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Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry

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ArabellaScott · 24/03/2021 13:37

bylinetimes.com/2021/03/22/uncomfortable-conversations-need-to-be-had-about-why-murder-of-two-black-sisters-hardly-made-the-news-says-mp/

Article including quotes from Dawn Butler.

Noting that the man accused of killing the sisters is due a trial in June. Please be mindful if commenting that the case is pending.

This was a horribly upsetting crime, but I remember at the time how fast it seemed to slip out of the news.

Hard topics to discuss sensitively, but I thought it might be a relevant article.

OP posts:
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elgreco · 03/11/2021 19:07

Glad to see they have been found guilty. Poor women, both daughters and mother. Murder was horrible, they deserved to be respected.

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powershowerforanhour · 02/11/2021 20:09

What a dignified, powerful, truthful interview from Bibaa and Nicole's mother.

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BrandineDelRoy · 02/11/2021 19:42

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/police-officers-admit-taking-pictures-of-murdered-sisters-bodies-qkngdpqzl

I don't see that this has been shared yet, but I'm glad the press are naming these guys.

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hoodathunkit · 22/10/2021 12:29

Am running late

The point I am making in these posts is that

  1. Anyone interested in studying these networks needs to follow the money. There are multiple revenue streams and the money trail is important
  2. Indicators of concern include businesses selling supernatural skills and or items
  3. Such businesses harvest data and identify vulnerable persons who can then be groomed, brainwshed and manipulated into committing crimes
  4. Any real spiritual person will not be operating a business selling spiritual enlightenment / powers / items. Paying money for supernatural items and supernaturally themed training courses (online or IRL) will end up with you being on a sucker list
  5. Re 4 - the person selling supernatural items or educational / empowerment courses may be well meaning. However even if they are a good person their customer data will be of interest to criminals who will likely find a way to access it


I remember discussing the use of supernatural threats in relation to sex trafficking with a former cop who is an expert in the grooming and sex trafficking of vulnerable women of West African descent via the use of supernatural threats.

The expert opinied that women would never fall for these kinds of threats in the UK.

He was wrong about that.
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hoodathunkit · 22/10/2021 11:55

I will now post about a person with a possible network connection to the murderer Danyal Hussein.

This person and their partner identify as members of the LGBT community, one of them IDs at trans I do not know about the other so I will refer to them using “they” pronouns as I am unsure of the sex of one of them. I do not know whether these people are vulnerable and exploited / victims, perpetrators or, as often happens in cults, both. Please do not harass these people. Also, it may be dangerous to contact these people.

The below video is of interest on a number of levels

Spirit keeping is evil | The truth will shock you



@ 2:39 they claim to work with a variety of “psychopomps” Anubis, Hecate, Damballa, 7 powers, and at 2:48 they claim to work with Paimon (a demon whose sigil Danyal Hussein had drawn, as evidenced in the photos in UK news sources.

The person in the video goes by the name of Alduin Royeaux and claims to be a “shamanic demonologist”

I became aware of their videos and websites when they made an “unboxing” video praising the supernatural items for sale by the notorious criminal network Creepy Hollows.

Here is another video linking this person to Creepy Hollows
Creepy Holows Rare Spirit update | The Rikabash species & possession in the SK community
Good day folks, in this spirit keeping video we discuss the Bonding experience with a rare spirit from creepyhollows.com known as a Rikabash. We describe the being's food preferences, traits and abilities. We also touch on possession in the spirit keeping community.


@ 5:10 The Rickabash is actually valued at $1,500 but Creepy Hollows has a sale where the spirit contract is $70. CH only have a limited amount of these rare spirits so hurry hurry buy yours now, yada yada


His introductory video is here and is interesting on a number of levels, the accompanying text reads as follows

Hey folks I’m Alduin a shamanic Demonologist. This channel focuses on Paranormal self defense. Please share this channel with anyone who you think needs more protection. If you or someone you love are dealing with a hunting or other dangerous situation please get in contact with me via my website.


Of interest re the above video
He claims to teach “psychic self-defence” and has 2 (probably fake) katanas on the wall in the background. I have seen this before in life coaches and “teachers” of the notorious OC network Ashram Shambala (AS)
The video has an AS indicator (tree of life) at the beginning of the video and in the lower right corner throughout
He says “some of you may know me from the Pagan Perspective” (recently closed down). I found the pagan Perspective YT channel and it has a goodbye video from Aludin. It can be seen here important reference @ 6:25 to working with seals from Solomon’s time (possible network connection to Daniyal Hussain) also changing “my name from JD to Alduin” @ 9:35 he praises Creepy Hollows for their reasonable prices

Website links here:

www.kaijumgt.com/" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210811091541/www.kaijumgt.com/
www.kaijumgt.com/spirit-keeping" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210811091631/www.kaijumgt.com/spirit-keeping
www.kaijumgt.com/services" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210811091921/www.kaijumgt.com/services
www.kaijumgt.com/forum" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210811094647/www.kaijumgt.com/forum
www.kaijumgt.com/post/exclusive-influence-and-money-growth" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210811093553/www.kaijumgt.com/post/exclusive-influence-and-money-growth
www.kaijumgt.com/tarot-services" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210811092911/www.kaijumgt.com/tarot-services

Purveyors of a variety of supernatural tat and snake oil
www.kaijumgt.com/shop" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210811092006/www.kaijumgt.com/shop
e.g.
www.kaijumgt.com/product-page/cash-flow-spell" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210811094315/www.kaijumgt.com/product-page/cash-flow-spell
www.kaijumgt.com/product-page/cupid-call" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210811092858/www.kaijumgt.com/product-page/cupid-call
also this
Not for the lighthearted, this working will help spirit keepers sense members of their keep on a deeper level. During our private testing users received vivid dreams, audible voices, or witnessed streaks and shadows when interacting with members of their keep. This is a must have for any serious-minded spirit keeper.
www.kaijumgt.com/product-page/keeper-s-boost" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210811094239/www.kaijumgt.com/product-page/keeper-s-boost

If there’s something weird in ya’ll neighbourhood, Who ya gonna call? This grifter apparently

We are a team of discreet, professional, and effective Demonologist. We are not Ghost hunters or hobbyists.

We specialize in dealing with both human and inhuman infestations, in and around the problem property. We should not be your first call.

We preform cleansing on businesses, homes, and vehicles of virtually (any size and condition). Our methods are proven, and the results are lasting. If this sounds like the sort of help that you need then contact us to set up an appointment. We are open to in person and Video calls. Help is just moments away why not contact us today?
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Pathfinder - Spiritual life coaching powered by spirit keeping. Or something
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hoodathunkit · 22/10/2021 11:41

Back to Koetting for a moment

Koetting’s YT channel includes this video of 2 females promoting supernatural tat and discussing reverse baptism (apparently this involves pouring pig’s blood over a bible - I am not a Christian but I find this extremely offensive, just as I find the desecration of the Q’ran to be offensive - I am not a Muslim I just don't think it is a good thing to desecrate other people's sacred items)

anyway video here



*@00*:04:00 you get a “Satan’s coin” as part of the ritual )(an “add on” - more money? - similar coins sell for $40 in the below linked Etsy shop)
*@00*:06:20 a range of supernatural tat is introduced starting with a resin pyramid and including tiny bottles of “slut water”.

The presenters enthuse about the opportunity to buy pre-consecrated items that have been subjected to blood sacrifice prior purchase. Because who would’t want a pre-consecrated, pre-blood-sacrificed resin pyramid or resin encased “Satan coin”??


Etsy shop linked to the video here
www.etsy.com/shop/LimitlessLiberation

Not quite as bad as Creepy Hollows, "Mrs Gula" , Haunted Curiosities et al but possibly an initial purchase leads to invitations to buy special, more expensive items

Anyone signing up for a subscription to Koetting's pseudo-educational business or buying supernatual blood dipped resin pyramids from these kinds of sellers of mystic tat is likely to be on a "sucker list" and to be subjected to all manner of exploitation, because, well obviously, we have to ask "what kind of disturbed, vulnerable, deluded person would pay good money for such things?"
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hoodathunkit · 22/10/2021 11:26

going back to the debunking video that I posted about earlier titled
"The Fake Guru of Satanism: E.A. Koetting"

@ 00:02:18 the video encourages viewers to check out a video, Mike Winnet’s Contropreneur Formula

With this in mind I have included a link to Mike Winnet’s original video. I am familiar with the video and the themes it explores and would recommend it highly here it is



The themes explored in the video are highly relevant to anyone wishing to understand cultic grooming, manipulation and radicalisation. For your convenience I will include the salient points, most relevant to the MO of such cultic networks, as I understand it, in writing here. They are as follows;

The Promise

@ 00:04:15 Winnet describes the foundations of the Contropreneur Formula which he says are making promises to be able to fast-track access to the following;
wealth
health
happiness

I would add a 4 and 5 to the list which would be
  1. sex / intimacy

and
  1. supernatural / superhuman / genius abilities either for yourself or for your child


The promise of wealth (winning the lottery) and success with women are evidenced in the connections between Daniyal Hussein and Koetting's appalling online pseudo-educational business

Shaming into compliance and conformity

@ 00:05:42 Winnet describes an event early in a contropreneur event in which participants who do not raise their hand, in answer to the question “who wants more money?” are embarrassed into subsequent enthusiastic hand raising by singling them out and shaming them. This manipulation of compliance by group shaming is a common feature of cults in general and LGATs in particular. There is more to add about the issue of social compliance / conformity and cults but I do not want to digress too far from the video.

The Bullshit Backstory

This is one of the most important indicators of contropreneurs and new age grifters in my experience. It also serves to act as a shield to prevent and deflect criticism if the backstory involved real or false claims of victimhood.

When the promise on offer is of wealth / riches the backstory will involve history of poverty, disadvantage and oppression.

When the promise is of empowerment and personal development, especially in relation to trauma (as is often the case) the backstory will typically involve history adverse life experiences including of horrific child abuse. Such histories may be true, partially true or entirely fabricated for the purposes of the grift. Such backstories serve to deflect critical / skeptical appraisal of the grift/er. The extremely ruthless actors at the top of the pyramid typically recruit vulnerable people with histories of child sexual abuse, addictions, serious mental health problems and then brainwash them and exploit them to commit crimes.

They also recruit people who have suffered multi-generational oppression and state servants, including law enforcement officers, who have suffered vicarious trauma in the course of their work. These sinister actors use new age and supernatural themed therapies, especially body / somatic psychotherapy in order to groom, recruit and manipulate state servants. This is an extremely important and sensitive issue that I will write more about later.

Running late now more soon
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hoodathunkit · 22/10/2021 10:32

I still have some further stuff to post about these appalling murders

Just wanted to report one piece of good news

Koetting has been kicked off of facebook - let's hope that other social media platforms follow

www.vice.com/en/article/3ab85v/facebook-just-booted-a-satanist-accused-of-inspiring-a-man-to-kill-two-women

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hoodathunkit · 19/08/2021 15:27

Further info on E A Koetting (real name Matthew Joseph Lawrence)

www.reddit.com/r/occult/comments/2n6nsv/ea_koetting_and_wife_arrested_for_guns_and_dope/

Matthew Joseph Lawrence, 538 W. Los Alamitos Drive, St. George, was arrested Friday on five charges of possession of drugs and one count each of being a restricted possessor of a firearm and possession of drug paraphernalia. Lawrence was booked into Purgatory Correctional Facility on $31,174 bail.

archive.is/l607y#selection-447.2-447.300

eu.thespectrum.com/story/news/local/2014/11/18/task-force-arrests-roommates-drug-charges/19248063/

some fascinating archived links to Koetting's website

Koetting’s website is here
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210102022000/www.becomealivinggod.com/" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210102022000/www.becomealivinggod.com/
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210225024154/www.becomealivinggod.com/asbjorntorvol/shamanism" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210225024154/www.becomealivinggod.com/asbjorntorvol/shamanism
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210225025048/www.becomealivinggod.com/blackmagick" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210225025048/www.becomealivinggod.com/blackmagick
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210118112539/www.becomealivinggod.com/courses/" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210118112539/www.becomealivinggod.com/courses/
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210118100703/www.becomealivinggod.com/magick-circles/" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210118100703/www.becomealivinggod.com/magick-circles/
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201205000850/www.becomealivinggod.com/apocalypse" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20201205000850/www.becomealivinggod.com/apocalypse
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210225021334/www.becomealivinggod.com/asenathmason/harlot" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210225021334/www.becomealivinggod.com/asenathmason/harlot

also see
opencorporates.com/companies/us_ut/9234560-0160

Koetting's YT channel

www.youtube.com/c/EAKoetting/videos

More later

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hoodathunkit · 19/08/2021 15:20

apologies, posted the same video twice in error

The Fake Guru of Satanism:



highly recommended for those whose interest in the acquisition of knowledge is greater that their need not to be traumatised by horrific facts about criminal exploiters of the vulnerable
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hoodathunkit · 19/08/2021 15:18

an update

The BBC has uncovered new evidence about the teenage killer of Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman, the two sisters murdered last summer in a Wembley park in London.
Danyal Hussein was a member of a web forum, run by an American self-styled black magician, whose instructions about demonic pacts mirror steps taken by the killer.
The American has encouraged murder in some of his writings, including for a violent Satanic group that’s been cited as an influence on seven young men convicted of neo-Nazi terror offences in the UK over the past two years.
The BBC’s Daniel De Simone has been investigating the background.
Video journalist: Alex Dackevych
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-58191473

further details (WARNING important yet extremely disturbing information)

I highly recommend the videos below that were created by a woman with an in depth knowlegde of EA Koetting and who took the time to read his books. The woman who made the videos knows a lot more about EA Koetting, than I do (I had never heard of him prior to the BBC article) however I have been researching other, similar, actors for some years and will post soon with some information that readers may find useful in terms of indicators / themes that may be helpful in terms of identifying these kinds of predatory criminals

The Fake Guru of Satanism:



and

EA Koetting Probably Radicalized a Teenager


I should point out that many people who identify as satanists abhor violence against anyone, do not engange in blood sacrifice (let alone human sacrifice) and some satanists are activists against criminals and abusers such as EA Koetting
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hoodathunkit · 16/07/2021 06:45

Are the media going to address Incel violence or was he a lone wolf again?

These are not the only possibilities.

As someone who researches cults I feel it is important that people understand that there are multiple networks on the dark web and even on the plain old www that use supernatural themes, including magic / magick to groom, recruit and manipulate vulnerable adults into committing terrible crimes.

Many of these cults are extremely misogynist, many are involved in sex and labour trafficking and other serious crimes.

One of the most important issues to understand regarding Hussein's motives, IMO, is whether he acted alone or whether he was groomed, recruited and exploited by a criminal network.

I feel somewhat despairing when I read about the alleged "satanic" elements of thes appalling murders. I do not believe it is helpful to label such a crime as "satanic" unless one has evidence of such.

Clearly there is evidence of Hussein being involved with what he believes to be supernarural beings (demons) however this does not necessarly indicate that his actions were satanic, unless one uses a very broad and unhelpful defenition of the term.

I would sugges that any readers who wish to help the police to learn more about Hussein's contacts on the dark web (obvioulsy this is centrally important to discovering his motives and protecting other women from violence and murder) may wish to campaign for the privacy laws preventing the police from accessing Hussein's online activity to be repealed in or overturned in serous circumstances such as this.

Readers familiar with my posts about cults will also be familiar with some of the notorious actors involved in privacy activism, actors such as this man

www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/privacy-expert-arrested-over-historic-child-sex-abuse-returns-to-australia-after-covid-delayed-extradition-20210424-p57m0q.html

Of course privacy is important, so are human rights. Unfortunately both privacy and human rights legislation can be abused by criminals and there needs to be a balance.

It is outrageous that a situation can occur whereby, in the wake of unspeakably terrible crimes like the murders of Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman, the police's investigations are hindered severely by privacy laws protecting the perpetrator and his associates.

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BrandineDelRoy · 12/07/2021 07:32

I'm not in the UK, but is there any momentum there to protest that this atrocity is an example of why misogyny should be a hate crime? He was clearly targeting women.

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PhilSwagielka · 10/07/2021 21:37

I owe PatricksRum and BMN big time, because I found out about the deaths of Nicole and Bibaa through them. I don't know what's more horrifying, the reason they were killed or the way the police handled their bodies. Took photos with them. Even in death they had no peace.

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AlexaShutUp · 09/07/2021 14:15

@skeggycaggy

Their mother, who is a C of E deacon btw, identified the response as racist & classist. She is very articulate (as you’d expect from a vicar!).

She is amazing, actually. So measured and thoughtful as well as being incredibly articulate. That poor, poor woman - I can't begin to imagine what she has been through with losing two daughters in such horrific circumstances and having to deal with the police failures on top of all of that.
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ScreamingMeMe · 09/07/2021 14:12

@Lessthanaballpark

But where is the media focus on sex-based violence?

He’s literally stated that he hated women but there will be no media analysis of misogyny.

Nope. They're more interested in the "satanism" angle. Funny that satan told him to killy women only, huh?
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Lessthanaballpark · 07/07/2021 21:24

But where is the media focus on sex-based violence?

He’s literally stated that he hated women but there will be no media analysis of misogyny.

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Frownette · 07/07/2021 15:00

I was looking for a thread on this but couldn't find one so came over to feminism to check, glad one was started.

It defies belief that the police were so slow to react and that boyfriend of younger sister found the bodies. And that the policemen who were 'guarding' them took photos and haven't been sacked. It's entirely feasible that this person might have gone on to commit other murders.

Family have been so dignified but I can't imagine their grief, especially as the circumstances were so bizarre

Really feel for them. This man wouldn't have attacked a man, would he? Makes me so angry. And they were just dancing around having fun.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/07/2021 11:47

From the radio reports it sounds like a woman / sex based hate crime. He wanted to kill women only.

YY. Those poor women.

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Thornyrose7 · 07/07/2021 11:18

Mina Smallman who is the mother of Bibaa and Nicole was talking about the case on Radio 4. It really struck me how amazingly brave and inspirational she is. She sounds so strong and articulate. I have the upmost admiration for this woman after all she has been through, she is awesome.
This case has disturbed me like no other. Absolutely sickening.

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sashagabadon · 07/07/2021 08:50

From the radio reports it sounds like a woman / sex based hate crime. He wanted to kill women only.
I’m glad the sisters family had justice and the investigation was good and caught the right man. It was a very disturbing crime.
RIP

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Lessthanaballpark · 07/07/2021 08:45

“Six women every six months” because he couldn’t find a girlfriend

That was each goal.

Are the media going to address Incel violence or was he a lone wolf again?

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StillWeRise · 06/07/2021 22:13

this was discussed by some friends tonight and one woman had heard it reported that he had schizophrenia, I've just looked at the report in the guardian, but no mention of it there. I think it is relevant to have the background reported, apparently he was 'radicalised' on the dark web, and was referred to Prevent.

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PaleGreenGhost · 06/07/2021 21:35

I'm so uncomfortable with the way the reasons for crimes like this are reported.

Does the twisted thinking behind homophobic or racist attacks get publicised? Genuine question?

It feels like giving more voice to the disgusting prick who silenced these two women forever.

It feels as if it validates the reasons. Isn't that why anyone gives a reason for a crime, to mitigate it somehow? I think a line gets crossed often with the murder of women, but perhaps we're desensitised to it all.

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BraveBananaBadge · 06/07/2021 19:46

While a guilty verdict is a comfort, the background detail is simply beyond belief - somehow almost worse than when we knew nothing as to why. Those poor women.

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