Marion Millar's case delayed again

(251 Posts)
Cabinfever10 Mon 04-Oct-21 14:10:27

As the title says yet again today's hearing/legal arguments have been rescheduled this time until the 1st of November. 🤬🤬

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Artichokeleaves Mon 04-Oct-21 14:12:25

Have they actually managed to work out and tell her what it is they want her dragged back to court for yet, or is this a case of them needing more time to think?

I look forward to her counter claim for this farcical mucking about. Poor woman.

purpleboy Mon 04-Oct-21 14:14:58

It's disgraceful really. The stress she is under from this farcical process is just a joke. I hope common sense prevails soon and charges are dismissed.

yourhairiswinterfire Mon 04-Oct-21 14:16:45

Psychological torture. What an absolute farce.

Jaysmith71 Mon 04-Oct-21 14:18:51

It's as if they're embarrassed to be going through with this and hope if they keep kicking it down the road it will get lost in the long grass somewhere.

We must wait for the hearing, but I note the defendant's costs are rising. What will the judge have to say about them?

Cabinfever10 Mon 04-Oct-21 14:37:51

@Artichokeleaves she was told the charges 10 minutes before last month's hearing.
1, that ribbon tweet
2, allegedly lieing about a police officer (her tweet about the police officer whom MM claims threatened her with social services)
3, linking to said police officers puff piece ON THE POLICES OWN WEB SITE

I have been told that if she wins the hearing not only will all charges have to be thrown out of crt but it could see the hate crime law being struck off the statute (IANAL so don't understand how/why this could be or even if it's correct)

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yourhairiswinterfire Mon 04-Oct-21 14:43:16

it could see the hate crime law being struck off the statute (IANAL so don't understand how/why this could be or even if it's correct)

From the last court appearance, it seems to be because the hate crime law is incompatible with the human rights/free speech laws.

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Artichokeleaves Mon 04-Oct-21 14:45:34

Thank you Cabin , interesting to know!

Pineapplepyjamas Mon 04-Oct-21 14:45:36

Should these details be being discussed?

Jaysmith71 Mon 04-Oct-21 14:51:53

Pineapplepyjamas

Should these details be being discussed?

Do not mention the name of the actor or the copper, and do not state that you think MM is guilty or innocent.

Datun Mon 04-Oct-21 14:53:11

Maybe the police have decided they don't want any more bad press at the expense of women and are trying to figure out how to emerge from this without looking hopelessly misogynistic.

KittenKong Mon 04-Oct-21 14:55:49

Cabinfever10

*@Artichokeleaves* she was told the charges 10 minutes before last month's hearing.
1, that ribbon tweet
2, allegedly lieing about a police officer (her tweet about the police officer whom MM claims threatened her with social services)
3, linking to said police officers puff piece ON THE POLICES OWN WEB SITE

I have been told that if she wins the hearing not only will all charges have to be thrown out of crt but it could see the hate crime law being struck off the statute (IANAL so don't understand how/why this could be or even if it's correct)

This is is big... I hope her lawyers and Rottweilers. And I hope she sues.

KittenKong Mon 04-Oct-21 14:56:04

*Are Rottweilers...

CuriousaboutSamphire Mon 04-Oct-21 15:24:46

Pineapplepyjamas

Should these details be being discussed?

The detail we currently have is all we should discuss. No more, just the facts that are in the public domain, but no names, no pack drill.

nauticant Mon 04-Oct-21 15:45:33

Maybe the police have decided they don't want any more bad press at the expense of women and are trying to figure out how to emerge from this without looking hopelessly misogynistic.

Appoint a hearing, cancel it, keep doing this, keep grinding down the defendant, and then hope they'll accept when you offer them a lesser charge to escape the misery of the process. This way the prosecuting authorities can save face and it doesn't risk undermining the hate crime legislation.

LizzieSiddal Mon 04-Oct-21 15:46:03

I too think they are delaying because there is a lot of panicking going on behind the scenes.

I hope she’s able to sure the pants off someone when this is all over.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 04-Oct-21 15:57:18

KittenKong

*Are Rottweilers...

I have seen people complaining on twitter that her lawyers are the wrong sort of lawyers (ie defended someone the tra tweeter disagreed with). So, I assume that means they are decent.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 04-Oct-21 15:58:28

I think Marion said there was a press release about the further delay, but I've not seen it anywhere yet.

In better news her website is back up again

CharlieParley Mon 04-Oct-21 16:03:45

I have been told that if she wins the hearing not only will all charges have to be thrown out of crt but it could see the hate crime law being struck off the statute (IANAL so don't understand how/why this could be or even if it's correct)

Unfortunately, the hate crime law is not going to be struck off the statute if the charges against MM are dropped or she is found not guilty.

The reason is simply that she was not charged under the new hate crime law, so nothing that happens at the hearing can have an impact on that law.

And judging from the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act (a previous and similarly bad law that led to countless discriminatory charges, predominantly against young Catholic men), it will take years of campaigning to change the new hate crime law away from being a new blasphemy law into something less totalitarian.

RoyalCorgi Mon 04-Oct-21 16:05:16

Datun

Maybe the police have decided they don't want any more bad press at the expense of women and are trying to figure out how to emerge from this without looking hopelessly misogynistic.

That does assume a capacity for critical thinking and willingness to consider public reaction that has so far been woefully lacking.

ACNHMAMA Mon 04-Oct-21 16:06:21

Usually court cases get delayed because the court is double booked or the judge has an emergency appointment on the golfcourse

Gumbomambo Mon 04-Oct-21 16:07:19

I just hope she's ok. It must be absolutely awful, the constant shit on social media, the fear of her safety, the worry about long term mental health damage, the sheer terror of worrying about paying for it. I thing she's so brave but under the surface her legs must be going like the clappers to keep her floating serenely along. It's just appalling it keeps getting delayed.

jhuizinga Mon 04-Oct-21 16:09:51

It's again possible to do some gardening on behalf of Marion if you know where to look.

Blackopal Mon 04-Oct-21 16:10:48

Agree, can't imagine what it feels like to be MM at the moment.

CatherinaJTV Mon 04-Oct-21 17:02:43

Cabinfever10

*@Artichokeleaves* she was told the charges 10 minutes before last month's hearing.
1, that ribbon tweet
2, allegedly lieing about a police officer (her tweet about the police officer whom MM claims threatened her with social services)
3, linking to said police officers puff piece ON THE POLICES OWN WEB SITE

I have been told that if she wins the hearing not only will all charges have to be thrown out of crt but it could see the hate crime law being struck off the statute (IANAL so don't understand how/why this could be or even if it's correct)

your regular reminder that it is best NOT to speculate about the content of an ongoing trial. hmm

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