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Original poster

Honestly, to all intensive purposes you will thank me for this one day

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MutePoint · 08/03/2017 08:45

I'm in no position to join the grammar police but some MNetters might be grateful to learn that

all intensive purposes should actually be: all intents and purposes

per say should be: per se

mute point should be: moot point

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TiggyD · 08/03/2017 09:43

I agree. Some Freds do leave a bad taste in your mouth.

TinfoilHattie · 08/03/2017 09:44

to show how clever you are.

Hardly - knowing the difference between been/being or now/know or your/you're is something my 8 year old can do. Clever is having an advanced degree in astrophysics. Basic is proper English. Difference between knowing you're shit and knowing your shit.

RhiWrites · 08/03/2017 09:46

It's a doggy dog world on mumsnet today.

MamaMagellanic · 08/03/2017 09:46

'Loverly'

I shit you not. Used by more than one person. I want to tell them but don't have the heart.

TinfoilHattie · 08/03/2017 09:47

Another one - it's an AISLE in a supermarket, not an ISLE.

As in "I defiantly seen the woman in the fruit isle".

Floggingmolly · 08/03/2017 09:48

Doggy dog! Grin

CheesyWeez · 08/03/2017 09:48

I saw on an estate agent's ad that the area was very 'sort after'. Which should be 'sought after' because people seek it out.

I'd disagree about 'this needs gone' being a mistake as that's Scottish (if that's what you meant!)

I'm glad more grammar is being taught in primary schools now, I don't remember being taught any in the seventies and eighties. I only started taking notice when I learned/learnt a foreign language and started teaching English to people in that language.

NotRumpole · 08/03/2017 09:50

Lack of education Rita, but hey, if felling superior gets you through the day...

And I say this as someone for whom accurate spoken and written language is very important for my job, and was drummed into me from being a small child.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 08/03/2017 09:53

There are many kinds of intelligence though. My ten year old is really smashing his Y6 SPAG Sats revision.

Rather more importantly though, he also has the emotional intelligence not to sneer at his classmates who are doing less well.

fascicle · 08/03/2017 09:54

MutePoint
I'm in no position to join the grammar police

Consider your application submitted.

(Grammar errors, typos etc - really not the end of the whirled.)

Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 08/03/2017 09:54

Oh dear. I am felling slightly superior now...

Now can everyone stop getting so upset about everythink? Just imagine your cuddled up with a fury puppy.

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MutePoint · 08/03/2017 09:54

It's not sneering to point out something that might help. So if someone reads this thread and realises that what they've misheard as "in all intensive purposes" is wrong - job done! Hi

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alltouchedout · 08/03/2017 09:55

I shan't be thanking you any day soon. Pedants set my teeth on edge far more than grammatical mistakes. If someone has managed to communicate effectively that is all that matters.

Yes, this.

Poor grammar and spelling mistakes in official documents, textbooks, school worksheets, on signage, etc- they annoy me. Mistakes on a fucking chat forum that don't actually prevent people from understanding what is said- for goodness sake, what's the big deal? Verbal communication is full of 'ums' and 'ers' and mispronunciations and so on, and we all seem to manage perfectly well to cope with that.

There's an element of snobbery to threads like these that makes me very uncomfortable.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 08/03/2017 09:56

Ooh look at you Mute saving the world. Give yourself a pat on the back eh.

SapphireStrange · 08/03/2017 09:57

I've never heard any cunt one say 'all intensive purposes'. Shock

Mute point, yes.

Blodplod · 08/03/2017 09:58

We had a lady at work who was employed to do all of our marketing by my boss who (by his own admission) not very good at grammar and spelling. Think pacific and Fait (Fiat, the car).

It turns out she wasn't much better and we've got huge (huge!) signs and hoardings offering free 1 year warrenty. Our website is awful... makes me cringe every time I read it but my boss can't see the problem and is not bothered to change it. We have chow (ciao), inbedded (embedded) and was (were) amongst other howlers... makes my teeth itch reading it...

CheesyWeez · 08/03/2017 09:58

Rita that's an advantage for you as it seems to me that Scottish people pronounce everything so well that they know how to spell it. My Scottish friend pronounces their, there and they're all differently so can't see any problem in remembering how to spell them. In parts of the UK they all sound exactly the same.

Mute I understand your post but it's a bit of a minefield isn't it! Shock I think I have a problem with rules in general, once I know what a rule is I really hate to break it and seeing other people breaking it bothers me. That's a problem I have with my personality. Blush

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 08/03/2017 09:58

It's not about education - I didn't have a great education but I read voraciously.

Nobody is sneering but if someone writes 'would of' and someone else points out it is 'would have', then they get all defensive. There are a lot of things I know little about and I'm happy to be corrected so that I don't make that mistake in the future.

And I doubt the mistakes are from people that don't have English as a first language - they tend to be taught English in more detail that those who have it as their first language.

Aworldofmyown · 08/03/2017 09:59

Its not a grammatical error. Its the wrong fucking words!

My grammar is appalling, but at least get the words right.

TinfoilHattie · 08/03/2017 10:01

We recruited for a position recently - position requiring a high level of attention to detail, and excellent spelling and grammar. CV submitted saying one of the applicants enjoyed "dinning out with freinds".

Dontactlikeyouknowme · 08/03/2017 10:01

It looks like sneering to me.

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MutePoint · 08/03/2017 10:03

It seems like those who consider themselves well-educated have a "ah bless em they don't know any better attitude so leave them to it" attitude.

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Blodplod · 08/03/2017 10:07

But the point i am trying to make regards it being at work, whether I am being a snob, a pedant or 'clever', to me as a person it gives me a certain impression of that business which isn't favourable.

PurpleDaisies · 08/03/2017 10:08

I've started collecting these for using with students...

I stood there quite in ore of the girls kindness and generosity.

It is the apitemy of entitled.

Having been almost moan down twice this morning by cars turning left into side roads

Been chatting to my children on the school run and they put it into prospective for me.

Hi all, please bare with me on the background story, we really need help.

People are aloud to be over the moon about it and have verbal diarrhea about it.

was the article pier reviewed?

The only reason I know that the Daily Mail apparently lift threads from here is because of the number of daily mail readers who come on here to wine about it.

Didn't go inside after that until I actually bought it, but I did pour over the estate agent's pictures!

how comes MN soughted out the hacking and with this hardly a response and taking ages,really not good

Your husband is the route of all this.

ItShouldHaveBeenJingleJess · 08/03/2017 10:08

I think you should loose the attitude, OP.