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Site attacks, hackergate and resetting passwords - here's what we know, what we're doing about it and what we think you should do. PLEASE READ!

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JustineMumsnet · 18/08/2015 15:37

On the night of Tuesday 11 August, Mumsnet came under attack from what's known as a denial of service (DDoS) attack. Our servers were bombarded with requests, which required our internet service provider to massively increase server capacity to cope. We were able to restore the site at 10am on Wednesday 12 August. Meanwhile a Twitter account, @DadSecurity, claimed responsibility, saying in various tweets "Now is the start of something wonderful", "RIP Mumsnet", "Nothing will be normal anymore" and "Our DDoS attacks are keeping you offline".

To add to the 'fun', it seems @DadSecurity also resorted to Swatting attacks. Swatting is a criminal practice in which someone makes an emergency call to the police claiming that a crime is taking place at the house of the intended victim, in order to get them to send a swat team to the address.

An armed response team turned up at my house last week in the middle of the night, after reports of a gunman prowling around. A Mumsnet user who engaged with @DadSecurity on Twitter was warned to "prepare to be swatted by the best" in a tweet that included a picture of a swat team, after which police arrived at her house late at night following a report of gunshots. Needless to say, she and her young family were pretty shaken up. It's worth saying that we don't believe these addresses were gained directly from any Mumsnet hack, as we don't collect addresses. The police are investigating both instances.

@DadSecurity also claimed that he had access to Mumsnet user data. Later on 12 August, it became apparent that someone/ones had hacked into some of Mumsnet's administrative functions, at which point they were able to redirect our homepage to the @DadSecurity Twitter profile page, as well as to edit posts from two users' account and an MNHQ account on our forums.

Someone claiming to be the hacker also posted on the thread on which users were discussing the site outage. We immediately locked down all access to our admin functions and reported the attack to the police. We were confident that users' passwords had not been accessed, because MNHQ doesn't hold them as plain text; they're all encrypted, so that no one - not even us - can see them.

However, over the weekend, a user reported that posts had been made under her name which weren't by her, and we spotted two other cases where this had happened. This clearly suggested that the hacker had nonetheless been able to get hold of some users' passwords.

Our best guess at this stage (and it is just a best guess) is that this has been done via a form of phishing, in which the hacker creates a fake Mumsnet login page to which users are directed when clicking on our login button. The page would have had a different url but otherwise would look just like the usual page. The hacker would have been able to see passwords in plain text when they were typed in.

We take great care to protect the information you give us and not to ask for or store any more information than we need to run the site, but though we can't know how many accounts have been affected, there have been enough breaches for us to ask all Mumsnet users to change their passwords. As a result, you'll no longer be able to log in to Mumsnet with your current password, and will need to create a new one, here.

This will mean that any passwords the hacker has been able to harvest up to this point will be useless. We are looking into what we can do to strengthen our defences against phishing, but in the meantime we need to ask you to be vigilant, and to check the URL of the login page for the foreseeable future. The correct URL is www.mumsnet.com/session/login and it reads rather than at the beginning. We will place a warning on the login page reminding you to do this.

Alternatively use the social login option (ie Facebook/Google) as then you won't be required to enter a password. And if you log into any other sites using the same password that you use on Mumsnet, it makes sense to change your password on those sites, too.

We're really sorry for the alarm and inconvenience this might cause, and we realise you're likely to have further questions about what's been happening, so here's a summary of answers to the most obvious questions.

You say the hacker was able to access Mumsnet users' data: was data from my personal account accessed?
We have no way of knowing how many Mumsnetters were affected - so far we have evidence of 11 user accounts being hacked but it's an ongoing investigation. Those users have been informed, and their passwords have been reset. We think it prudent, however, that everyone reset their passwords - which in any case is a sensible thing to do from time to time.

What data could the hacker see?
By using your password and login, he would have been able to see the data on your profile - so that includes your username or email plus your password, your postcode if you've supplied it, your username history and your Mumsnet inbox.

Now that I've changed my password, can you guarantee that my data is safe?
Unfortunately, we can't give you a cast-iron guarantee of this - no site can. By forcing a password reset the hacker won't be able to log in as you; however, if phishing was the cause, the page could be phished again, which is why it's important that you check the URL of the login page when you enter your details, or use your social login. If the URL is anything other than www.mumsnet.com/session/login, don't use it.

Final thoughts
The internet is of course brilliant, but it's not 100% safe and secure. Whenever you share anything on the web, either publicly (such as on a Mumsnet thread) or privately (such as the data you give to a website when signing up), have a think about how happy you'd be for that information to fall into the hands of someone else. Make your passwords as secure as possible and change them every few months. Use different passwords for different accounts. Close redundant accounts that you no longer use.

And if you read nothing else...
I do realise this post is long, so here's a quick summary:

DO reset your Mumsnet password
DO make passwords really strong to reduce the risk of them being guessed
DO check the URL of any login page to reduce risk of phishing
DO verify that is being used on login pages
DO use social login to avoid typing passwords
DON'T give out information to any organisations without verifying they are who they say they are (such as the fake @mumsnetsupport twitter account that had also been started but has now been removed by Twitter)

Please post here or mail us on [email protected] with any questions or thoughts. As you can imagine our inbox is fairly voluminous at the moment but we'll get back to you as quickly as we can.

Thanks very much for reading,

Justine

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WellWhoKnew · 19/08/2015 02:13

all you're not. I've checked for you.

But i'm offing to bed now. Good night. everyone.

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ilovesooty · 19/08/2015 02:13

Sorry I don't know where the random "friends" came from in my post. Blush

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Allalonenow · 19/08/2015 02:16

Oh thanks Tronic how kind of you!

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CloserToFiftyThanTwenty · 19/08/2015 02:17

text - a few of us have had spoof "you have made a purchase on iTunes / PayPal" emails recently - see thread here. Don't click on any links in the email - open a new window and log onto PayPal etc afresh and report any concerns about activity to them that way

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Allalonenow · 19/08/2015 02:17

And you too Well sleep tight.

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SurlyCue · 19/08/2015 02:17

Ok so i think if you logged in between last tuesday and today and typed in your password there is a good chance you will be on the list. If you logged in but didnt type your password, i.e; it was autofilled then you probably wont be on the list (because of how the phishing works)

However, ALL PASSWORDS WERE VOIDED TODAY and HQ provided the correct link to create a new password so it is unlikely that anyone's current password will be on that list.

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howtorebuild · 19/08/2015 02:18

He is following F4J.

Story in the mailonline.

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JessicaMumsnet · 19/08/2015 02:19

@wickedlazy

Can they get access to your facebook information if you log in to mn through it? (No idea how it works).


We don't have access to your Facebook details, those social log ins are widely considered to be very safe.
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ThunderClown · 19/08/2015 02:22

His Twitter has been suspended? This is all quite unpleasant. Have done a name change and a password change and feel like a different person now Sad
WineCakeFlowers to everyobe

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enviousllama · 19/08/2015 02:23

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cozietoesie · 19/08/2015 02:23

wickedlazy

They're no white hats that's for sure.

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CorporationPop · 19/08/2015 02:24

We don't have access to your Facebook details, those social log ins are widely considered to be very safe

That is what MNHQ said about our passwords, now look what has happened.

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wickedlazy · 19/08/2015 02:25

Had to look up white hat, could be someone pretending to be him?

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Dobedobedo · 19/08/2015 02:27

Can anyone tell me if I'm on the list? I've had weird emails from PayPal etc. Changing all passwords now.

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MistressMerryWeather · 19/08/2015 02:28

Seems this guy is only following 2 accounts, both F4J...

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f1fan2001 · 19/08/2015 02:28

Am I on the list please?

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textfan · 19/08/2015 02:28

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TheHumourlessHarpy · 19/08/2015 02:29

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CloserToFiftyThanTwenty · 19/08/2015 02:32

I think the Mail story just tries to make a tenuous link with F4J, how.

Now these are people who need to be concerned about a site being hacked (Mail link warning)

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Dobedobedo · 19/08/2015 02:33

Never mind. Got my answer!

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f1fan2001 · 19/08/2015 02:34

ty Harpy that is a relief

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Dobedobedo · 19/08/2015 02:34

Thanks thehumor

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cozietoesie · 19/08/2015 02:35

Just - as you've changed your relevant passwords - keep an eye open for phishing attempts over the next while.

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