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I made a mistake of going into Lush and trying to buy...

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Underthestairsbears · 14/10/2021 14:18

Something for a guy...!!!

I just popped into my local Lush, they used to have a 'bloke section' so I kept wandering around looking for it...
Of course one of the helpful assistants came over and asked if she could help.
I said "oh I can't find your bloke section "

Poor young woman looked rather pale and launched into her "oh we don't have a men's section. It's all inclusive "
Lovely, so I asked where I might find something that might appeal to a teenage boy.

The only thing she could point me towards was a "beard cream" and I explained he didn't have a beard!

She then dragged another more senior young lady over... who then started on and on about being inclusive and how everything in LUSH us for everyone....it as I tried to escape....!

I tried to see if they had gift sets that might appeal to him....

Ok, it didn't need to be masculine per se but honestly it's like they've eradicated men from LUSH...

I'm not sure if that's the look they were going for...and also isn't it usually the other way round 🙄

Couldn't make head nor tail of it but I didn't escape easily.... literally had to hot foot it out of there quickly to avoid another encounter!

Does anyone else find it's getting harder to shop efficiently for what you want because things have to be so woke...

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JoodyBlue · 14/10/2021 14:20

Sorry - but that did make laugh - beard cream! hahahahaha

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CSJobseeker · 14/10/2021 14:23

Tbf, I'm not sure why you needed a 'bloke' section? I mean, choose a scent you know he likes, and get something in that scent.

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WomaninBoots · 14/10/2021 14:24

Last time I was in a Lush I ended up getting getting my arm washed and I wasnt sure how I had got there... so I haven't been back since.

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Angel2702 · 14/10/2021 14:26

The scents in lush appeal to anyone. Even the packaging isn’t exactly feminine so don’t see why you need a ‘bloke’ section in there.

Although I don’t think my teenage boys would be enthused about any product from lush regardless of what section it came from.

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Underthestairsbears · 14/10/2021 14:26

Literally I said the 'bloke section' because there was one previously and I thought they'd had a move around. It's much easier if it's all in the same place.

My issue was being LUSH-splained by two ladies old enough to be my kids who couldn't direct me to a few suitable products without a lecture!

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ErrolTheDragon · 14/10/2021 14:26

I don't know why you need a 'bloke' section in lush anyway, other than if they do products like shaving soaps perhaps.

Tbh your rookie error was going into lush in the first place - its products are not 'inclusive' of anyone with a decent sense of smell.

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NecessaryScene · 14/10/2021 14:29

Yeah, not convinced that blokes are necessarily going to find anything in a "bloke" section from Lush any more appealing than the rest of the stuff from the other section.

I thought they'd always just had a mixture of more-or-less feminine coded stuff. Did they ever have anything specifically "For Men (manly growl)"?

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ErrolTheDragon · 14/10/2021 14:29

I think perhaps you're understandably enough sensitised to the word 'inclusive' because it's so often used now in situations where there's a totally valid reason for differentiation by sex. But bathing products really aren't in that category - more like eg toys which should just be arranged by function without unnecessary 'gendering'.

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NecessaryScene · 14/10/2021 14:29

The scents in lush appeal to anyone.

Um. Hmm

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RightsHoardingRaptor · 14/10/2021 14:30

They did have a men's section before though with quirky bloke names on the products. I can see why the OP asked

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AssassinatedBeauty · 14/10/2021 14:33

They used to have a range aimed at men and a section of the shop labelled the same. Obviously they can't bear to do that any more. So it isn't a mad thing to ask the store staff about. They should have been able to explain the reorganisation and point the OP towards the products that used to be in the range and now are not separately indicated.

Trying to give the OP a lecture about "inclusivity" is not a useful thing to be doing if they want a sale.

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Ghostsintheshelf · 14/10/2021 14:35

Buy some "inclusive" soap. Wrap it in black or khaki paper and write WILD or SAVAGE or UNTAMED on it. You've got man soap.

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thepiratequeen · 14/10/2021 14:35

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3985931-Lush-Edinburgh-say-they-wouldnt-serve-anyone-in-woman-T-shirt
I haven't shopped in Lush since this happened. I can't understand why companies don't just sell their products. Alienating customers in order to appear "woke" is not good business.

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JojobaFromOctober · 14/10/2021 14:36

I don't see why soap needs to be gendered. I've seen similar objections to shops removing boys' toys and girls' toys sections - some people genuinely liked being able to quickly find all the stereotypical stuff.

But I'm gender critical, so my stance is that products should not be gendered unless it's something that's actually to do with the sexed body. Anybody can like or dislike the smell of strawberries or bath bombs or whatever and there is no reason to say these things for one sex or the other.

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TreXX · 14/10/2021 14:37

I think it's fair enough not to have a bloke section. That's the kind of inclusivity I can get behind.

The rest is just marketing surely. I really don't see a problem with this!

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ClaudiaWankleman · 14/10/2021 14:38

honestly it's like they've eradicated men from LUSH...

What?

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JojobaFromOctober · 14/10/2021 14:38

I agree they shouldn't have been lecturing you as a customer, though.

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SecondClassmyass · 14/10/2021 14:43

Not sure I know many blokes who would want a migraine inducing gift from lush? Might be wrong though
However it’s a bit like going to a builders supplies store and asking where is the ladies section of pink screwdrivers and crystal embellished hammers please?

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MsFogi · 14/10/2021 14:43

@thepiratequeen

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3985931-Lush-Edinburgh-say-they-wouldnt-serve-anyone-in-woman-T-shirt
I haven't shopped in Lush since this happened. I can't understand why companies don't just sell their products. Alienating customers in order to appear "woke" is not good business.

Agreed!
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BeastOfBODMAS · 14/10/2021 14:45

This reminds me of the time my brother bought me a Christmas present unsupervised. His girlfriend pointed him to Lush as their products are vegan. He went in and picked out bath bombs which, to his eyes, were shaped like pieces of broccoli because they must be the ones for vegans!

They are in danger of being even more confusing for the average male with this development

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Lottapianos · 14/10/2021 14:46

'My issue was being LUSH-splained by two ladies old enough to be my kids who couldn't direct me to a few suitable products without a lecture!'
Grin

God yes, the explaining and the sermonising..... Bloody tedious

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trappedsincesundaymorn · 14/10/2021 14:47

The scents in lush appeal to anyone except those that can't even walk pass the place without looking like they've been pepper sprayed.

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Viviennemary · 14/10/2021 14:47

Beard cream. That made me laugh too. Grin

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AssassinatedBeauty · 14/10/2021 14:48

@SecondClassmyass

Not sure I know many blokes who would want a migraine inducing gift from lush? Might be wrong though
However it’s a bit like going to a builders supplies store and asking where is the ladies section of pink screwdrivers and crystal embellished hammers please?


It's not though. Because they used to do a specific mens range. And they still sell products acceptable to most men. They're just mixed in now amongst the other products, and the staff apparently aren't allowed to indicate them to you! Even if they know full well what products you mean.
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HowardNoir · 14/10/2021 14:53

I want to support them more because of their inclusivity and anti-jkr stuff but the last time I went the assistant recommended a rose scented face mask for my husband, despite me saying "he'll use anything but a face mask as it gets in his beard.". The stores are always as accessible as a turnip with all the shite on the floor and mini stands all over the place. Damn it!

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