Judicial College Misrepresents the law re transgender people

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KeepPrisonsSingleSex Wed 12-May-21 10:25:03

The Equal Treatment Bench Book is published by the Judicial College as a guide for judges and others working within the courts. It contains suggestions of measures that can be taken in order to ensure that all who participate in the legal process are able to do so equitably and fairly.

A new edition of the ETBB was published earlier this year. Regrettably, it misrepresents the law on transgender people and goes so far as to imply that deadnaming and misgendering may be criminal acts.

Institutional capture runs deep within the criminal justice system and has an adverse effect at every level.

Our article on the Equal Treatment Bench Book is published today at Conservative Home:

www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2021/05/radical-the-criminal-justice-system-has-been-thoroughly-captured-by-gender-identity-ideology.html

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FromHereToModernity Wed 12-May-21 10:31:53

Thank you.

I hope all the new and the re-elected Conservative Police and Crime Commissioners read this article. They are in the majority.

Can you send it to them all, perhaps?

Ereshkigalangcleg Wed 12-May-21 11:04:43

This is an excellent piece, and very worrying, @KeepPrisonsSingleSex. Thank you.

KeepPrisonsSingleSex Wed 12-May-21 11:12:16

We have already seen a shift in how crime is presented by the media, this makes it even less likely that cases will be accurately reported in the press. It also sets the scene for reporting restrictions to be put in place and for cases to be heard in private.

There will now be even less transparency and accuracy.

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soberodent Wed 12-May-21 13:35:29

dont worry guys the judiciary actually doesn't know the law, now come visit "conservative home", where we are very pro womens rights like all good tories

is this really what "radical feminism" has fallen to? vote tory, attend heritage foundation panels, get comfortable at www.conservativehome.com?

toffeebutterpopcorn Wed 12-May-21 13:36:44

Does it also comment on sentences - we have seen seemingly lenient sentencing on the basis of ‘they won’t survive well in jail’ or ‘they’ve had a hard time’ or ‘they’ve suffered’. This is, of course for all sentencing really...

Ereshkigalangcleg Wed 12-May-21 13:56:40

is this really what "radical feminism" has fallen to? vote tory, attend heritage foundation panels, get comfortable at www.conservativehome.comm^?

Good luck getting it published in a left wing publication. The left has utterly let women down. Take a look at the threads about Labour, and wake up.

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Ereshkigalangcleg Wed 12-May-21 13:59:53

This matters fundamentally because it communicates a lie. It matters in court when victims and witnesses are instructed that the evidence they give must be “respectful of pronouns”.  Victims of violent offences have been compelled to use female pronouns to refer to their male attackers. Males convicted of sexual offences against children have been referred to at trial as female. Where do the limits lie concerning who will be compelled to describe their male attacker as a woman?  

Words are powerful, and the drip-drip effect of repeated reporting that serious violent and sexual offences have been committed by women distorts our understanding of the known differences between patterns of male and female offendingg^^ . This affects our thinking about risk and safeguarding. Transparency and openness in judicial processes are important principles. It should only be in rare and carefully justified circumstances that the right to privacy requires reporting restrictions or a private hearing. Referring to biological sex, ‘misgendering’ or ‘deadnaming’ are not such circumstances. ^

It's important that these issues are raised.

persistentwoman Wed 12-May-21 14:07:17

soberodent

dont worry guys the judiciary actually doesn't know the law, now come visit "conservative home", where we are very pro womens rights like all good tories

is this really what "radical feminism" has fallen to? vote tory, attend heritage foundation panels, get comfortable at www.conservativehome.com?

No comment on the issue of the regulatory capture of the judiciary that works against women's interest and legal rights I see?
Just smearing women speaking out. Depressingly typical.

FromHereToModernity Wed 12-May-21 14:14:46

Oh no am I being scolded again for giving a shit?

soberodent Wed 12-May-21 14:32:58

why is it that these women feel the need to speak out through the medium of conservative institutions that have in the past directly opposed the rights of sexual minorities, people of colour and women? surely working with, supporting and voting for those organisations would be throwing those people under the bus to torture trans people, and if so, why do so many so called feminists still go along with it?

soberodent Wed 12-May-21 14:33:04

why is it that these women feel the need to speak out through the medium of conservative institutions that have in the past directly opposed the rights of sexual minorities, people of colour and women? surely working with, supporting and voting for those organisations would be throwing those people under the bus to torture trans people, and if so, why do so many so called feminists still go along with it?

sanluca Wed 12-May-21 14:37:28

Because the rest ignore us? How else can you make your voice heard?

Ereshkigalangcleg Wed 12-May-21 14:37:28

The answer as to why women are forced to speak out in non left wing media is in my post. Hope that helps.

FromHereToModernity Wed 12-May-21 14:38:47

Oh no am I being scolded again for giving a shit?

soberodent Wed 12-May-21 14:47:41

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KeepPrisonsSingleSex Wed 12-May-21 14:48:08

Should I be silent unless and until a left-leaning (how left is left, BTW?) institution is willing to publish me? In this particular case, I was asked to write something and I did. I am equally happy to write articles for left-leaning publications. Last year I was asked to write something for the Centre for Crime and Justice Studies.

I should point out that 'political purity' is not how Parliament and the business of government works. That ALL PARTY Parliamentary Groups exist should be one indication of this.

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CrazyNeighbour Wed 12-May-21 15:02:57

Wasn’t the bench book rewritten by Transactivists (for transactivists)?

soberodent Wed 12-May-21 15:04:34

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CrazyNeighbour Wed 12-May-21 15:05:04

soberodent

why is it that these women feel the need to speak out through the medium of conservative institutions that have in the past directly opposed the rights of sexual minorities, people of colour and women? surely working with, supporting and voting for those organisations would be throwing those people under the bus to torture trans people, and if so, why do so many so called feminists still go along with it?

Being told No is torturing you?

Why would women be complicit in their own erasure?

soberodent Wed 12-May-21 15:05:59

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