus Book, and Search: WWW - 8.17

We are fans of all things Korean, so equally happy to talk about Korean cookery, language, current affairs, film and music when the mood takes us. A few of us are learning Korean, Japanese and/or Mandarin (some more diligently than others), so we swap tips and links to language resources. Basically, anything topical goes.

We often resort to acronyms and/or abbreviations of show titles or actors’ names. Don’t be afraid to ask for help/clues if we’re not making sense or have descended into acronym soup.

If you want to join us down the kdrama rabbit hole, welcome! Pull up a chair, say goodbye to early nights and get stuck in!

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TheLoupGarou · 27/03/2023 13:17

I think I read the premise for 'Melting me Softly ' and noped out 😬 I had thought about giving 'Backstreet Rookie' a go, but it's way down the list....

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TheLoupGarou · 27/03/2023 13:15

Yeah, I'm not normally keen on her but she's a sweet character in Healer - I quite liked her in Her Private Life & didn't mind her in WWWSK (but I really watched that one for PSJ 🤣)

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JinBhoot · 27/03/2023 13:05

@TheLoupGarou I also recognised her after a really long time. It was definitely her one of the better roles. I never find her very engaging (atleast in recent dramas).

I though Lovestruck in the City was his first one after military duty, clearly Melting Me Softly &  Backstreet Rookie were so bad that they were never on my radar.

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TheLoupGarou · 27/03/2023 12:53

I am a bit dense and have only just realised the female lead in Healer is Park Min-Young !!! I clearly was paying her nearly zero attention the first time I watched it!

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Bea · 27/03/2023 12:15

@bettys... Exactly! The thought of skipping or dropping a Grr JCW drama was unthinkable but nowadays... Quite understandable! 😳😳😢😭😭😭😱

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Bea · 27/03/2023 12:13

@AmVa ...the fine knitwear! 💕💕💕

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TheLoupGarou · 27/03/2023 12:12

AmVa ooo enjoy!

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AmVa · 27/03/2023 12:00

I've just watched the first Healer and all the chat that's just been happening has made me very excited for ... The knitwear 👀

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TheLoupGarou · 27/03/2023 11:47

Bea : that man can pull off a polo-neck sweater alright! I may have watched that gif loop, er, several times 🤓

Dragon I didn't know that - hopefully a change of agency will mean better roles on the way....

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bettys · 27/03/2023 11:00

Bea · 27/03/2023 10:50

Exactly @TheLoupGarou... I mean post military...

Melting Me Softly 👎 Backstreet Rookie 👎 Lovestruck in the City 🤷🏻‍♀️The Sound of Magic 🤷🏻‍♀️ and If You Wish Upon Me 🤷🏻‍♀️

All of them have no way been a patch on healer and suspicious partner... And a fair few of them have been very questionable! Can't even blame bad script etc... Just awful story lines! It's sooooo disappointing! 😱😭😭😭😭... How could you Grr JCW!! How could you?!?..
😂🙈🙈🙈

Absolutely @Bea , after the long wait for him to come back from military (musical) duty to be handed Melting Me Softly.....I never thought I'd skip a Grrr JCW but ended up skipping MMS & dropping Backstreet Rookie 😫
🤞 he gets some better projects

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Bea · 27/03/2023 10:50
Happy Korean Drama GIF by The Swoon

Exactly @TheLoupGarou... I mean post military...

Melting Me Softly 👎 Backstreet Rookie 👎 Lovestruck in the City 🤷🏻‍♀️The Sound of Magic 🤷🏻‍♀️ and If You Wish Upon Me 🤷🏻‍♀️

All of them have no way been a patch on healer and suspicious partner... And a fair few of them have been very questionable! Can't even blame bad script etc... Just awful story lines! It's sooooo disappointing! 😱😭😭😭😭... How could you Grr JCW!! How could you?!?..
😂🙈🙈🙈

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Dragonrock · 27/03/2023 10:48

Seems JCW has left his agency, so also hoping that he gets better projects.

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TheLoupGarou · 27/03/2023 10:16

Amen to the great knitwear Bea - I also endorse "Grrr! JCW" 🤣🤣 he's such a good actor, I have faith a worthy script will come along for him....

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Bea · 27/03/2023 10:02

re: JCW ... Healer is definitely definitely the one... one of the very first kdramas I watched and it completely hooked me! (along with strong girl and sec kim!)... Healer has the fine fine knitwear and gave JCW the magnificent nickname in early threads "Grrr! JCW"... however he lost it when he came back after enlistement and starred in a load of turkeys!!! I'm so sad!!!!!............😥

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TheLoupGarou · 27/03/2023 09:49

Saram13 · 27/03/2023 08:54

I'm probably going to have mad dreams now about cute but smelly and bitey otters trying to gnaw my toes while JuniorSaram waltzes around in a suit, sunglasses and fake beard and JK enthusiastically trashes my kitchen doing experimental cooking as soju bottles roll around the floor. Yoongi will probably turn up unannounced at the front door, comfortingly and silently nod and blink and pat my shoulder, and leave again.

You would probably want Yoongi to come in and take over the cooking - maybe some extra side-dishes....

DD is a big Shiba Inu fan - I'll have to find the cafe online and show her, but her absolute favourite would be the micro pigs, as she loves them more than anything else in the world (closely followed by Jimin 🤣).

migs I'm laughing about the glittery poo in your garden!

All the Healer chat the other day inspired me to start rewatching: can confirm I'm enjoying it just as much and JCW is SO cool in it ❤️

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Saram13 · 27/03/2023 09:16

Migs 😍 we've one living opposite us and it's clearly more of a handful than the owners can deal with 😬 I dispassionately watched them trying to call it back in when it escaped once. Was largely unsuccessful.

JuniorSaram's favourite Xmas presents last year were these glasses, which I picked up in H-Mart in New Malden

MsLatté’s Daebak Cybercafé (Kdrama addicts #39): February sees the Filthy Noonas warmed by the smouldering embers of Jin’s leather trousers
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MigsandTiggs · 27/03/2023 08:58

Saram, I have a Shiba Inu in the family. He is lethal around Xmas decorations and I have the headless snowmen to prove it, plus when the snow melted there was glitter poo in the garden. He also knows the word "zombie" because I pretend to be a zombie and chase him round the house! He can get away with anything because, pretty!

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Saram13 · 27/03/2023 08:54

I'm probably going to have mad dreams now about cute but smelly and bitey otters trying to gnaw my toes while JuniorSaram waltzes around in a suit, sunglasses and fake beard and JK enthusiastically trashes my kitchen doing experimental cooking as soju bottles roll around the floor. Yoongi will probably turn up unannounced at the front door, comfortingly and silently nod and blink and pat my shoulder, and leave again.

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Saram13 · 27/03/2023 08:48

If JuniorSaram heard about the Shiba Inu cafe, I fear someone would be doing a school bunk and on the plane to Tokyo convincingly disgused as an adult before you could count to three.

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boatyardblues · 27/03/2023 08:38

I wish I could remember which chapter it was, as I’d screengrab the pane of the ML with about 5 otters climbing all over him. I’m glad to have had my otters = bitey/smelly recollection confirmed by the rest of you. It sounds like a risk assessor’s nightmare and not conducive to a relaxing date or significant food sales.

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MigsandTiggs · 27/03/2023 07:58

Did you say "Owl cafe"? I'm scared of birds but after following giant owls on insta, I want to go to an owl cafe! That'll be me, behind the chair.😄

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FedUpWithBriiiiick · 27/03/2023 07:55

TheLoupGarou · 27/03/2023 07:39

Otters are adorable, although quite bitey and potentially smelly?! Either way I'm here for the otter cafe concept!

The stink. 🤢

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FedUpWithBriiiiick · 27/03/2023 07:55

boatyardblues · 26/03/2023 23:34

(It’s a cafe with live otters, just in case anyone was wondering if it had another meaning in Japan.)

Can confirm. See also Owl cafe, micro pig cafe and Shiba Inu cafe.

DS and I are sticking to the cat cafe 😄

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TheLoupGarou · 27/03/2023 07:42

(although I probably wouldn't want to work there 🤣)

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TheLoupGarou · 27/03/2023 07:39

Otters are adorable, although quite bitey and potentially smelly?! Either way I'm here for the otter cafe concept!

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