Schedule: Skedule or Sshedule?

[bottolololcks]

I hope the title makes sense - I'm not a native speaker

In my new job, this word is used quite a lot but I see people pronouncing in two different ways and I don't know which one I should use. I need to chose one and stick with it.

Which one do you use and why?

[happylittletree]

I'm American, living in Britain. I say skedule (or more precisely sked-jool), despite having altered some of my pronunciations to fit in / help my child (to the extent that I even say to-mah-to much of the time).

Fwiw I think I vary on ee-ther and eye-ther depending on mood and where the word falls in the sentence.

[KimberleyClark]

@GreenWhiteViolet

I say skedule and lootenant. The latter probably because I suspect I first heard the word on Star Trek as a small child.

I’m sure Patrick Stewart must have found it hard to have to say Lootenant.

[KimberleyClark]

I think Skedule makes more sense. After all we don’t say shool. Or sheme.

[PedantScorner]

British but not English. Shedule.
I say either as eye-ther.

The sh for s in words like strong, street, estuary and stress irritates me.

[goodbyerye]

English born and bred

I think shed

[BreastedBoobilyToTheStairs]

@bottolololcks

and how about sCHemes?

That would be 'sk'.

It isn't so much about the spelling, but the etymology. That's why English is such a bonkers language. I'm not an expert by any means, but my understanding is this:

Scheme is 'sk' because it comes straight from the Latin, which in turn comes from the Greek. The have the hard 'sk' sound.

Schedule is 'sh' because the Greek/Latin took a detour through the French language before getting to English (in the same way as 'machine'), which gives the soft 'sh' sound.

Americans pronounce 'schedule' as if it hadn't done that (ie closer to the Greek or Latin), but don't do the same for 'machine'.

[follyfoot37]

@HVPRN

Skedule!

noooo! Unless you are not native British

[supravit]

@WomensLandArmy

No, because that would make me a twat.
HTH

I think it makes you a twat either way.

[bottolololcks]

and how about sCHemes?

[banivani]

@Grassisbluer

I'm not sure how common one version or the other is in Ireland, but, for what it's worth, I'm Irish and say Shed-ule.
(I don't think that is the right video to explain this, must be one of his others.)

Ah feck it, so it must be. Well they’re all worth a watch, so.

[EstherHazy]

@Dogsarebetterthanhumans that's the best post on here!!

There's your answer, OP - 'sh' for traditional British but most people really don't judge and a good chunk evidently nowadays say 'sk' as all these things change over time naturally :-)

[Dogsarebetterthanhumans]

I grew up with two university linguists (my father a professor and mother a lecturer) as parents and language and linguistics was big in my house. I learned how stuff was pronounced by different people for different reasons which is actually really interesting.

’Sch’ is the correct English pronunciation .
’Sk’ is the US pronunciation.

Another one that people struggle with is ‘issue’ or ‘issues’. This is correctly pronounced ‘ish-yOO’ not ‘ish-SHOE’

I don’t judge people who pronounce things differently as we are all brilliantly the products of our environments. X

[GreenWhiteViolet]

I say skedule and lootenant. The latter probably because I suspect I first heard the word on Star Trek as a small child.

[sanityisamyth]

@Paesano

Shedule is the British pronunciation. Skedule is American.

This.

[youmustbemad]

When someone asks which I say I can never remember. It's like my brain goes totally blank as soon as I start thinking about it. It is possible that i use both. I'm usually really pedantic but this one is just a weird blind spot for me.
I never ever judge non-native speakers for pronunciation, though I can be judgy with native speakers. (DH insists on several odd pronunciations which drive me up the wall.)

[WildCherryBlossom]

I am British and say Skedule. I'll put it down to having a Canadian English teacher at primary school,

How about eye-ther or ee-ther ?

L-eye-doh or lee-doh?

[Grassisbluer]

@banivani

I say skedule and have Irish heritage but have grown up abroad. Im honestly not sure if it’s American influence or common in Ireland but I think the latter? I think dr Geoff Lindsey talks about it in one of his videos but in passing. It might be this one but I’m not sure.

I'm not sure how common one version or the other is in Ireland, but, for what it's worth, I'm Irish and say Shed-ule.
(I don't think that is the right video to explain this, must be one of his others.)

[PatsyJStone]

Always said it how is being described as American but I've been around long before the internet and any other so called influences! I'm English.
Don't understand how negotiation could be 'si ation', Does anyone say influen si al, international si a nal, unless they are e.g. French, Spanish.
But I don't get worked up or too bothered. Interesting though

[banivani]

I say skedule and have Irish heritage but have grown up abroad. Im honestly not sure if it’s American influence or common in Ireland but I think the latter? I think dr Geoff Lindsey talks about it in one of his videos but in passing. It might be this one but I’m not sure.

[Magpiecomplex]

One of my students recently wrote it as shedule (no c) and pronounced it skedule, which I found interesting.

[NeverDropYourMooncup]

@Keepithidden

I have a similar problem with 'lieutenant'. Native English speaker and trainee pedant! I know one is English and one American but never remember which one is which.

The French Leftenant's Woman - English

Lootenant Columbo - American


Frankenstein brings Adam/The Creature to life in his la-bor-a-tory, speaking in an English accent and filmed in black and white (we'll ignore the fact he's Genovese born in Naples and modelled upon the author's English husband).

Bobby 'Boris' Pickett and the Cryptkicker Five did The Monster Mash with the ghouls coming from his labra-tory in the castle east to the master bedroom where the vampires feast to get a jolt from his electrodes.

[Schmutter]

As others have said. UK pronunciation is shedule. But my kids, like others, say the American skedule 🤨

[WomensLandArmy]

@bottolololcks

For the one who judge silently: do you silently judge non native speakers too?

No, because that would make me a twat.
HTH

[Workinghardeveryday]

@Marynotsocontrary

This.

Also agree. In my first office job years ago I was pulled up for pronouncing it the American way as I am not American they wondered why 😬

[bottolololcks]

For the one who judge silently: do you silently judge non native speakers too?