Corbyn brexit single market let down

[Rabbityrabbitcarrot]

So today corbyn has sacked some members of his front bench because they voted to leave the single market against his wishes

Labours manifesto stated. "We will scrap the Conservatives’ Brexit White Paper and replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union – which are essential for maintaining industries, jobs and businesses in Britain. Labour will always put jobs and the economy first."

So corbyn has done a 100% U-turn on the single market and lead millions believing that they were voting to stay as per their manifesto.
I voted remain and labour because of this and feel very let down

www.labour.org.uk/index.php/manifesto2017/brexit

[Dadstheworld]

buttery

No parties are bound to manifesto promises.

Wheeler VS PM is the stated case law I believe.

[EpoxyResin]

Any labour supporter who blames Corbyn for the leave vote gives their party too much credit for influence at the time of the referendum. And I say that as a labour party member and remain campaigner.

Technically none of the manifestos are binding, but it generally pisses the public off if you immediately abandon them.

And Susannah, FYI, Theresa May doesn't HAVE a majority, weak or otherwise. The poor lass.

[Butterymuffin]

Is the Labour manifesto binding since they're not in power? Isn't it a statement of what each party will do if they get into / stay in government? In which case the Tories are theoretically bound by theirs (not that they are taking any notice) but Labour surely ought to be open to developing new policy positions. And one key aspect of that would be policy that will appeal to the younger voters who are now inclined to back them. If there's another GE they'll agree a new manifesto, right?

[makeourfuture]

thereby weakening Theresa May's majority.

Much more than weaken.

[SusannahL]

Every time the vile Corbyn opens his mouth he lies.
You should all have realised that by now.

Such a pity so many daft people fell for his idiotic promises before the GE, thereby weakening Theresa May's majority.

[Providentt]

It was a very deliberately misleading statement by Corbyn, designed to trick people who don't realise that staying in the single market is not possible without freedom of movement (those who don't read further than the Daily Fail headlines).
He was the leader of the Labour party at the referendum, and the Labour party supported Remain. He should have campaigned properly to remain, or allowed someone else in his party to take on that role. He always puts his own personal views first. Without him we would be staying in the EU. Also without Cameron, goes without saying.

[Crochetthedayaway]

I think Labour went for a deliberate fudge in their manifesto and it has been clear for a long time that Corbyn is a Brexiteer even if for rather different reasons than most of them. There were pro Eu parties at the last election but Labour wasn't one of them, people who thought it was weren't paying enough attention.

[user1471596238]

Trying to say that the party will try and remain part of the single market without going back on the freedom of movement pledge within the manifesto is like trying to insert a square peg into a round hole. The EU has made its position clear on freedom of movement so to just ignore it or think that it can be negotiated around is disregarding one of their fundamental positions.

[user1471596238]

Didn't the labour manifesto acknowledge that freedom of movement was ending? No freedom of movement = no membership of the single market. I voted remain but I also voted labour, understanding that we would no longer be part of the single market. What labour want to negotiate is tariff free access. Whether it's achievable is anyone's guess but was I shocked or surprised ? Not really. I'm kind of surprised that those labour members sought include the amendment to be honest.

[PratStick]

Sausage cart.

That sounds a very German saying.

[Dadstheworld]

I think a lot of Labour voters took the impression that a soft Brexit would mean the possibility of no Brexit.

Anyone with an ounce of sense would realise Corbyn is all for Brexit but is hedging his bets while he still has a sniff of power.

[Louisianna16]

Manifesto says Freedom of Movement will end. So we will be leaving Single Market as one of the tenets of membership is FOM. Its a logical position

[DreichAgain]

Bratwurst I hope..

[BMW6]

Sausage cart, sausage cart, wherefore art thou, sausage cart

To be or not to be,
But the question is - what is a sausage cart?

Is this a sausage cart I see before me?

[MissionItsPossible]

I don't understand why everyone thought that Jeremy Corbyn would be fighting for EU perks when he's spent the last 20 odd years denigrating the EU and the last 2 half-heartedly offering mumbling support to remain in the EU.

[user1471545174]

But at least whelk stalls exist - or used to. What is a sausage cart?

[FaithHopeCharityDesperation]

I hate Corbyn.
I will happily rant against everything he does that is sleekit & underhanded.

In this instance though, I cannot fault him - he acted entirely properly & completely in line with what the Labour manifesto stated.

That said, Labour's position on Brexit is chaotic & nonsensical, and I was astounded that he wasn't pressed on it during the election.

[WhollyFather]

Manifesto talk. '...replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union...' does not mean 'we will negotiate to stay in the SM and CU'.

We voted leave and we will. We cannot leave the EU and stay in the SM or CU because they are integral parts of the EU. The only benefit we want is tariff-free trade, which actually helps EU countries more than it helps us as (a) they export twice as much by value to us as we do to them, and (b) the bulk of our exports to EU member states are in the form of services, which are tariff-free anyway. If the EU is too vindictive to offer us that with no strings, we're happy to trade with them on World Trade Organization terms like we currently trade with most of the rest of the world, tariffs and all.

The Single Market brings with it the so-called' four freedoms', which includes freedom of movement (in reality, freedom of economic migration) which has been rejected by UK voters, so staying in that is not an option. The Customs Union is basically a protectionist zone, membership of which prevents us negotiating international trade deals on our own account. We don't need it.

And I'm not in the least surprised to see the open contempt with which Umunna and the other rebels regard democracy when it conflicts with their precious feelings. The government asked the public what they wanted to do. The public gave them their answer. MPs must now do as they are told.

[makeourfuture]

I have strong feelings that "whelk stall" is over-used.

[ChardonnaysPrettySister]

Where are you from makeourfuture?

Can you vote in British elections?

[EpoxyResin]

Er, Providentt, the political leader without whom we wouldn't be leaving the EU is DAVID CAMERON.

It's funny what God-like powers people attribute to Corbyn, and that's just his opponents.

[DreichAgain]

A sausage cart makes me think of Vienna. Delicious!

[EnthusiasmIsDisturbed]

Why is anyone surprised

We all witnessed Corbyn's lacklustre campaign to remain in the EU he wouldn't even share a platform with Cameron

He isn't in favour of the EU and never has been

[Providentt]

Extremely unhappy with Corbyn and his keenness to leave the EU. To campaign on wanting the benefits of the single market and customs union but without being in them was ridiculous and deliberately misleading.
If he had not been leader of the labour party we would probably not be leaving the EU in the first place.

[DreichAgain]

Where are you from makeourfuture?