I don't give a FUCK about Christmas

[AnyFucker]

I know I am not alone in this. It's just another shitty day in this bloody nightmare.

[Lifeisabeach09]

I like Christmas with my DD. I don't like the ' Save Christmas' mantra that is going around.
Whilst I support lockdown, I don't feel it will do any good medium/longterm. We will get the infection rate down, open up again, and then it will increase again. 'Tis the season...

[Fifthtimelucky]

There are normally 9 of us here for Christmas Day. I will happily dispense with the 5 extras (my sister and her family) if I have to, but I will be upset if I cannot see my children, one of whom is a student and the other lives with friends in a flat share in London.

On the bright side, if they cannot come home, their housemates also won't be able to go home so at least they will be with friends rather than alone.

[Noideawottodo]

I normally find Christmas a massive PITA - but funnily enough I am really looking forward to this one. Feels really important and significant to me.

[dontatmebully]

I love Christmas and will try to make it nice for my DC.
However, it is not more important than health and life, so I won't be seeing my elderly parents indoors (or outdoors since they live a couple of hours away).
And I will be annoyed if the government want to laud themselves for 'saving Christmas' by relaxing restrictions if the virus is still circulating at high levels.

[lazylinguist]

I love Christmas. And I suspect that 'people in cushy WFH jobs' are in fact not the only people who will still be looking forward to celebrating Christmas in whatever way they can.

I totally understand why the talk of 'saving Christmas' has enraged people though. Christmas doesn't need saving, and it shouldn't be prioritised over lives and health. People just need to celebrate it (if they want to) within the rules and as their own circumstances currently allow.

You're entitled to not give a fuck about Christmas (and always are), but there is no earthly reason why other people shouldn't continue to find it important, positive or enjoyable.

[RenegadeMrs]

Christmas is the excuse when we all know keeping the hospitals running is the reason (not an unimportant one).

All the Christmas bashing is annoying. I'll be doing something for my children, within what we are able to do. I going to do my best to make it a great end to a shirty year. If you don't want to do anything, then don't do anything, no need to piss on everyone else's bonfire.

[squishee]

I hate this idea that we are doing this now to "save Christmas".

It's all so twee isn't it. Sounds like the title of a bad film.

And if the reward of Christmas is all about mixing with friends and family, it's back to restrictions in early 2021. Lock down and release, rinse and repeat until there's a vaccine.

[PoorMansPaulaRadcliffe]

I agree. But then I feel the same about holidays, and adults who invest in both to such a degree that they are 'devastated', 'crushed' or new MN favourite 'sitting here shaking' if anything happens to derail their plans, are anathema to me.

[PumpkinLove]

If we could have my parents, who live round the corner, and my in-laws who live 5 mins away, that's all I ask.

This is still not getting it!! FFS If the parents and in-laws are couples who live together then there is no need to mix households! Can't people just do this for one year? Surely, households can stay within their own household for Xmas?? Except where single or vulnerable people could be alone, in which case they should be allowed to bubble.

If it helps the R number come down why on earth would people go against this? All this "if we could just meet my parents / in-laws / sister / nephews / insert extended family members here" and "this is all I ask" is part of the problem!!!

Getting the R number down and stopping Covid. This is all I ask.

[ChloeCrocodile]

I don’t care about presents, food, parties etc. But I absolutely love getting together with my family. We can do it any time (and in a normal year it happens reasonably frequently), but Christmas is different because we’re religious and there’s only two days each year we all go to mass together. We missed Easter this year, and I’ll be upset when we miss Christmas too.

Can’t be arsed with the governments “save Christmas” rhetoric tho, because I don’t for a second believe they’ll sanction family gatherings regardless of what we do.

[Torvean32]

Some of us do care about Christmas. I just want a simple day with my dad. I've seen nobody all year. Seeing my dad is what keeps me going.

[ozymandiusking]

Foregetmenot and moiras roses
I agree with both of you. Of all years, this is one where we must try our best to make Christmas happen. If you have children make cookies cakes, decorate your tree etc. etc. If you can visit an elderly parent or Grandma locally and chat from the garden do.
If you think of old stories and films where people were poor or at war or under siege I'm sure you get the picture, they all did their best to celebrate Christmas and give the smallest gifts.
If your parents made Christmas happen for you and your grandparents, perhaps we have a duty to do that as well.

[Toothsil]

@Summerfreeze

I don't get making Christmas such a big THING anyway. Christmas ads coming out in November etc. It's all a bit silly. Maybe this year will force us to take stock and step back from the whole commercial nonsense side of it. I do understand people wanting to see families but as long as people aren't actually alone for Christmas (who don't want to be I mean), I don't think we need to be prioritising the big table and crackers for 12 etc.

Exactly this. If we could have my parents, who live round the corner, and my in-laws who live 5 mins away, that's all I ask. I'd love to see my brother, SIL, niece and nephew but they live at the other end of the country and we are used to not always seeing them at christmas. But just our local parents would be perfect.

[Cherrysherbet]

I feel sorry for the children who won’t be having a nice time this Christmas because of parents being out of work.

[EmeraldShamrock]

@Dragonglass In your situation it is important you are together.

[PumpkinLove]

@Dragonglass I very much doubt the gov could or would insist on single people remaining alone for Christmas.

The question is whether they will make the case that nuclear families should remain within their households (other than bubbling with single / potentially vulnerable people). This is not the year for parties with extended family and friends, unless on Zoom.

[AnyFucker]

Are you the Grinch? Yes I am.

@Dragonglass it's not too much to ask at any time.

[Dragonglass]

I care that I have adult children who live in other parts of the country, who shouldn't be alone at Christmas. 1 daughter lives with her boyfriend so I'm not too worried about her but the others live alone. 1 already has mental health issues. The other lives in a tiny flat and is wfh so is very isolated.
I want them to be able to come home for a few days, is that so much to ask?

[Fawnfour]

Love Christmas, the best time of the year, we will have our little lockdown Christmas all on our own, cant wait
Yes it's sad that we may not see parents or brothers and sisters act...
But that will definitely not dampen my Christmas

[majesticallyawkward]

@Mummyme87 I hope you get to your family! I'm hoping to head to Newcastle to be with family too, although I'm much closer in tees valley so it's not the end of the world if it's a flying visit outside.

I agree that schools should stay open but universities go online other than placements or where they need to be physically present. The data suggests primary schools in particular aren't the death camps they are being touted as on MN.

[WhentheDealGoesDown]

I used to like it as it was a few days off work but now I’m retired I’m not really bothered, we never make a big thing of it anyway.

[Plussizejumpsuit]

Like fuck is Christmas just for kids. How miserable.

[HeronLanyon]

I agree op. But I’ve lost both parents recently and to be honest I don’t need any big ‘thing’ to remind me they e gone.
However if I had young children or parents still I’d be desperate to see them - no need for anything mega but a laugh and hugging with family would be brilliant.

[EmeraldShamrock]

I'm going to fake it for the DC.
I'm not looking forward to it so much has changed this year it is not over yet.

[Morsmordre]

@AnyFucker

I hate Christmas every year but having it dangled tantalisingly like some wonderful gift if we all behave is really pissing me off

Are you the Grinch? 🤔