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To be a bit concerned about my one year old?

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ExcusesHalfTruthsFortifiedWine · 15/10/2018 20:16

DD2 is 15 months. She and her older sister (4) are absolutely chalk and cheese. Always have been.

DD1 is a gentle soul who dotes upon her little sister. As a toddler DD1 was always quite placid. She didn’t walk till she was about 17 months and even then she would just toddle around near me. She never ran away. She didn’t really do daft or destructive things even back then. She would play with her toys for hours at a time. She was so easy.

DD2, on the other hand. Oh my god have my eyes been opened. She is non stop. On the go from the moment she opens her eyes till the moment she goes to bed (usually kicking and screaming). She hates sleep. Does not nap any more (although will doze in the car as long as it is moving). She’s in at everything. Destroys things. Demanding. Stroppy. That stuff I think is quite normal.

What I’m worried about is that she has suddenly become quite angry and aggressive with DD1. Example - today DD1 was playing with her My Little Pony dolls. DD2 grabs one from her, out of her hands. DD1says “I was playing with that one” and hands her a different one (which I taught her to do and it often works). DD2 screamed in her face and grabbed her arm, digging her nails right in. This is a common example. She does this quite a lot and I separate them and I tell her “No!” In a sharp voice but really, at 15 months what else can I do?!

They both go to the same nursery three days a week. It is excellent and they both seem to love it. Go in happily, look happy when we collect them etc. Nursery have not reported any instances of this behaviour there.

I mean I know siblings will fight but I’m just a bit concerned about the anger here. I don’t really know how to handle it.

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PivotPivotPIVOTTT · 16/10/2018 08:20

Oh God yes the exact same here with the toilet! As well as slamming the lid on me she will try and put whatever she can get her hands on down the toilet while I'm sitting on it and then we have bottles of shampoo etc being flung around if I've forgotten to put them away Grin.

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IdaBWells · 15/10/2018 23:45

DD2 was also a much stronger personality than her big sister, in fact over the years I would have to step up and make sure DD2 wasn’t bullying her sweet natured sister! When they were the same age as yours DD2 would BITE her big sister to try and get her way, usually on her back! Nightmare, 4 yr old DD1 would come running to me in tears, I would have to watch them like a hawk.

DD2 is also very quick witted and funny, I don’t know where it comes from but she can think very quickly on her feet and is really charming. I have worked with her over the years to prevent her using her talents for evil Grin but she just has a very dominant personality and can get people to do what she wants through humour and charm.I am so grateful she came second so has not been able to dominate her sister (although she has tried). They are teens now and DD2 suddenly grew at 13 and now is 5’9” to her big sisters 5’4”!

My eldest has also become a leader and just was picked to lead a retreat, she was chosen from 80 girls, so your quieter, calmer one can still shine even with a sister with a big personality.

OP I think this is all normal, is just sounds like she is very frustrated. I would try to teach her more sign language so she can communicate with you. DD2 was also really boisterous literally bouncing off the walls when she was little. Much more so than my son who was born after. She is definitely the most high energy of my three. Now she is a rower and trains for 2 hours a day. Can you take the girls to gymnastics where they have inground trampolines? Physically wearing out number two has always worked.

I think as she gets older and is able to verbalize what she is thinking and what she wants her anger will calm down. But DD2 is also the one out of my three that has had to manage her anger more than her siblings. I think she just is more intense. We just have to learn new methods to parent this personality type.

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pullupinthekitcheninmyheels · 15/10/2018 23:23

Mine have pushed each other from bunk beds, rode over each other in electric cars and forcefully hit each other with toys hundreds of times. I think the only way to get through it is tho let them figure out the hierarchy themselves Grin

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ExcusesHalfTruthsFortifiedWine · 15/10/2018 23:18

Oh Pivott that’s a whole extra layer of stress right there. That must be horrible for you. But yeah again sounds very similar.

The toilet thing though. I have to take her with me (she would seriously injure herself if unsupervised for one moment - I am quite sure of this) and she will close the lid repeatedly while I’m sitting on the toilet. It’s higjly annoying Grin

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PivotPivotPIVOTTT · 15/10/2018 23:10

I also have to sniff her feet during nappy changeGrin. She often cries so hard that she almost passes out. I suspect she has Reflex Anoxic Syndrome as she goes floppy, can't get a breath and her eyes roll back (I can only snap her out this by blowing in her face) but doctor and paediatrician think shes just holding her breath for attention (even thought the first time this happened she was 6 months oldHmm). I'm really worried about how worse these episodes are going to get the older she gets and starts throwing bigger tantrums.

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PivotPivotPIVOTTT · 15/10/2018 23:07

Sounds similar to mine. I have a 6 year old and a 17 month old. DD1 at that age was never as demanding as DD2 (who basically sits on my head all dayHmm). She has recently started pulling DD1 hair. She gets frustrated very quickly and doesn't really bother with toys. She doesn't talk other than hiya, hello, no, ta and tata so it is difficult to work out why she is frustrated at times. I'm on my own this time round so she is very clingy with me I can't leave the room for the toilet. I'm lucky that DD1 has a lot of patience for her. They adore each other and make each other laugh loads but I definitely have my hands full with the toddler stage a lot more than I did with DD1.

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Camelsinthegobi · 15/10/2018 23:05

Normal, but sooo sooo hard. My second is my wild child, with first and third children being pretty gentle and calm. TBH I have had to have a good talking to myself about not singling him out as the ‘bad’ one. He’s been getting easier since turning 4 and started full time school this September and is like a different child - so happy and well behaved. I think the constant stimulation at school must be so good for him and what he needs. Hang on in there, it’ll get better.

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ExcusesHalfTruthsFortifiedWine · 15/10/2018 22:59

It’s funny what you say about humour dancing. The only way she’ll lie down to have her nappy changed is if I sniff her feet and make a face and say “poooh, what stinky feet you have”. She thinks this is hilarious and will wave them in my face while I change her. Maybe this is something I need to think about.

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ExcusesHalfTruthsFortifiedWine · 15/10/2018 22:55

Oh Dancing so many similarities there! I am growing out her fringe because she cannot stand to get her hair cut. But tooth brushing has become a huge issue. She just will not have it. Two of us practically holding her down for it. Nappy changing not much better but I’m so worried about her teeth.

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DancingForTheDog · 15/10/2018 22:46

This sounds familiar OP. I have two adult DDs, and like you my first was so sweet natured and easy going. I honestly thought I was a natural at parenting and felt a bit smug if I'm honest. 6 years later along comes DD2, and oh my god what a difference. I've said many times she aged me 10 years in 24 months. So defiant, so jealous of her sister, never sleeping and always crying. We were at a loss how to handle her for a long while. She was obviously bright and I could see she was frustrated. Like your DD2 mine had such a temper and could be really nasty to DD1. My sister said at one point that DD2 would either end up as prime minister or a serial killer! I couldn't get her hair cut as she would become hysterical, couldn't buy her shoes unless she was asleep in her pushchair (had to sign a disclaimer in the shoe shop as they hadn't fitted them themselves). I had to rethink my whole approach to parenting as what worked with DD1 didn't work with her. I learned to kill her with kindness, hugging out the temper tantrums and distracting her with jokes if I sensed she was building up to a blow out. Using humour to get her to behave really worked. She was bursting with energy and as she grew up I gave DH the job of tiring her out with sports (he's sporty, I'm not) as she was much better if she had expended her energy. She excelled at a couple of physical sports and that really helped as well. I used to think that although I loved her I didn't like her very much. Her sister tried so hard with her but she was usually rejected. However, she's 21 now and still strong willed, opinionated and stubborn, but oh how I love that girl. She's just amazing; smart, funny, feisty and very creative. She and her sister now have a pretty good relationship and it's getting better all the time. So hang on in there OP, it will get better.

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Ennirem · 15/10/2018 22:42

Aw OP! I’ve had my crazy little whirlwind first - hoping for the peaceful one second time round! 😆 She sounds quite high needs which will be a shock after your previous placid child. There is a special charm to these wild, clever babies, but I only found it once I stopped comparing her to other children and met her where she was - so much harder for you with the alternative already there before you and side by side all day long!

She’ll likely get easier the more she can do. My girl just hated being s baby!

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garethsouthgatesmrs · 15/10/2018 22:42

It does sound normal, do you have friends you could go to the park with? It does sound like dd1 could do to be pushed to be a little bit more independent, maybe having a friend to go off with in the park might improve her confidence?

Do you go to playgroups and things with them? How does dd1 handle that? Is it possible you unwittingly give more attention to dd1 and thats why dd2 gets jealous? Is most of the attention you gve dd2 negative, not trying to attribute blame just a thought fromhow you've described things.

And I really do know how hard it is to give positive attention to a difficult child who is being unkind to a very placid child.

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TheDarkPassenger · 15/10/2018 22:34

When my lot first started fighting I used to think Jesus they’re being so brutal, there’s something wrong people don’t treat each other like this!!! I was disgusted with them!

Then my mum reminded me of the times me and my sister fought and well... yeah we both still have scars.

I think their boundaries are different because you’re just never that close with anyone as you are siblings! I also think it’s very difficult for the younger ones to appreciate they’re not the same age as the older ones, so will be treat differently! They’re just too little to understand that!

FWIW my 3 year old is the gentlest little soul but even she gets pissed off royally when I tell her I’m also the boys’ mum. Like she will murder you with her eyes if you dare suggest she shares me with them, and she’s never known different than to share me!

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Whatshouldmynamebe321 · 15/10/2018 22:34

Oh my goodness you are not failing her at all! I forgot to add how I wanted to jump off a cliff when she was young. Didn't feel ok could cope at times and hated talking to other mums because they seemed to cope so well and I was losing the plot.

I was trying to send you positive thoughts though x lol

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ExcusesHalfTruthsFortifiedWine · 15/10/2018 22:22

Think

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ExcusesHalfTruthsFortifiedWine · 15/10/2018 22:22

The last few replies have made me tear up. I feel like I’m failing her by not understanding her or making the most of her. I need to have a good thing

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Whatshouldmynamebe321 · 15/10/2018 22:21

Another post to reassure you. Sounds normal behaviour.
I have four children and my third was as you'd describe. She's now an absolute pleasure 8 year old who is very wise for her age and loves to be busy. Forever cooking and helping me with chores...whilst the others are happier to watch tv and play games. I look back and see their personalities were so clear as babies. She always seemed ready to do more than she was able to and exerted the frustration with wild behaviours.

Find techniques to keep your youngest busy. Fiddly sorting toys and inset puzzles that she needs to focus her brain on.
The running off in public is hard and when mine was 15mths old I had a newborn also so i just had to strap her into pram the moment she tried to run.

Tough times but so worth it to be blessed with individual little humans with individual personalities x

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FinallyATea · 15/10/2018 22:12

Just to reassure you - it gets better! My DS2 has always been quite gentle, but DS1 was a challenge from day 1. He was never tired, on the go all the time, very challenging in many ways. He's now nearly 7 and the most wonderful boy you could wish to meet :) every day has got easier and easier with him since he was a few days old! I think the more challenging they are as babies, the more amazing it seems as they grow up and into the lovely kids they r destined to be :)

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Flobalob · 15/10/2018 22:06

My Dad said that my older brother was a lovely, easy going, sweet angel. They got the shock of their lives when I was born.

He said that if I'd have come first, they never would have had another child!

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saltandvinegarcrisps1 · 15/10/2018 21:58

I feel your pain OP. DS was a dream then DD came along and was like a tornado....still is and she's just turned 18. I used to.joke it was mother nature's way of keeping the human race going....give you an angel first!!

I found it helped to focus on the positives- she's feisty, stands up for herself, knows her own mind etc. But it was very challenging and got me down at times. She grew out of the physical aggression/ hitting but was very vocal!! She's still hard work but is also a wonderful, independent young woman who has been the most amazing support to me through some very difficult times.

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GunpowderGelatine · 15/10/2018 21:58

But yes my eldest was as good as gold, she set a very high standard! We'd go into the supermarket when she was 22 months, she hold my hand all the way round, never touch anything, never scream, she just did as she was told. I used to grumble to myself because she was slow!

I'd never dream of going into a supermarket with DS without restraining him first somehow! He runs off, he tries to break things, he pulls everything of the shelf, he insist on carrying his own basket around but because he's small it just gets awkward for him and he has a massive paddy. Awful. I wish my biggest worry in the supermarket was DS being slow

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ExcusesHalfTruthsFortifiedWine · 15/10/2018 21:58

Yeah a small one. They were out there today for a while.

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littlemisscomper · 15/10/2018 21:55

Do you have a garden OP?

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