No snorers allowed camping

[Franklyfrost]

Just that.

Having finally managed to get to sleep on our mysteriously but persistently deflating air mattress someone in the field next door wakes me up making a noise like a food processor being turned on and off. I have young kids in the tent with me and older kids in the tent text door so I can’t wear eye plugs. It’s a family campsite so it’s not just me who won’t be able to wear ear plugs. Just don’t go camping near others if you snore. They must know they snore because they’re not pitched up alone, so their party must all have come prepared with earplugs.

YABU camping is for everyone, you can’t discriminate
YANBU camping is not for someone who makes a really loud noise all night long to show off how well they’re sleeping while stopping anyone else from getting what rest they can

[grannycake]

I snore, I weigh 7 stone 10lbs, have no tonsils and no medical issues. I also camp. I get noise is annoying which is why we always take earplugs. I can cope with babies, dogs and even snoring - I reserve my real hatred for the one with a guitar who think we all want to hear him (or her)

[Movingsoon21]

YABVU to go camping at a campsite in August and not expect noise from other campers. Especially so to not wear ear plugs!! How does having small children prevent you from wearing ear plugs? And if they do then maybe you should wait until the kids are old enough?

Personally I hate the people who stay up late talking/playing music and the kids who wake up early and run around shouting. This is why I mostly only go wild camping, so I’m not near other people.

Also, my best friend snores. She’s slim and has no health issues. It’s really not always a sign of obesity or serious illness! And everyone snores when drunk / ill.

[thebookworm1]

This thread is just making me more grateful that DH does not snore, at all.

[LakieLady]

@Silvergreen

I'd like to ban children from camping. The little cunts always wake everyone else up too early.

Of course you can wear earplugs, stop being a martyr.

I camped for 30-odd years, until arthritis made it impossible. I've never been kept awake by a snorer, but I have been kept awake by children playing electronic games early in the morning and by babies crying.

On a trip to the Gower, someone had a baby that cried practically all night long, every goddamn night. We were going to move to a different site after the 3rd or 4th night, but they started packing up to leave.

The mother told me that another camper had complained and they had been asked to leave. I gave silent thanks to that camper.

[eniledam]

Interesting stuff about the gender disparity here for snorers.

"When it comes to snoring, men are often blamed for keeping the household wide awake. But research shows that women snore just as frequently – and despite snoring at a similar volume to men, they don’t own up to it.

A study published in the Journal of Clinical Sleep Medicine detailed nearly 2000 patients who had been referred to a sleep disorder centre for evaluation. Researchers found that 88% of the women snored, but only 72% reported it. This was a stark contrast to the men; of the 93% who were snorers, all of them self-reported it.

The study also found that women snored just as loudly as their male counterparts. The average snoring intensity for the men was 51.7 decibels; women were close to matching it with an average of 50 decibels."

Source: snoreeze.com/news/women-snore-just-as-much-as-men-but-are-less-likely-to-admit-it/

[Mrstamborineman]

If you can’t bear it, you have a reasonable duty to acknowledge your shortcomings and not go to a busy campsite. It is not up to others to manage your expectations. My dh snores and I would not share a tent with him for this reason. You can’t pass the buck.

[TwooThirty]

@JurassicPark101

I climbed Kilimanjaro about a decade ago with a group of about a dozen of us. By day 3 one of the tents had to be pitched about 200 metres away as one of the group sounded like a Harley Davidson. It meant another one of the tents had to have 3 people squeezed into it and it was just absolutely grim. Snoring man thought it was absolutely hilarious and said it happened wherever he went. It was so inconsiderate, he knew he snored and admitted a nose clip pretty much stopped it but it was a bit uncomfortable so he didn’t use it. We were all so knackered after a week of this that there was one guy on the trip who got pretty close to hitting him.

As long as snorers are doing everything they can to stop snoring then I think that’s the best you can hope for.

This sounds awful!

[honeyytoast]

I think you shouldn’t go camping in the vicinity of strangers if peripheral noise/other people’s noise bothers you lol. I do sympathise because it would drive me mental too, but that’s why I avoid communal sleeping situations.

Also, a lot of people assume they don’t snore just because it’s not sleep apnea or a habitual problem. But most people do snore sometimes with a cold or blocked nose, which is especially likely when camping.

[TwooThirty]

The 40% 20% doesn't actually tell us that twice as many men as women snore. It might tell us that twice as many men as women report snoring, or seek help for snoring, but that is not the same thing.

Yes, there’s more to it than one small snippet of stats. For instance, the rest of the article goes on to explain why men’s anatomy and hormones make them more predisposed to snoring.

[LovelyLovelyWarmCoffee]

I agree OP, it is kind of selfish to go camping if you know your snoring will be a nuisance for other people. It doesn’t mean you can’t camp at all, but maybe choose a site where you are not close to other tents.
FWIW I think the same about parents who know their DC are early risers and incapable of keeping quiet (reading a book for ex)

[grapewine]

@TheVolturi

Camping is something only an insane person would enjoy in my opinion!

There is that...

[Sexnotgender]

@OverByYer

I remember going camping once and there was a baby crying and crying. My son aged about 8 at the time yelled ‘ shut your crying machine up will you’
I swear the whole site went into stunned silence. I had the giggles.
You could try that tactic

I’d be so embarrassed to have raised such a rude child.

Unfortunately snorers can’t really help it but I understand your pain. I used to get the rage at snoring dads on my daughters hospital ward. I was almost thankful when my daughter got an infection and was moved to a private room! (Not actually thankful before anyone thinks I’m a monster).

[BeauxRingarde]

But it doesn’t void all those complaints though does it?

No, but neither does it give any weight at all to any discussion of sex based differences in snoring.

I suppose you could go onto a predominately male forum and see what their snoring posts are about. If they exist I wonder if they’d be mostly “my DW is having a go at me for my snoring” or “my DW’s snoring is disturbing my sleep and she refuses to do anything about it”. If the stats are anything to go by it would probably be 40% of the first and less than 20% of the latter, but who knows

That wouldn't tell you anything either. For all we know, all of their female partners snore but they don't care enough to mention it.

The 40% 20% doesn't actually tell us that twice as many men as women snore. It might tell us that twice as many men as women report snoring, or seek help for snoring, but that is not the same thing.

Statistics. Not so easy.

[alsonotmyname]

@MarieIVanArkleStinks yep, she doesn't want to go again (I didn't mention to her it was snoring) she doesn't need to be reminded all the time, life is tough enough for a teen

[alsonotmyname]

[quote Ponoka7]@alsonotmyname, does she need her tonsils shaved? I had mine out as an adult because my parents didn't insist on it as a child. My seven year old GC will hopefully get hers done by next year. Snoring because of medical reasons really messed your health up.[/quote]
No she has a bifid uvula (the dangly bit at the back of the throat) it doesn't cause any other problems at all (speech, digestive) so no reason to operate

[Horst]

This is with other noises you no they will stop. A loud drunk. They will fall asleep and the warden will likely have words the following day, a baby it gets a bottle/cuddle stops crying. The combine that woke me at 5am I knew that field was now done and so it wouldn’t wake me again.

Zips it’s just a zip to go to the bathroom, children should be spoken to of too loud/too early. Mine are still sleeping at 8/9am.

A magimix snorer. We don’t know when it will end or when it will start. Maybe they will leave tomorrow? Maybe they are here all week? ahh, you can’t go and ask them to please keep their children quiet as that’s not possible with snoring it just impacts everyone around them with no let up.

[TwooThirty]

Absolutely @BeauxRingarde I agree there’s a huge amount of gender bias on Mumsnet, just by the very nature of it.

But it doesn’t void all those complaints though does it?

I suppose you could go onto a predominately male forum and see what their snoring posts are about. If they exist I wonder if they’d be mostly “my DW is having a go at me for my snoring” or “my DW’s snoring is disturbing my sleep and she refuses to do anything about it”. If the stats are anything to go by it would probably be 40% of the first and less than 20% of the latter, but who knows.

[CatM1nt]

Tonsil free here. Makes no difference.

[MarieIVanArkleStinks]

@alsonotmyname

Vile opinions on here
Someone kicked our tent snorer as they walked past in the night, the snorer was my slim 13 dd who has snored since she was a baby, she's nowhere near as loud as some and we were well away from others but on the easiest route to the loos it seems, she was woken and scared. So are you suggesting she never goes camping op or that she has an invasive operation for your convenience?

WTAF?

What an awful experience that must have been for you and her. Some people are absolute dregs.

[Ponoka7]

@alsonotmyname, does she need her tonsils shaved? I had mine out as an adult because my parents didn't insist on it as a child. My seven year old GC will hopefully get hers done by next year. Snoring because of medical reasons really messed your health up.

[CatM1nt]

I’ve been kept awake many times camping by crying babies and toddlers and late night drinkers.Are they not allowed either?

[Ponoka7]

I'd add crying young children. I'd take snorers over a few children that we've camped by. I don't know how one of them managed it, but he cried when he ate as well. There was a post on here by a Mum who was asking if they should go camping even though their baby was having a bad time teething, was waking frequently through the night and was generally whingey anyway, absolutely not.

[alsonotmyname]

Vile opinions on here
Someone kicked our tent snorer as they walked past in the night, the snorer was my slim 13 dd who has snored since she was a baby, she's nowhere near as loud as some and we were well away from others but on the easiest route to the loos it seems, she was woken and scared. So are you suggesting she never goes camping op or that she has an invasive operation for your convenience?

[BeauxRingarde]

This, coupled with the anecdotal evidence from here on Mumsnet that the majority of the time ‘snoring’ appears in thread titles is because someone’s male partner is keeping them awake by snoring like thunder and yet refusing to do anything about it, means I absolutely stand by my statement

Call me crazy, but the reason that it's mostly women complaining about men snoring on MN could just be that almost all of the posters on MN are women?

[CatM1nt]

Well I’m a dick then. I snore. I’m not overweight and my breathing is fine. It’s a family trait and nothing can be done about it.

My Dh often sleeps downstairs on the sofa.We’re counting down the days until the teens release a spare room.