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Elfina · 05/01/2014 13:40

from London? Is this bonkers? It would be to Moseley. Basically because for the price of our flat we could have a 4 bedroom detached. What would I miss about London??

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gutzgutz · 22/01/2014 22:10

I'm from a very nice part of LOndon originally but have been in north birmingham for 10 years now. I think the quality of life outside of London and the south east if you have a reasonable job is miles better and house prices are a major factor in this. For what my brother and sister in law are looking at paying for a 2 bed smallish flat in a London suburb we would get a 4/5 bed house in a good area with good schools, transport links etc.

Moseley is a good area with loads to do and lovely huge houses and cannon hill park and the MAC of course.

We pay £35 per day for nursery and I think it's £40 in Sutton Coldfield although friends pay up to £60 in edgbaston for a very popular ofsted outstanding one.

I do find it amusing my eldest is getting a brummy accent and saying 'fast' rather than 'farst', 'bath' and not 'barth' etc.

I suppose the downside is the reaction you get from people when you tell them where you live! But yes, these are based on old stereotypes. However, the city centre has a real dearth of independent shops/ decent market along the lines of Camden/ spitalfields. That I do not like.

So in short YANBU!!

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Supercosy · 22/01/2014 21:55

I used to live in Moseley. It's a lovely part of Birmingham. Great shops and nice pubs. Birmingham in general though.....I liked it but I didn't love it. I never go back there. My favourite thing is that it is so multicultural, unlike where I live now, however, if you've been living in London you already have that!

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MNBirminghamLocalEd · 22/01/2014 21:51

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MNBirminghamLocalEd · 22/01/2014 21:50

Come and look at what Birmingham's got to offer here: local.mumsnet.com/birmingham-sutton-coldfield

I know I've come to this thread a bit late Blush, but there is loads and loads Birmingham has to offer My OH would enjoy a better career in London, but balanced against the relaxed and happy lifestyle we enjoy in S Birmingham, and the excellent schools, there's no debate.

I'm not from here, and love that in 15 mins you can be walking in beautiful countryside, yet the theatres, shops and restaurants are 10 minutes away in the city centre. And it's the friendliest place I've ever lived in too.

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Theas18 · 06/01/2014 18:45

Don't get too hung up on the crime angle that someone mentioned. Personal experience has been no worse than anywhere else, and my 3 use public transport a huge amount and are out and about on Brums streets plenty ( as am I and DH) .

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Valdeeves · 06/01/2014 18:04

Yes the Balti triangle!

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FrauMoose · 06/01/2014 17:56

(More canals than Venice....). BMAG. The Barber Institute. The CBSO. The Balti belt..

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Valdeeves · 06/01/2014 17:53

Ah I missed the MAC someone mentioned before and theatres - the theatres and concert venues are great too.
Ah I miss Birmjngham.

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Ticktocktick · 06/01/2014 16:49

I wouldn't be surprised, Elfina. I'm in a CP/UoB combination job at the moment, and I've been knocking about here for a few years now Smile

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Valdeeves · 06/01/2014 16:15

Sorry not meaning to comment about Moseley schools - there are good ones - it just depends on your child and what they need. We lived in a great area for primary schools in Birmingham but the secondary was not very strong.

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Elfina · 06/01/2014 16:15

ticktocktick, we probably know each other, and if we don't, we'll know friends of friends. CP and UoB psychology seems to be a very small world Grin

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FrauMoose · 06/01/2014 16:03

My spouse and I care about education. We live in the area that the OP plans to move (back) to. Our three children were all educated locally. Two went on to gain degrees at well-regarded universities. The third is currently doing A-levels at a school that's ten minutes walk from our house, having got some pretty impressive GCSEs.

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Ticktocktick · 06/01/2014 16:03

I love Birmingham, despite having hated it when I initially moved here 10 years ago. I now live in Kings Heath, which is brilliant. Am also a psychologist, by the way (clinical). Kings Heath is crawling with us Grin

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Valdeeves · 06/01/2014 15:36

I wouldn't move to Moseley though - fab place but not the best for schools. Harborne or Solihull, Knoll, Dorridge are pretty good education wise. Moseley is a boho hangout - it's where I'd live if we had no kids? Make sense?

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Valdeeves · 06/01/2014 15:34

Elfina,
We moved from Birmingham after 10 years to the country, not far from the coast.

I loved Birmingham with a passion (not from there originally btw) - we lived not far from Moseley and the general vibe was brilliant. There's LOTS for children - botanical gardens. Kids City at Millenium Point, good pools outside the city, Zoo in Dudley, Safari Park, The Aquarium.
For you - nightlife, restaurants, shopping are outstanding.

Some of the schools are amazing but some are terrible. The real issue is the secondary schools as its largely governed by the 11+ grammar system - and only the top ten percent of those passing that get into the five grammar schools in the city. It depends on how much you care about education.

My DP had a job opportunity that as a family, we couldn't refuse really else we probably would have stayed there.
I have to say though - much as I miss the place it would be hard to move back. It just boils down to much more crime, and my children being more likely to be mugged etc.

It's down to you as a family and what you want?

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DoItTooJulia · 06/01/2014 14:58

Yeah, it's train stations apparently.

The Principe is going to be the soon to be ex-head of King Edwards Camp Hill School for Boys....an interesting choice!

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nostress · 06/01/2014 14:11

Yes it does but the addmissions policy is based on a nodes and from memory they are going to be 1) the school itself (selly oak) 2) small heath 3) hall green and somewhere out by the jewelry quarter I think. Small heath and hall green have two heavily oversubscribed outstanding schools. So i guess its where there is 'need'.Bit irritating if you live in an area where the schools are shit and not oversubscribed!

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DoItTooJulia · 06/01/2014 13:22

The UoB are opening a Free School, which looks interesting...

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Theas18 · 05/01/2014 21:58

Brum here. Definitely think about secondary school plans assuming you have kids. The grammars are great if they suit your child. If they don't it could be tricky balance your child's abilities with the school/schools they would get a place at.

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TheGonnagle · 05/01/2014 21:20

Aww come home, you know you want to!

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perfectstorm · 05/01/2014 17:56

Nostress, no, I'm not talking about Pates. I wouldn't send a child of mine to an exam factory (my child is only 5, but the intensive coaching you need to get a child in worries me - even if the school isn't intentionally pushy, parental attitudes will be likely to make it so, and what about the kids coached who are then failures at 10/11?). But Balcarras and Cleeve are brilliant comps, both rated Outstanding, Bourneside is also very good, and at primary level you're pretty much spoiled for choice - there are so many really brilliant primary schools all over town. There are wonderful state schools in this neck of the woods at all ages, even leaving the grammars aside.

Bristol is very, very cheap compared to Cambridge or Bath or London, so it all depends on what your frame of reference is, I think? But the schools I know of aren't great, no. A lot of Bristolians seem to send their kids to grammars in Gloucestershire, in fact.

But as the OP's DH has a job in a nice part of South Brum, and family there, and it ticks all the boxes too, it's a bit of a moot point really!

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DoItTooJulia · 05/01/2014 17:24

Nurseries are around £35-£40 a day.

It's excellent seeing all the Brummie love!

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TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos · 05/01/2014 17:19

Super someone above me made the "It's cheap" comment (it very isn't!!): I said how unfriendly the Bristolians we had encountered were compared to Brummies ........ Grin.

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JennyOnAPlate · 05/01/2014 17:09

I've lived in south Birmingham for 15 years and have no plans too move. Love it here!

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SuperStrength · 05/01/2014 16:43

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos We live in Bristol & I don't underestand the 'it's cheap' comment. I wish it was Smile
In Bristol you either spend a fortune on an expensive house with a tiny garden to live in a good catchment area or spend £10k per yer per child to send them to a very average private school
Brum compares very well when looked at from this perspective...hence an ongoing debate in our house.
Brummies are much friendlier than Bristolians IMO, though it does depend on where you live.
Bristol is better than Brum for our business though....the debate rages on on .....

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