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Why do people assume I am struggling financially?

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forinborin · 04/04/2021 10:57

A very, very shallow thread.

Over the last couple of years, I had a couple of situations where people, presumably, assumed that I must be in some financial trouble.

Once at a dentist - I registered with a new one for an emergency appointment and everyone (the receptionist, the dental nurse and the dentist) repeated several times that it is not free, not NHS and I will be expected to pay for it (I was puzzled as I already said "yes, I know, I read the form with the fee schedule and I signed it" several times).

Being told in a cafe that the price on the menu is for an "average" size main item (say, a lobster), and the actual one could be more or less expensive depending on the exact weight - would I like them to pick a smaller / cheaper one? The difference was a pound or two at most, probably.

Browsing for a gift for a friend's newborn in one of those boutique baby shops and the attendant saying "you know, we are a bit on the expensive side - you can also try XXX (a high street shop)". Without any prompting from my side, she even did not ask what I was looking for.

Discussing a recent purchase with someone I know distantly (they asked for a recommendation), and they say: "oh, you probably will be paying it off for years now!" It wasn't that expensive, I did not buy it on credit - but for some reason they had an impression that it was the only way I could afford it?

And so it goes, the full list is quite long. Yesterday new neighbours said they bought too many chocolate eggs and whether I/kids would like to share the excess, as no one should go without at Easter - they know how hard it must be. We are not going without... had never said anything like that to them, had never discussed money. Limiting sugar at home, that's true, for newly diagnosed health reasons - the children probably mentioned something at school about not having candy and chocolate, but why the first conclusion is that it is due to the lack of money? I mean, it was very kind of them, but made me feel like a charity case...

Now, I am not rich or wealthy, far from it, there are indeed months where it is paycheck to paycheck. But I have a reasonably comfortable professional income and can usually afford a chocolate egg or a tooth extraction. Something in my appearance/ behaviour must be screaming "she's struggling financially!"

So my extremely shallow question is - what is it that would make you immediately think "oh, she's struggling" pretty much on the first sight? Appearance/ grooming? Weight / visible unhealthiness? Clothes / style? Behaviour?

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Mamaily · 29/12/2021 13:10

This!!! This is happen to me aswell. I’m truly believe its because i’m brown. I’m from south east asia and i dressed with nice clothing (reiss, lk bennet, etc). My household income is £80k so i consider very comfortable life. But still sometime i feel everyone think i’m poor. Especially with other mums in my children school (state school). One of the teacher call me and said that i can have my 2 year old into nursery because she thought i eligible for 2 years old funding for lower income.

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FlossieTeacakesFurCoat18 · 13/04/2021 18:43

@ThatOtherPoster

I work in a shop that’s frequented by a mix of rich people and normal people. I’ve noticed that rich people:

Wear clothes that are simple and plain, but of a lovely quality: cashmere jumpers, decent jeans, silk shirts, real leather jackets.

Jewellery is minimal but impressive (like a beautiful watch, or a stonking engagement ring and wedding band on an otherwise bare hand).

Decent leather handbag. Good leather shoes.

Have shiny hair. (Women.) I don’t know how money gives you shiny hair but it seems to.

Have a lovely wallet or purse.

Shouldn't this be "people I presume are rich"? Unless they're all paying with platinum cards...
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Fortherosesjoni70 · 13/04/2021 12:24

@angielou791417

I had my son at 19, but looked younger, I was always assumed to be things I wasn't, I was followed in every clothes shop, his pram eyed up for shoplifter goods! I wasn't well off but actually married and in a nice little house, but always mistaken for a thief or a bad parent as I was so young.

This!
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LavenderLollies · 07/04/2021 16:31

@forinborin

When meeting someone for the first time and chat a bit I often get the confused looks and then "oh, wow you sound so well-educated!" or something like this Yes, I am well-educated and so are my parents and grandparents and the rest of my family, why wouldn't we be?
Yes, the Great British class system vs immigrants is a separate fascinating topic. I had very similar experiences to you. Even if you are working in a skilled role here, it is still automatically assumed by many that you lack broader education. You were just taught to press the right buttons at the right time, but otherwise pretty much a glorified manual worker.

I find this interesting, all of my experience working alongside people from Eastern European countries has been that my coworkers were very highly educated back in their home countries but then working to make ends meet here. When I delivered pizza for a job every last one of my fellow drivers was degree educated. So based on that I tend to (perhaps wrongly, it’s a stereotype I know) assume that someone from say Poland working a NMW job here is smart and educated.
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sueelleker · 07/04/2021 15:30

@Janegrey333

You are not on your own - the UK is still very much a class system perpetuate by aspiring middle classers moving up the ladder

If you think they can ever become upper class, you are completely wrong. They cannot. As I have said, class is about much more than aping other people and flashing your wads of cash.

famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/john_betjeman/poems/785
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Bul21ia · 07/04/2021 14:21

@TellerTuesday

There's one school mum that for some reason took it upon herself to think I'm on the bones of my arse. I presume it's because I generally look like I've just been dug up. Work from home & have no intention of grooming myself to sit in my own home all day. We usually walk to school when I had to drive once she saw me getting out of the car and said 'my my Teller is THAT yours, you are a dark horse'. I just laugh now at how utterly shallow she is.

Hahahah people are funny aren’t they!! Speaks more of her than you... didn’t she think to ask you what you do for a living on the school run before assuming Blush
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angielou791417 · 07/04/2021 14:02

I had my son at 19, but looked younger, I was always assumed to be things I wasn't, I was followed in every clothes shop, his pram eyed up for shoplifter goods! I wasn't well off but actually married and in a nice little house, but always mistaken for a thief or a bad parent as I was so young.

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Janegrey333 · 07/04/2021 11:30

Sigh.

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SecretCiderCellar · 07/04/2021 11:27

@Janegrey333, I think we're talking at cross-purposes here. The 'mummies' at DS's school are surgeons, cleaners, post office workers, architects, nurses, solicitors, sculptors, engineers, forensic archaeologists, academics, hotel workers -- on the morning drop, they're by and large dressing for their workplaces, or wearing jeans or whatever that they'll switch out for scrubs/uniform once they get there, especially as, given that it's an inner-city school, many parents cycle or walk in with their children before continuing to work.

I don't see anyone of either sex wearing gym gear on the school run here.

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Janegrey333 · 07/04/2021 11:17

You are not on your own - the UK is still very much a class system perpetuate by aspiring middle classers moving up the ladder

If you think they can ever become upper class, you are completely wrong. They cannot. As I have said, class is about much more than aping other people and flashing your wads of cash.

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Janegrey333 · 07/04/2021 11:13

...on the outside...

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Janegrey333 · 07/04/2021 11:12

The expression I use is "classism" and its usually made be working class people who have a bit of money who think they are suddenly they are middle class.

They do this because they have no class. In addition, they don’t know that they cannot become middle class, no matter how much money they have. The class to which they aspire is much more about values so they cannot ever be part of it. They will always be in the outside looking in.

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Janegrey333 · 07/04/2021 11:09

@SecretCiderCellar

Sigh. ‘Ballet pumps and ‘a pretty dress’’ may be your idea of wildly independent dressing, but the only people who wear that to work are the heroines of chick lit novels opening a florist’s-cum-tearoom in Twee-on-Thames.

Obviously it’s independent in the sense that you are not wearing what every other mummy is. You have to think out of the box - if that's possible.
The gym garb and the “messy bun” is such a laughable cliché. Actually it’s the new Stepford wives look.
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JFD0201 · 07/04/2021 10:12

I get exactly the same rude assumptions.
A window rep said to my partner ' would your wife like to look at the pretty pictures' to which he replied "I'm only the lodger its my partners house!," I get treated appallingly by the police assumed a single parent causes trouble e en though its me making the report, I once offered a friend to pay their mortgage for a year whilst on redundancy last year and they haven't spoken to me since. These 'assumptions' can make or break friendship, lead you and your child to be treated differently which is so wrong in every aspect of life - and your child is cruelly embarrassed time and time again at no fault of their own.

The expression I use is "classism" and its usually made be working class people who have a bit of money who think they are suddenly they are middle class.

You are not on your own - the UK is still very much a class system perpetuate by aspiring middle classers moving up the ladder

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SecretCiderCellar · 07/04/2021 07:24

Sigh. ‘Ballet pumps and ‘a pretty dress’’ may be your idea of wildly independent dressing, but the only people who wear that to work are the heroines of chick lit novels opening a florist’s-cum-tearoom in Twee-on-Thames.

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Janegrey333 · 07/04/2021 00:41

@SecretCiderCellar

Wearing a pretty dress and ballet pumps is vastly preferable

Around here dressing up for the school run would scream 'socially insecure'.

I think you are the socially insecure people. You dress like clones ergo you have no confidence or independence of mind.
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Janegrey333 · 07/04/2021 00:38

@SecretCiderCellar

Wearing a pretty dress and ballet pumps is vastly preferable

Around here dressing up for the school run would scream 'socially insecure'.

Good grief. What’s wrong with having your own style? Why not think for yourself instead of following the herd? Don’t you believe in original thought? Lol
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Lassolarry1980 · 06/04/2021 21:55

@Bubblebu

Lassolarry1980

your posts sound as if the people who do the school run in your world very LITERALLY have nothing but the school run to do - they do not work (they do not have to) and if they work out they change because the school run itself is their sole purpose for existing....

I drop at 7.45am.

So pre covid...
I can grab a quick coffee, short gym session and be at my desk after a quick shower by time most state school drop offs are walking / driving home.

Twice a week a friend and I drop at 7.15 as our children are in swim club. So on those days I can be at my desk by 9 after fitting in a coffee and chat with her, a gym session and a shower etc
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ColdandFrosty1 · 06/04/2021 17:23

Yeah I find this alot especially when it's day time in the week and I have my toddler with me. I think people just assume I'm a SAHM on benefits which is far from the truth

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GreyhoundG1rl · 06/04/2021 17:17

Can you just not accept that a minority of people really are that patronisingly prejudiced?
Sorry, yes, I have no doubt that prejudice exists, unfortunately. It was the arrogance of telling somebody what they earn that seemed hard to believe, but then maybe some people are this stupid.

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NameChangedForThisFeb21 · 06/04/2021 17:14

@HaveringWavering

Not sure where “bin-British” came from! I think Pondicherry features heavily in Life of Pi doesn’t it?

Sorry I don’t know, I haven’t seen it.
I guessed you meant non-British.
I once accidentally asked if my 5 year old niece would like a “fingering” for her birthday... I had typed “Fingerling”. Never lived it down.
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NameChangedForThisFeb21 · 06/04/2021 17:09

@GreyhoundG1rl

Fair enough, NameChanged. It's an extraordinary thing to do, though. There's at least a possibility your friend misheard.

Is there also a possibility she misread and misreplied to several emails? Can you just not accept that a minority of people really are that patronisingly prejudiced?
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HaveringWavering · 06/04/2021 17:07

Not sure where “bin-British” came from! I think Pondicherry features heavily in Life of Pi doesn’t it?

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NameChangedForThisFeb21 · 06/04/2021 17:04

@HaveringWavering

Seeing as she never saw my friend in person and only spoke to her over the phone, hearing her Polish accent and name, I’m pretty certain the assumption was made due to her accent and nationality only.

*@NameChangedForThisFeb21* I thought it was your Asian friend who was the one who was applying for the course, not your Polish one? Does your Asian friend have a bin-British accent?

It is my Asian friend. The Polish friend is her friend.

Seems MN/Autocorrect doesn’t like the word P o n d i c h e r r i a n on my phone.
My friend wasn’t born here so yes, she has a non British accent.
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GreyhoundG1rl · 06/04/2021 17:00

Fair enough, NameChanged. It's an extraordinary thing to do, though. There's at least a possibility your friend misheard.

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