Nanny was fuming last night! Kids been badly behaved!!

[ziopin]

I got home last night to see a very stone faced nanny!

My kids (4 & 2) were sat quietly by the table looking very guilty!

My nanny being 32 weeks pregnant was complaining that the children were really badly behaved during the day, not listening to her etc.

My two year old son had been saying that he would hit her (he didn't by the way!) and my daughter (who is going through a real cow stage) would not listen to her in play group.

She was saying that she would not tolerate such behaviour, and was being really mean. I do admit that my kids are no angels, but its difficult to listen to others putting them down!

I completely lost patients within 10 minutes, my kids were crying, and I told nanny to just go home, must admit I was a bit cross but I dont think she realised it.

Later in the evening I read through the daily diary. She wrote dd's behaviour was terrible, we left as she spoilt it for everyone again!

I'm bloody livid!

[mozhe]

I think I'd rather DH left than the nanny....( joke...I thnk)

[Eleusis]

Well, mine is leaving week after next, so next week will have to be someone else.

[ziopin]

LOL xx

[Eleusis]

Right, so that's Peahead and Ziopin's nannies sacked in two weeks. Who wants to let their nanny go next week? I'm sure mumsnet can help you.

[PinkChick]

TBH, i dont think she wants to work for you any more.
not saying its anything youve done, but the day you start acting like that regardless of hormones and then keep it bubbling until the next morning, theres something wrong..theyre 2 and 4 FGS, shes in the wrong proffesion!

[CarGirl]

Good luck, I really do think her current position is redundant she must see that is on the cards anyway and her relationship with your children is not sounding pleasant at the moment at all!

[ziopin]

Thanks for all your brilliant comments as always. Have arranged with DH to come home early from work tomorrow to take DC's out!

Must have a serious chat with her, and not be such a wimp!!

[NannyClaire]

Oh she sounds really awkward! I saw fifilou post this in the other thread:

"A woman returning from Ordinary Maternity Leave is legally entitled to return to the same job, on the same terms and conditions, as if she had not been absent.

The only exception to this would be if a redundancy situation had arisen, in which case she is entitled to be offered suitable alternative employment."

Now, her pregnancy has coincided with a redundancy situation as you don't need as many hours - DS is starting school, which would be a valid reason to change the hours and terms of the job. Jura said rightly, it's your circumstances that are changing, not hers - it has nothing to do with pregnancy, it just so happens that not being allowed to bring the baby with her is one more thing that could dissuade her from accepting the new job from you!

I don't think she holds all the cards at all, ziopin, I think you should be the one dashing down the CAB to make yourself feel better about what needs to be done!!


By the way, she seems to have completely undone the "but she gets on so well with the children" argument for keeping her!!

[PinkChick]

remember to write down/log these probs as if you do give her notice, she cant screw you for unfair dismissal!

[fifilou]

NaB3- Few! sometimes so many wires get crossed here as the threads get so long that its toooooo much to read!

ziopin, let us know how it goes! I wish you all the luck. I think a sit down chat is in order. could your DH look out for the children while you two have a coffee (oops no caffeine shes pregnant) a decaff coffee and a chat?

I always have a talk with my employers when theres an issue that needs discussing. Its the only way. I would rather hear if I'd done something wrong that they werent happy about than not at all.

How will she develope as a nanny if she doesnt know what shes been doing wrong?

Ah go on! Be brave!

[NAB3]

Got it.

[fifilou]

NAB3 - I was agreeing with another poster, if you had read any of my other comments you may have seen I'm offering words of support for ziopin, suggesting she does let her go, and that the nanny indeed, is doing a poor job.

[NKF]

Would you mind if you were paid off? Effectively paid but didn't need to work. That would be okay surely.

[NAB3]

Definitely don't allow her to come back with the baby!! Time for a fresh start I think. Good luck.

[NAB3]

fifilou on Thu 14-Jun-07 10:52:10
"i agree, you have to tread carefully, I think I wouldnt be best pleased if asked to start my maternity leave early either!"

Well, she should do her job properly then!!

Your children are unhappy. Is that less important than you letting her go earlier?

[NAB3]

Have only read the OP. I used to be a nanny and I would never have written anything bad in the children's diary. That is for when they are older and having nice memories. I think the nanny sounds like she is finding it harder to cope with being 32 weeks pregnant.

[fifilou]

OMG! I didnt realise it was the P&*& taking nanny............ time to let her go!

Why are you giving her so many chances when she claerly cannot do the job? Ziopin, there are so many nice nannies arund, you really should have a long hard think whether its worth all the hassle youve had with her?

I'm sure she is hormonal, tired etc, but at the end of the day, she employed to work as your nanny, to do a good job no matter what, if shes not doing the job properly, its not fair on you or your children.

If shes snappy now, whats she going to be like in another 3-4 wks?

[CarGirl]

also realised that you would have time it and co-ordinate it with the job the "temp" nanny will be doing from September which would then add weight to making the full time nanny position redundant IYSWIM

[CarGirl]

just read the other thread.

It would seem to me that you should make her redundant as of 1st September offering her the new part time job as you have to (without bringing own child) also adding to the new part time nanny job housework tasks, restrictions on mileage etc - tightening where there have been issues before and hope she takes the reundnacy.....

I assume what I've just suggested is legal

[GameGirly]

You're right, Eluesis. If you already have your doubts, Ziopin, then she isn't the right person to be looking after your most precious possessions.

[NKF]

Nanny's had enough by the sounds of it. I'd pay her off early and get a new one. Forget all that coming back and bringing the baby. Who needs it?

[Eleusis]

I would not tell her before she begins maternity leave beause I think she will take it out on you and/or your kids. But, I would tell her soonish after she begins maternity leave -- maybe wait until after she has the baby. I don't think it's fair to let her go for a long time thinking she has a job she doesn't have.

Sign nothing. And put nothing in writing!!!

She has a right to her old job. She does not have a right to bring the baby with her.

She is a bad nanny and your lovely children deserve better.

[NKF]

I would have thought that bringing a baby meant re-drafting the contract. And personally, I would only do it for a nanny that the children adored, someone I was really keen not to lose.

[Eleusis]

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