Teens to France?

[Northernlass99]

So with the change to quarantine announced we have been asked by our travel company if we want to go ahead with our trip to a gite in France, which we had previously cancelled.

Yes we do! But the issue is we are taking five teens who won't be vaccinated. Under 11s are exempt from any vaccination requirements but it is not clear about teens on entry/arrival in France.

I am finding conflicting information. Can anyone help?

[churchroad]

yes that's correct and you will need code with your prebooked day 2 PCRs

[mommydragonn]

I was gonna ask about passenger locator form... it is to be completed 48 hours before entry into uk. Don't think it is needed upon departure from UK.

[churchroad]

One more thing:

Regardless of your vaccination status, travellers from the UK must provide a completed ‘sworn statement’ (déclaration sur l’honneur) form self-certifying they are not suffering from symptoms associated with coronavirus and have not been in contact with confirmed cases in the preceding fortnight. This can be found on the French government’s website. This should be printed before travel to ensure you have at least one hard copy.
www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actualites/L-actu-du-Ministere/Certificate-of-international-travel
UK is an amber country and you need the English declaration for travelling to France.

[mommydragonn]

@churchroad

Yes the NHS app is fine. I downloaded the certificate direct from the app and scanned the QR for vaccination 2 into Tous Anti Covid. It gives you a thumbs up and confetti. You may well be asked for it. I'd take a paper copy too. They may ask for it at border control.

Thank you.

[churchroad]

Yes the NHS app is fine. I downloaded the certificate direct from the app and scanned the QR for vaccination 2 into Tous Anti Covid. It gives you a thumbs up and confetti. You may well be asked for it. I'd take a paper copy too. They may ask for it at border control.

[mommydragonn]

Will the Qr code from NHS app be sufficient for proof of vaccination? Or do I need to request a full certificate. I am referring to the codes with 30 days validity.

[mommydragonn]

My DC are 5 and 7... thanks I had missed to check their requirements for return back to Uk... will look into it now.

[churchroad]

By the way you should download TousAntiCovid app and ensure you have scanned your NHS QR code into it as France has a vaccine passport system for many restaurants, hotels etc.
If you are coming from Scotland/NI apparently a solution is imminent.

[churchroad]

Yes, adults fully vaccinated need nothing
12+ need a PCR or (more likely) LFT not self administered within 24h before travel (if travelling with fully vaccinated parents)
U12 need nothing with fully vaccinated parents

LFT within 72h before returning to UK for all aged 11+
Day 2 amber tests for all 4+

[mommydragonn]

Now that France will be on the Amber list for Uk from 8th August, and adults are fully vaccinated, I gather from UK and French gov websites, that all we need is proof of vaccination, negative test pre-departure for UK, and day 2 test in UK. No isolation in either countries. We are traveling with minors. Please let me know if I have missed anything. Thank you.

[notimagain]

Bad news for some here and the travel industry..

As discussed in another thread given the percentage of overall cases that are of the beta variant in France have been dropping in the last week or two the timing of the decision is a bit

[newmum1976]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57869880?fbclid=IwAR2JQK3gEPbve8FTpO-usqwB632JDOpVF2UQedIPI3Akd8vzejUp6GShbuI

[OrangeBlossom28]

There's a useful thread about France and the red list elsewhere on MN (apologies if the link doesn't work)
Is France headed for Red status? www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4297943-Is-France-headed-for-Red-status

[notimagain]

Looks at the relative cases numbers we’ve seen over the last few weeks UK vs France, considers that even given those numbers fully vaccinated British resident adults can still enter France from the UK sans isolation and goes..

[newmum1976]

Anybody seen the full article?? Talks about France turning red 😱 www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/07/15/government-considers-putting-france-red-list-beta-variant-fears/?fbclid=IwAR1f2_u1Q7ImVa6q2BKZwGFFbiwsJZpKlGj3PYGV9plwCOoOp8nOegHa284#comment

[Karwomannghia]

Everything crossed for you!

[Northernlass99]

Yes it’s all a massive risk and stressful. No way we would be doing this if it hadn’t already been booked for two years and were worried some family won’t be able to come if we postpone again. Giving me headaches. I hope it’s worth it!!

[notimagain]

If you test positive in France you are meant to isolate in place and for the Brits the generic UK FCO advice is that “You must have proof of a negative COVID-19 test to travel to England from abroad”…

www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-for-people-travelling-to-england

There is mention there of the £500 fine.

[Silkiecats]

Eurotunnel says you need a negative test to get back to UK or you get a £500 fine www.eurotunnel.com/uk/travelling-with-us/latest/covid-19/#cafo

[Silkiecats]

I think you normally isolate in the country you are in. I wouldn't have thought you would be allowed on a plane or ferry/Eurotunnel if you tested positive though I don't know if they check or just trust people.

travelhealthpro.org.uk/news/499/novel-coronavirus-covid-19-general-advice-for-travellers

[stringbean]

Dh seems to think you'd be allowed back to the UK if you tested positive prior to leaving France, and then have to isolate at home, but I'm not so sure. Can't find anything concrete on this though - can anyone advise?

[Karwomannghia]

I’ve cancelled our trip with teenagers- I’d got my head around the testing thing and the cost but then thought about the next step from that which was the possibility of one of us testing positive from one of the 3 tests each and the nightmare that would cause- either trip cancelled the day before losing all the money, being stuck abroad having to isolate and the costs of that, or having to isolate after returning. Testing positive at the moment is quite possible with the massive surge in cases. It’s not just paying and testing it’s dealing with the aftermath.

[stringbean]

That's interesting @Notimagain - will see if I can find anything more about that: guess there will be a bit more info in the coming days.

@northernlass99 - yes, the 17/18 yr old will need to quarantine on return, but we're back in enough time that it won't impact starting uni. I had read that they won't be refused entry, so that's reassuring.

What happens if you test positive prior to your return though? Do you have to stay and isolate in France?

[notimagain]

According to media sources (TV) the health pass requirement for 12-17 year olds will now come into effect end of August (i.e. some back pedaling has gone on)…..

[Northernlass99]

For the 17-18 year old, I have read that you can't be refused re-entry to your own country. But I suppose they might have to quarantine on return if not vaccinated.

We are not bothered about going out too much, we have our own gite. But it would be nice to go to a restaurant for lunch. I wonder if our NHS app and print out would be sufficient?