To be really worried I have 3 points and a fine on the way?

[upsidedownfrown]

I'll explain as best I can so apologies if it's long. I'm an overthinker and getting cbt for that precise reason. I'm a new driver and whilst points at any time aren't good, points in the 1st 2 years could lead to having to resit tests etc (understandably so, if the driving is bad!)

The other morning I was driving on an unfamiliar road, the road was wet as it had been raining earlier. Its a busy road into a city but not too busy when I was driving.

Lots of traffic lights and I'm normally pretty good at anticipating when they've been green for a while.

Approached a set of lights on green, travelling at about 25mph in a 30 limit with a car up my rear end. As my car gets about 1 - 2ft over the stop line it changed to amber. There's a fairly large box junction with yellow hatching so as I was already slightly over the stop line, I proceeded. There was nothing blocking my exit on other side of box. As I'm just about to clear the box I come about level with the next set of lights (not sure the technical name. The one's that are linked to the lights at the stop line but set on the far side of junction) and they turn red.

I've now found out that this particular junction has red light camera.

Am I likely to get a ticket?? I'm not even sure if it's my side/other side/both sides that the camera is on. I drove the same road again today and the only camera my passenger could see was in a central island, angled slightly down, but not in the direction I was driving. Do these cameras take front shots? I don't even know what they look like.

I feel really stupid. (And yes, I take on board all advice about slowing down approaching lights etc. This is the first time I've felt unsure about a driving decision)

[upsidedownfrown]

Just to clarify, the box was clear, I was driving under the limit at road was wet, the box is HUGE so even though I carried on driving, I was only just getting to the other side of the box (where the 2nd just for info lights are) as it turned red.

I'm not worried anymore though. Have thought rationally, calmed down and stopped being paranoid about it.

[WeAllHaveWings]

OP, you don't need to anticipate how long a light has been green! if it's green and the hatch is clear to cross then you are ok to proceed.

[EastMidsMummy]

She didn't have to stop. There was nothing in the box junction. And there is a diagram.

[childmaintenanceserviceinquiry]

I did read the post. Trickier without a diagram.

It was the statement - "As I'm just about to clear the box". It seemed to imply that OP had to then stop in the yellow box junction. But luckily not London.

[EastMidsMummy]

Some of you need to read the original post a bit better.

She went over the stop line (a couple of feet over) when the light was green, not amber. The box junction was clear so she drove straight across. The lights didn't go red until she was nearly clear of the box junction, way beyond the stop line.

There is no need to cross fingers or to worry about a box junction fine. She has done nothing even a tiny bit wrong.

[LionsOnTour]

Sounds ok to me. 🤞🏻

[upsidedownfrown]

Nope not London! I'd be horrendous in London. Doesn't sound like much fun driving there! I absolutely love driving. I'm down in Devon. It's a new car so I'm getting used to it still and hadn't had it on a wet road before. Decided to just go for a little drive round local area to get a feel for it on wet roads, where I know its quiet. No idea why I decided to head home on that busy road!

I'm pretty confident there was no flash!

I'd spent the entire mile long road with this car up my behind! On hill starts at lights and everything. I have p plates just till I'm fully confident in new car so goodness knows why they were so keen to be so near me. Maybe they just liked my shiny car lol

Both myself and passenger are 100% on how I explained with the line/amber, box junction red light thing so fingers crossed.

Are flashes really obvious even if you're concentrating on the road ahead?

[childmaintenanceserviceinquiry]

Are you in London ? If so the yellow box infringement could get you a fine. I am. A driver of over 30 years. I started a new job in a London borough and fell foul of the London yellow box junction fines 3 times before receiving the penalties, so far the local council have refused to listen to anything. I will be paying. 3 £65. So I am going to complain to the local council. They have ignored all reasonable representations, to be frank by the time I am done it is going to have cost them a lot more than 3 * £65. I am a good safe driver, they are doing nothing to sort out the junction I am crossing other than put up cameras,

[GeorgeTheHamster]

It's about the stop line not the lights. You went over the line on amber not red. It's fine.

[viques]

On a wet road , approaching lights with an idiot up my exhaust I think I would have touched my brake lights to show him I was prepared to stop and hopefully get him to hold back in case I did have to stop. I think you will be fine, but remember that a wet road can change your stopping distance by quite a bit.

[myusernameisnotmyusername]

I once did something similar but stopped in the box junction. I had panicked and actually caused an obstructions with cars beeping me on all sides. It was horrendous but I had just moved to London and hadn't had much experience with box junctions. Anyway I got a fine with no points for sitting in the box junction. If your exit is clear you have to keep going.

[Nectarines]

I got points for red light. Was turning right at a hideous junction, saw a gap
, panicked and went.

There was a definite, obvious flash.

[alfagirl73]

You'll probably be fine - those cameras flash - so if you didn't see a flash, you'll likely not be getting a ticket.

[AtHomeDadGlos]

No, you'll be fine. You went through on amber not red. Also the camera seems to be for the other side of the road I'd say. Good diagram!

I've seen some twonks do you what did but then stop before the set that had turned red, and refuse to move forward thus stopping joining traffic. Never do that.

[upsidedownfrown]

Phew! Seriously, you lot are brilliant. I've been getting myself in such a flap! Fingers crossed for all of you who've done similar recently

[nocampinghere]

you did the right thing. you're fine.

[PetalsOnPearls]

You're fine, you cleared the stop line lights on Amber.

The second set of lights are often not present on many junctions.

[Sallystyle]

OP when I first passed I thought I was going to get points for all sorts of things When the two years were up I breathed a sigh of relief. I still haven't had any points I just have OCD and anxiety and at that time it wasn't well controlled. I wasn't a bad driver, it was just my head.

You will not get a ticket for this. You are ok.

I actually did run a red light the other week. It was the first time I have ever done it and I made my husband drive there one evening to check if there was a camera- there wasn't. I still can't believe I done it.

[IStoleDipsysHat]

You stop at the stop line. The other set of lights is to ensure all traffic can see what state that particular lane should be in if sight of the original set is unclear. Saying that I have seen someone stop at one of these after the line lights on a huge roundabout, they nearly caused a few accidents as unsuspecting traffic rounded the bend and they refused to move.

[WorknameJimEllis]

That period of time you are describing as the lights change is called the Intergeen Period.

It is there to allow you to clear the junction safety.

Use it to clear the junction! Not like the fucknugget I saw yesterday who panicked , jammed all on in the dead center of a busy and very tight junction and blocked all traffic for a full cycle of the lights because no one could get past from any direction.

[AHobbyaweek]

By your diagram, you would not get a ticket as you didn't cross the stop line on a red light, only an amber one. For the camera to trigger, the light has to go red and then someone has to cross the line.

[upsidedownfrown]

Thank you so much everybody! You're calming me down! I'm just so awful at always second guessing anything that I don't think was 100%. I know I need to stop that!

[upsidedownfrown]

Here's the diagram! Can't believe I forgot it! I'm the green square. Amber just over stop light, light turning red at end of hatchings. The line down middle is central reservation island thingie. The blue square on it is where theres a camera but its pointed in opposite direction than I was travelling.

[EastMidsMummy]

(In fact, the only thing that worries me about your story is that you are worried you did anything wrong. How on earth could you have done anything differently? As you have told the story, you went through the lights on green!)

[3isthemagicnumbersoimtold]

No ticket. You did not go through a red light.

You went through a green light that changed to amber. At no point was red involved.

You'll be fine