Night training

[Forkrightorf]

DS turned 6 last month and still wears a pull-up to bed. He potty trained almost 4 years ago with no major issues and is very independent with his personal care - he despises wearing pull-ups.
We have tried to lose the pull-up this week as it's half term, he wets multiple times during the night despite limiting liquid for an hour or two before bed and waking him to have a wee once or twice in the evening. He sleeps v v deeply and often doesn't wake when he's wet, we are using bed mats to protect his bed.
My question is, am I flogging a dead horse here? I do understand that night dryness is hormone dependant, and that up to age 7 is typical but is there really no element of 'training' in getting them dry? I'm more than happy to go back to pull-ups for a little while if he's just not ready but DS is not!
Any tips or experiences welcome. Thanks

[ChickenLicken22]

I feel your pain! DS1 is 6.5 and came out of night nappies last summer so almost 6. We lift him once, make him walk to the loo and insist on a pre-bedtime wee. We still get the occasional accident but it's getting less. He is a super deep sleeper too, always has been.

DS2, just 4, isn't such a great/ deep sleeper and was out of night nappies at 3.5 (he just refused to wear them in the end, we even tried to slip them on in his sleep). He gets lifted too and is almost as reliable as is big brother. Still wets, which is annoying, but it's fortnightly rather than weekly or more often, which is manageable.

I think it just depends on the child! Not too helpful but just wanted to say you are not alone. I hate changing sheets in the middle of the night!

[NapQueen]

He may still be wetting because he cant feel the wetness in a pullup.

[Forkrightorf]

Interesting to hear that persevering with taking your DD to the toilet paid off NapQueen - often I see on these threads that it's not even worth trying until their nappies are dry overnight so I'm pleased to see that you were able to help her along.
Last night he went to bed at 8 and had already wet by 10.30. I checked him at 4 when I was up with the baby and he was still dry but was wet when he got up at 6ish. I think I'll carry on for another few days - maybe I'll try to wake him for a wee an hour or so after he falls asleep and see if that helps.
I'm just reluctant to carry on without seeing some improvement as he wakes so early that I worry he doesn't get enough sleep on school nights anyway, without all these interruptions.
Thanks for replying

[FallenSkies]

I don't have any advise I'm afraid, but watching with interest as my daughter is fully potty trained in the day but shows absolutely no sign of being anywhere near ready for night. It is early days for me, as she is only 3, but if you can train for nights then I am interested in tips.

[NapQueen]

We were in a similar situation with 5yo dd until recently. One night we said to her "no pull ups" and chucked some bed mats under her sheet. Made her pee right before bed, then went in about 11pm and woke her to go to the loo. Decided that if she was wet at 11pm she wasnt ready but she was dry.

Did this for about 4 weeks. Random nights she would shout for us about 10/10.30, awake and needing a wee, so we took her.

For the last week or so weve stopped waking her at 11pm and had 1 accident in that time.

Oh, and wheb we first started we made a chart with ten boxes on. 1 dry night = a sticker. 10 stickers = a trip to Build a Bear.

No pressure on her as there was no time limit or need for it to be consecutive, and of course we were helping by waking her.

Its been advised on here not to lift them but I genuinely believe if we hadnt wed still be in the pull ups. As it is we made she she was fully awake and walking herself to the bathroom and back, rather than lifting her in her sleep onto a potty or whatever.