Marks and Spencer have fallen, part III; we’re gonna need a bigger boat

I live in a fairly insular part of the uk. I dare say without t’interweb or soshul meja we would have sauntered on being male or female and gay or straight. But oh no, we are all different nowadays and outside influences are impacting on our youth. I hear it everywhere - scrapping amongst themselves to be the most woke, inclusive or identifying as whatever.

But maybe things aren’t so different. My sister quite wanted to be a horse when she was little. Despite her whinnying and galloping at that tender age, all the identifying in the world didn’t make her have hooves or compete in the grand national.

Non binary is nonsense.

(I assume that non binary people don’t make any physically changes to their bodies through surgery

non binary girls are encouraged to have their breasts removed.

Question and sorry if this sounds clunky but can’t say it better. If you are non binary but have say a female body (I assume that non binary people don’t make any physically changes to their bodies through surgery)

Surely you are still as much risk to sexual assault and secret filming as someone who’s has a female body and gender matching. So isn’t it still the safest place for you away from men. Who don’t care how you identify if you still have breasts and vaginas as far as sexual assault goes.

Or does the I believe so strongly I’m
Not female that somehow nobody else will see you as female body either?

@NumbersStation - very moving post. Thank you

I'm going to ask a really stupid question. Do men actually try on clothes ? My DH never does.
I think it's not necessary for them usually, as they are the size they say they are. But women's clothes the size varies A LOT.

Im fed up , every shop in my high street has the use whatever changing room you like policy.

Me neither. I think the whole trans ideology issue and quite how unfair it is on women, has been a massive eye-opener for a lot of women. The fact that it wasn't immediately nipped in the bud has alerted many women to their second-class status.

Oh yes.

Just noticed a big Marks and Spencer sponsored fashion ad splashed across my Facebook.

Do we think they're worried?

How many changing rooms in M&S /JL menswear? A team with at least that number of women with an armful of clothes each could easily render the changing rooms unusable over a busy weekend period.. It doesn't have to be women's clothes, either; whatever's nearest. Nor do you have to get undressed. Just sit in there quietly and wait it out. No need to give the management a reason to call security, just cause an inconvenient 'blockage'.

I doubt when you come out there would be a queue though. Men, when inconvenienced, will simply go elsewhere.

.@NeurotrashWarrior

Enjoy it while you may. Pervs coming your way soon.

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6307859/Hormone-kit-lets-men-BREASTFEED-available-little-five-years.html

Sorry everyone - gloom and doom morning.

My JL has a really superb breastfeeding room. Might have to take clothes there to try on.

Boycotts. A short family history

My mother joined the Nestle boycott in 1977. We, her children, were not pleased. No more 'nesquik' chocolate milk powder (that hurt), no more of some of our favourite cereals, no more of some favourite candies. She explained how Nestle marketed powdered baby formula in Africa especially. Powdered milk where there was no clean water. Whilst not ecstatic life went on and we got used to it.

42 years later - I do not knowingly purchase Nestle products. No KitKats. No Nespresso. (We did eventually get a machine but not until there were other brands available). No cereal. No 'Toll House'.

DM died in 1997, still miss her every single day.

The current list: Nestle, M&S, Gillette, Victoria's Secret, most Unilever brands (still haven't found a substitute for Fairy). Looks like I will need to add JL and Waitrose.

Well a PP mentioned growing our own food and weaving our clothes. Better get started knitting knickers. I know how to hold a grudge.

Mom would be proud of me.

I have served my country. My country mind you. They didn’t mind that I was a woman. I served as an equal. I served the Queen. A woman.

And for what?

To be told I’m bigoted, prejudiced and a disgrace to society when I question why my rights as a woman are being whittled away and when I question why the men should do as they please.

Thank you for that.

But remember I enlisted for my country. Not just for the men.

And not for the men who sit on boards and committees and those in positions of power quietly suppressing half the population because they do not like the fact that women are just as talented and intelligent as them.

And certainly not for the men who choose to come in to our safe spaces because they say they can.

The shame is theirs.

The fact that it wasn't immediately nipped in the bud has alerted many women to their second-class status.

I’m a 70s child and when I was growing up felt society was changing for the better, believed women were being recognised as equal to men.
The last few years have shown me it’s all been just a sham, a game for some men and they are now showing us what they have actually thought all along. Women are second class citizens, women have no rights other than the scraps men deem fit to give them ....... or so they like to think. Wankers.

My stepmother, lifelong feminism refusenik, got angry about seeing toilets labelled Men's and All Gender and has been pissed off about the trans related stuff ever since. She may not be willing to call herself a feminist yet but she's thinking about the issues and she's not happy. She's not the only one.

If this was meant to be the final blow in the war on women then damn did they ever miscalculate.

You know Datun, I've never really realised just how little women's voices count until now.

Me neither. I think the whole trans ideology issue and quite how unfair it is on women, has been a massive eye-opener for a lot of women. The fact that it wasn't immediately nipped in the bud has alerted many women to their second-class status.

As I've said before, this issue is creating feminists hand over fist 😊

You know Datun, I've never really realised just how little women's voices count until now.

Women's rights - fought for over decades, centuries even - for the past 5 minutes, born males decide they want to be called women too - and everyone's straight on it! "Move aside women! These males say they're women too now - it's their identity, bigot!"

AllMums

Little Chef wouldn't serve Greenham Women, our boycott took a while to take effect but .......

James Max on Talk Radio had something on M&S at just before 6.30 this morning but the alarm had just gone off and I didnt catch it. He sounded on our side but weirdly the Talk Radio archive doesn't have his show today

One year and last month trend. Oh dear, the only thing I know about maths is it should be going the other way!

I know nothing about shares and the market but thought would look anyway. Over 5 y view

Absolutely Datun, if men choose to use ladies facilities then they are the kind of men I choose to avoid. So the men's room is the place to go

Using the men's. It's the only way. Trying on bras and frilly knicks.

No one gives a fuck what women think.

They will care what men think.

I think we're going the wrong way about this. So instead of being offended, we should be emailing our sheer delight at being able to use the changing rooms to indulge our fettish.
Which style of knickers will best accommodate my e*, and do you charge if I stain garments that I don't purchase ?
Actually I am making myself sick 😷 here