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Holiday entitlement for P/T work

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Gottabesomethingbetterthanthis · 21/06/2022 18:53

Being incredibly dimwitted here but I can't work out holiday entitlement for a part-time role.

If it were a full time it would be 20 days + 8 bank holidays

The part time role is working 3 hours per day, 5 days per week. How much holiday therefore would I be entitled to a) For the first year (accruing, starting next month - holiday year runs 1st April to 31st March) and b) Total for full year?

I've been told it will be 8 days per year but my simple brain can't seem to get around this as the role would be working 5 days a week (albeit it just 3 hours per day). If anyone has the calculations for this, I'd really appreciate the breakdown.

Thanks!

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oldageprancer · 21/06/2022 18:56

your holiday entitlement needs to be calculated as hours not days.

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ChessieFL · 21/06/2022 19:02

Assuming that the FT people also work 5 days a week, then your holiday entitlement should also be 28 days. It’s just that when you take a day’s leave it only uses up 3 hours instead of 7.5 (or whatever the FT daily hours are).

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Nolongera · 21/06/2022 19:05

Assuming your company works a 40 hour week, you are entitled to 15/40ths of a full time workers holidays.

By my calculations, 84 hours.

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TheHorrorOfIt · 21/06/2022 19:06

Yes, you need to know what the standard FTE hours are, and then yours will be a percentage of that - but as PPs say, with only 3 hours being used up when you have a day off. Bank holiday allowance will also be accrued pro rata of course

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LesterKnopf · 21/06/2022 19:06

Not sure about bank Holidays, but your annual leave should be worked out in hours, 3x20=60

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devildeepbluesea · 21/06/2022 19:06

If you want your entitlement calculated in hours we need to know the length of a F T day.

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ChessieFL · 21/06/2022 19:06

Otherwise as pp said you need to work it out in hours. So assuming a FT person does 7.5 hours a day their holiday entitlement in hours is 7.5 x 28 = 210. You are working 0.4 of the FT hours so you get 0.4 of the holiday hours or 84 hours. Each time you take a day off you deduct 3 hours from your hourly total. Each time a FT takes a day off they deduct 7.5 hours from their hourly total.

84 hours equates to just over 11 FT days so it looks like their calculations haven’t properly allowed for the bank holidays.

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HforHavana · 21/06/2022 19:07

The gov website has a holiday entitlement calculator: www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement

Based on your info, if you start next month, your holiday entitlement until March 2023 is 63hrs.

In a full year it would be 84hrs.

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LesterKnopf · 21/06/2022 19:08

Then if you are only employed there for half of the current holiday year, you get half an annual leave allowance (so 30 hours / 10 days) to use up between now and the end of the employer's leave year

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dementedpixie · 21/06/2022 19:12

If you work 5 days a week you should still get 28 days annual leave. Your day off will just be a shorter day than full time staff.

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dementedpixie · 21/06/2022 19:15

You dont need to work it in hours if she is working the same number of hours each day over 5 days a week.

If working in hours it would be 15hours x 5.6weeks = 84hours (or 28 of your 3 hours working days).

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MamanDeChoix · 21/06/2022 19:50

So, yes a full year would be 28 of your working days, but the 84 hours includes the paid Bank Holidays, so in reality is 20 of your working days.
So 63 hours this year, assuming that is 21 days, 4 of which are bank Holidays.

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Gottabesomethingbetterthanthis · 22/06/2022 10:40

Thanks for all the comments - a full week's hours would be 37.5 - I would be working just 15 hours over 5 days. Does this help further?

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Comefromaway · 22/06/2022 10:49

Your holiday entitlement is still 20 days plus 8 days bank holidays. It's just that your day as a part-timer is 3 hours whereas a full timer's day is 7.5 hours.

There is no advantage in working it out in hours if you work a set number of hours per day. Working it out in hours is easier for those who might work 7 hours one day and 3 hours the next day.

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Comefromaway · 22/06/2022 10:52

So your pro rata for the year will be

28 days divided by 12 multiplied by 9 months = 21 days

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Gottabesomethingbetterthanthis · 23/06/2022 15:04

So I simply don't understand why he's saying :

*Holidays - 8 days (20 days pro rata) + Bank Holidays

Has he calculated incorrectly?

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 23/06/2022 15:11

Is a full time contract 40 h per week or 37 or 37.5?

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dementedpixie · 23/06/2022 15:11

I dont understand his calculation. Have you asked for their breakdown? Unless he means 8 days x 7.5 hours = 60 hours maybe Confused

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dementedpixie · 23/06/2022 15:12

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 23/06/2022 15:11

Is a full time contract 40 h per week or 37 or 37.5?

She already said its 37.5 hours for full time

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Comefromaway · 23/06/2022 15:12

He's talking in days but thinking in hours I reckon.

So you work 15 hours per week and a full timer works 37.5 hour per week. So when he says 8 days I reckon he means 8 x 7.5 hour days whereas when you take a day holiday you will only use 3 hours out of your allocation.

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PatriciaHolm · 23/06/2022 15:13

He has done a simple 15/37.5 20 calculation, which is 8. Which is correct in terms of full time hour days* = so 8 x 7.5 hours, is your allocation. You course would only need to use 0.4 of each of the these 8 "days" to cover each of your "days" off. `

As others have said it might be easier to explain back to him using hours.

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Comefromaway · 23/06/2022 15:14

You need to point out to him that the legal minimum holiday requirement is 28 days per year (including bank holidays) with each day equalling 3 hours.

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 23/06/2022 15:16

I've just done a back of the fag packet calc, and you basically get 84 hours annual leave (part of which is your bank holiday entitlement) per year.

It comes in as 5.6 weeks leave, which is the same as a full timer. But you work shorter hours each week.

They need to let you allocate leave in batches of hours.

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Ponderingwindow · 23/06/2022 15:16

The way my company does this, it would end up as 20, 3 hour days.

our time is always accrued and used in hours for full and part-time. It makes things much easier to calculate. Plus sometimes people only need to take a partial day off.

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dementedpixie · 23/06/2022 15:20

She'd be entitled to 28 x 3 hour days though not 20 which would give 84 hours which matches the 5.6 weeks x 15 hours calculation (also 84 hours)

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