Jo Anderson elected Mayor of Liverpool

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Tibtom Fri 07-May-21 21:37:31

My heart sank until I realised it was Joanne and not Joe making a comeback.

First black women to lead a major british city. No idea of her politics but an achievement!

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LawnFever Fri 07-May-21 21:39:19

I was similarly confused for a minute! But good for her, great to see a woman in the role

picturesandpickles Fri 07-May-21 21:41:57

This was a little hopeful bit of news I thought, I hope she turns out to be a decent person. The other little cheering snippet from Liverpool was the Tory lost their deposit.

Tibtom Fri 07-May-21 21:42:15

Quite a coincidence

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Tibtom Fri 07-May-21 21:45:19

Not sure why it is good that the Tories lost their deposit. Plurality in politics is a good thing. Are there any other parties breaking into the Labour stranglehold who can hold begin to hold them to account?

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MeadowHay Fri 07-May-21 21:46:45

The independent candidate for mayor did really well though and it was the first time the mayoral vote in Liverpool went to second pref votes I think. Labour should definitely be worried about their position in Liverpool - as usual they take their 'heartland' areas completely for granted and people are getting increasingly disconnected from the party.

However, yes, great achievement for Joanne.

picturesandpickles Fri 07-May-21 21:47:18

Tibtom

Not sure why it is good that the Tories lost their deposit. Plurality in politics is a good thing. Are there any other parties breaking into the Labour stranglehold who can hold begin to hold them to account?

Well it depnds how you feel about the Tories I suppose! But it cheered me indeed.

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SunsetBeetch Fri 07-May-21 21:48:55

Oh,thank fuck!

Congratulations to Jo. This is a great achievement.

Tibtom Fri 07-May-21 21:53:27

Well it depnds how you feel about the Tories I suppose!

I think the good governance in politics requires a good opposition to test ideas and ask difficult questions.

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picturesandpickles Fri 07-May-21 21:57:40

Tibtom

*Well it depnds how you feel about the Tories I suppose!*

I think the good governance in politics requires a good opposition to test ideas and ask difficult questions.

I made a flippant remark which wasn't intended to start a big debate so I will not respond with my thoughts on what the lying corrupt Johnson has to offer in the field of 'good governance'!

Justhadathought Fri 07-May-21 21:59:56

Her sex and her race are/should be irrelevant. Although clearly many voted for her based on those fixed characteristics alone; and also because she's under a Labour ticket.

The best candidate didn't win, although he achieved a remarkable result given his independent status and just six weeks to organise a campaign. A campaign which was grassroots in origin and without the support and structure of affiliated political allegiance.

Personally gutted at the result. Certainly considering the unique situation in Liverpool at present.

And if we want to play identity politics, then he would have been the first ethnically Chinese leader of a major city. He didn't feel the need to push that though, or see it as in any way relevant. It isn't.

Justhadathought Fri 07-May-21 22:01:45

Quite a coincidence

some might see it as a cynical cosmic joke.

SometimesRavenSometimesParrot Fri 07-May-21 22:03:28

She’s been bankrupt twice and only about two years of council experience. Not to mention the way she behaves on socials would better befit a 14 year old than an elected official.

No hope of Liverpool being taken seriously on the world stage with her in charge. I join PP in being gutted.

Justhadathought Fri 07-May-21 22:04:10

Well it depnds how you feel about the Tories I suppose! But it cheered me indeed

The situation in Liverpool is fairly unique, and has got nothing to do with the tories. It was the usual turkeys voting for the usual Xmas, again.......Even in spite of the ex mayor having been arrested and the council still under government over-sight.,

Freespeecher Fri 07-May-21 22:10:19

Labour also blocked the three original candidates running, one of whom (Rothery) would otherwise have been the first black female mayor etc etc.

Tibtom Fri 07-May-21 22:10:32

I will not respond with my thoughts on what the lying corrupt Johnson has to offer in the field of 'good governance'!

But that is the point - they need a strong opposition so they can't get away with it. It works both ways.

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Freespeecher Fri 07-May-21 22:12:14

SometimesRavenSometimesParrot

This behaviour on socials intrigues me though I suppose it'll come out in the wash (though probably not in the pages of the Echo).

HopeClearwater Fri 07-May-21 22:23:02

This behaviour on socials intrigues me though I suppose it'll come out in the wash (though probably not in the pages of the Echo).

Might come out on the comments pages of the Echo site though grin

SometimesRavenSometimesParrot Fri 07-May-21 22:48:09

Freespeecher

SometimesRavenSometimesParrot

This behaviour on socials intrigues me though I suppose it'll come out in the wash (though probably not in the pages of the Echo).

Just lots of awfully petty things - like posting a photoshopped picture of Joe Anderson with a red wig on and saying ‘no relation...and my weave is better loll’. That kind of thing. Really unbecoming.

It’s a shame that in their supposed ‘heartland’ Labour can’t even make the effort to put forward a decent candidate

LoveSleeping Fri 07-May-21 23:12:33

Let's hope she deals with the 'serious breakdown in governance' in the City council as a priority - the recent report was shocking.

SunsetBeetch Fri 07-May-21 23:24:50

Justhadathought

Her sex and her race are/should be irrelevant. Although clearly many voted for her based on those fixed characteristics alone; and also because she's under a Labour ticket.

The best candidate didn't win, although he achieved a remarkable result given his independent status and just six weeks to organise a campaign. A campaign which was grassroots in origin and without the support and structure of affiliated political allegiance.

Personally gutted at the result. Certainly considering the unique situation in Liverpool at present.

And if we want to play identity politics, then he would have been the first ethnically Chinese leader of a major city. He didn't feel the need to push that though, or see it as in any way relevant. It isn't.

Ah ok. Must admit I don't know a great deal about politics in Liverpool, beyond Joe Anderson being an absolute pig of a man.

MyDcAreMarvel Fri 07-May-21 23:36:26

I agree Stephen Yip was the far better candidate. I am a Labour supporter always in general elections but locally not always ( although never Tory)
In Liverpool though you could have a donkey for a candidate and they would win. People didn’t vote for the person , Joanne didn’t win based on any of her merits.

Herewegoagainok Fri 07-May-21 23:36:28

I'm not surprised that the labour candidate won, but absolutely refreshing that the protest vote was for an independent.

Herewegoagainok Fri 07-May-21 23:39:34

Sorry, offensive to say that Stephen yip was a protest vote but I meant that there has been a disengagement with labour locally, and people's votes reflected that. I guess its just a shame that we have a two horse race in politics right now. Imagine a politics full of independents and without 'sides' smile

MyDcAreMarvel Fri 07-May-21 23:40:40

* donkey for a Labour candidate

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