How to push for job - when somebody else is already in the role

(63 Posts)
excited99 Tue 23-Feb-21 18:27:07

I have been working for my employer for 12 years and have been in my current department for 5 years. There is a management role in another department that I feel I could do much better than the current manager. I feel that customer service could be improved and I could incorporate my skill set to change the role but make it more productive. I have spoken to my manager, he has said that he agrees I would be a good person for the job and I need to "make some noise" to push for the job. How do I do this? I dont want to go down the route of pointing out every mistake that the manager makes, however, I need to show that I could do it better. Am I completely out of order for even thinking about this?

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LadyCatStark Tue 23-Feb-21 18:29:29

You can’t just decide you can do someone’s job better than them and steal it off them 😵

doctorhamster Tue 23-Feb-21 18:29:43

You want them to sack someone and give you their job? I'm afraid it doesn't work like that op.

Hoppinggreen Tue 23-Feb-21 18:30:29

Yeah, that’s pretty shitty

WonkyCactus Tue 23-Feb-21 18:31:54

Why would you do this?! It's a good way to make everyone hate you.

Tequilamockinbird Tue 23-Feb-21 18:31:56

Huh? This can't be real.

Beforethetakingoftoastandt3a Tue 23-Feb-21 18:33:01

Can you make a play for a job above? Could a position be created?

LApprentiSorcier Tue 23-Feb-21 18:34:59

What do you envisage happening to the present manager if you are given the job?

CavernousScream Tue 23-Feb-21 18:36:17

That is some terrible advice your manager has given you. Don’t listen to anything they say again.

EarringsandLipstick Tue 23-Feb-21 18:38:39

You can’t just decide you can do someone’s job better than them and steal it off them

😂😂 absolutely! I just burst out laughing at this.

OP, wtf?!?

There is a management role in another department that I feel I could do much better than the current manager.

I mean, we've all thought this but there's nothing you can do! Maybe gently suggest to the current post-holder that you'd like a turn at doing their job (that's a joke, btw)

EarringsandLipstick Tue 23-Feb-21 18:39:30

Am I completely out of order for even thinking about this?

Ps - yes. Yes you are.

excited99 Tue 23-Feb-21 18:40:31

Ok thanks for the feedback, received loud and clear.

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mineofuselessinformation Tue 23-Feb-21 18:40:56

Were you there when this person went into the role?
Did you apply at the time?

OchreBlue Tue 23-Feb-21 18:41:41

What does 'make some noise' mean? Do you mean you want their role when they move out of it, assuming you work somewhere that people move roles a lot? Would it be a promotion for you?

DarkDarkNight Tue 23-Feb-21 18:41:49

That’s awful! Like Sali Hughes pushing the previous beauty columnist at The Guardian.

Look elsewhere for a job that suits you.

CatRamsey Tue 23-Feb-21 18:43:20

Yeah I don't think thats how it works...

WeAllHaveWings Tue 23-Feb-21 18:43:46

You need to ask him to clarify what he means, if you can't do this are you really up to major reforms of department you haven't even worked in.

Obviously, unless you are an arsehole, you aren't looking for them to sack the current incumbent. I guess options could be to ask to be transferred/seconded into the department and while working for current manager you can put forward your ideas, or offer your services if they have any significant projects you can assist in. This will put you in a good position if they do move on.

Remember everything appears easy to improve when looking from the outside in, the devil is in the detail.

Pancake4life Tue 23-Feb-21 18:44:03

You be better than them, become more visible to senior management, be vocal with your ideas, drive & essentially do the job so its clear you would be better in the position. the rest is down to management recognising it and deciding if they want changes but thats the best you can do.

Palavah Tue 23-Feb-21 18:45:46

The only way I can see you pulling this off is if the other manager would be interested in a job swap with you.

FossilisedFanny Tue 23-Feb-21 18:47:26

Make some noise ? How ? Walk around singing ’Simply The Best’ ?

Toilenstripes Tue 23-Feb-21 18:48:51

I had this happen and when I realised this woman had her eye on my job I let her know she was seriously out of line.

HighHeelBoots Tue 23-Feb-21 18:49:54

FossilisedFanny
grin

Moondust001 Tue 23-Feb-21 18:50:37

And your manager is just as bad or worse. You do not discuss the performance of a colleague with a member of staff.

WhySoSensitive Tue 23-Feb-21 18:50:45

Is there more to the story OP?

I can think of many many people I’ve worked with who I KNOW I can do a better job than, doesn’t mean I start pushing them out to get the role!

clipcloptrop Tue 23-Feb-21 18:51:19

You may be a great candidate for the job but i suspect you would lose all respect by pushing your way into the role OP. hmm

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