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Article about Sturgeon's Gender Recognition Reform Bill

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PostingForTheFirstTime · 20/09/2021 11:08

thecritic.co.uk/sturgeon-on-the-hook/

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Cailin66 · 20/09/2021 11:15

That's brilliant, you lovely ladies (and some gentlemen) name checked on there. Well done. Flowers Star

= Indeed, Westminster politicians back-pedaled on self-ID after sturdy opposition from an informal, but effective, coalition of women’s groups, including Mumsnet, with support from prominent women such as JK Rowling.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/09/2021 11:19

Grin
I love Mumsnet now being defined as a women's group. Reading this rather glorious thread, I can see why that's happened:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4350840-The-GC-what-now-Are-we-the-cult?reverse=1

Grin Grin

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ArabellaScott · 20/09/2021 11:55

Oh, Johann Lamont has nailed it here:

'Pondering on why Nicola Sturgeon seems determined to push through self-ID in the face of growing opposition, Lamont says:

I think she thought it was a win-win situation. She could look radical, without actually doing very much. It’s a mark of her leadership actually, the message is more important than the substance.'

And yes, good to see Mumsnet acknowledged as a menstruators cervix-havers woman's group.

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Rhannion · 20/09/2021 13:02

Great article thanks for sharing, more and more sunlight.

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littlbrowndog · 20/09/2021 19:09

Awesomeness 🏌️‍♀️🏌️‍♀️💪💪❤️‍🔥

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littlbrowndog · 20/09/2021 19:10

Feminist to her fingernails 🤮

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FemaleAndLearning · 20/09/2021 19:16

Link to the proposed bill. I was asking questions on another thread so will link to this thread.
www.gov.scot/publications/gender-recognition-reform-scotland-bill-consultation-scottish-government/pages/6/

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FemaleAndLearning · 20/09/2021 19:25

I'm interested in what the article said about cross border effects. If you normally reside in Scotland you can self id, but what if you move to England, surely this means you would have to apply for an English GRA? So confused.

“Other concerns include cross-border effects and the potential misuse of privacy provisions. Nor has the Scottish Government produced any evidence to support its view that the proposed changes would not have a negative impact on women and girls,” it read.

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FlyingOink · 20/09/2021 22:08

@FemaleAndLearning

I'm interested in what the article said about cross border effects. If you normally reside in Scotland you can self id, but what if you move to England, surely this means you would have to apply for an English GRA? So confused.

“Other concerns include cross-border effects and the potential misuse of privacy provisions. Nor has the Scottish Government produced any evidence to support its view that the proposed changes would not have a negative impact on women and girls,” it read.

That could be a brilliant way for Sturgeon to back out of this mess. She could blame England too. She'd love that.

There you go, Nicola, if you're reading. I've solved your problem for you. Dump it and blame Westminster. Boom.
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FemaleAndLearning · 20/09/2021 22:20

FlyingOink
Ha ha didn't think of that as a way out for Nicola. I'm not very politically savy. Kind of you to give her that one for free!
Someone did ask on another thread "what if I identify as Scottish?" which made me laugh! You would only need to identify and live as a Scottish person for 3 months to qualify, but I think that would need a whole new thread.

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FlyingOink · 20/09/2021 23:25

Almost a million Scots in rUK too, technically possible for one to self-id under Scottish rules if they change. Could actually impact rUK more than Scotland in theory. I hope she uses this border issue as a get-out Grin

Article about Sturgeon's Gender Recognition Reform Bill
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