Kate Smurthwaite of Cruella Blog pickets Sebastian Horsley's funeral(1001 Posts)
good for her. I have never been able to work out why Sebastian Horsley was so lionised - he didn't even write particularly well.
Thanks for posting this dittany. I was aware of SH but never realised the extent to which he used prostitutes.
Drives me up the wall that Polanski is still adored in Hollywood .
Yes, echoing that thanks.
And reading the mention of Amis made me think of this review of one of his books, which was delightful to read
Oh is Kate the lady who was in the BBC3 documentary about the London Feminist Network - the comedien?
I really admire people who get involved in direct action.
Picketing the man's funeral? What a disgrace.
Yes, and others posted that they didn't agree (and others who haven't posted will not have agreed). Just like I am disagreeing. Oh, and Dittany, "The biggest misogynists and patriarchs are always the most popular in the patriarchy"?? What a bizarre remark. If you did an extensive poll of people in the UK, I doubt most people would have a clue who Sebastian Horsley was. As for Martin Amis, well - if you're going to go on book sales alone, I think you will find that Dan Brown and JK Rowling have outsold all MA's books many, many times over...
You could have picked other people's remarks. You chose to pick that one, as if it was representative of all the comments there. But then, similarly, ANY funeral where the coffin goes through the streets could be argued to be a 'public spectacle', not just his. Picketing a funeral is low - not that I expect you to appreciate that, though if it was someone other than him, perhaps someone you admired, for instance, I strongly imagine you'd be outraged Furthermore, it's rather glib of you to insist that his fame came from his abuse of women. I'd say he was more well known for abusing himself (the crucifixion, the drugs) but I do realise you are only capable of seeing things from just the one perspective, so any discussions with you tend to be less than fruitful. Anyway, he's dead, and anyway, your lauding of some bird who turned up with a banner at his funeral would not bother him a jot, I quite assure you.
Personally I don't think picketing a man's funeral is appropriate.
Picket and campaign against the bloke when he is alive, yes. Not picket his funeral - he is dead and won't give a shit, it is not his relative's fault he was a vile human being.
Yes, why didn't she do something when he was alive?
LOL @ Lady Thompson - I agree - He was quite deliberately shocking in many ways including his religious provocation, open drug use and class snobbery. But I thought more than anything he was a bit sad - and furthermore was a prostitute himself at some times in his life, so he wasn't simply a black and white misogynist case as you suggest
I don't give a shit about all the women Horsley abused? I don't know where to start with that extraordinary remark - in fact, don't think I'll even bother...And you have the cheek to accuse me of telling you your motivations! Ridiculous!
I know you think that using words like 'bird' smites at the heart of what you see as the incessant and worldwide subjugation of women, but I am afraid I simply don't agree. Actually, I think your bellyaching about such things merely distracts from the real and more pressing feminist issues. I don't expect you to understand what they are, as you don't appear to have any perspective, so please don't bother hectoring me about it. I hope I can inculcate in my daughters (the one I have and the one I am carrying) the very perspective on issues you appear either to lack.
Oh, and I'm not really very interested in how Kate Smurthwaite conducted herself in conversations with Sebastian.
Oh, and that previous post was addressed to Dittany in case there was any doubt!
LadyBlaBlah - yes, I agree.
I didn't finish that final sentence of my third paragraph, and I can't really be bothered; but I am sure you get the gist.
I don't have to justify or elaborate on my thoughts about women in prostitution to you, Dittany, though I will say that only a monster would think it wasn't a tragedy when anyone, man or woman or, God forbid, child, is forced into prostitution.
However, please refrain from your shabby observations about what you feel it may have been like to be a friend of his. Or even if can't/won't, I would simply suggest to you that they reflect more negatively on you than on me.
Low, low, low, to picket a funeral.
Hardly affected the man himself, just made a difficult more difficult for his loved ones.
Cannot support that action.
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