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Gareeca Gordon conviction ~ a rare female horror killing?

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CallMeCleo · 04/05/2021 20:34

I can't remember ever hearing of a woman committing such a crime. I'm shocked, stunned, almost catatonic in disbelief.

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/phoenix-netts-murder-dismembered-gareeca-gordon-jailed-bristol-crown-court-b933139.html

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EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 04/05/2021 20:36

I’ve heard from a reliable source that this really is a woman.

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RoseRedRoseBlue · 04/05/2021 20:37

It’s horrendous isn’t it? I am very suprised at the relatively minor media coverage.

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LizziesTwin · 04/05/2021 20:39

Poor Phoenix Netts & her family. She was another COVID victim as without the pandemic she’d have moved out.

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LastRoloIsMine · 04/05/2021 20:43

Women are as capable as men at committing atrocious crimes. Myra Hindley Rose West Beverly Allitt..however it is rare so when it does happen it comes as a shock.
Women are raised to be kind, caring and none violent. So when we are it shocks us. However men are expected and almost given a free pass to be violent.

The female population will never murder in the numbers the male population does yet it always surprises me when Women kill it is a bigger deal even though we don't kill in the same numbers?

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PatsArrow · 04/05/2021 20:46

What I don't get about this case is the sheer lack of reporting of it. It's so horrific, and yes so rare to have a woman engage in violence like this. that I would have thought the MSM, bbc, sky would have been all over it.

It just feels like......a footnote. It's feels weird.

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PamDenick · 04/05/2021 20:46

Completely shocked.
And a statement from her mother (Gareeca's) as she was a very unusual character to not have any social media profile. It seemed like she flew under the radar.
RIP Phoenix.

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LastRoloIsMine · 04/05/2021 20:55

I honestly think the silence on this is unnerving

Every other female murderer has been front page news. Why not this one?

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ChattyLion · 04/05/2021 20:55

There are no words. Phoenix and family. Flowers

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 04/05/2021 21:00

when Women kill it is a bigger deal even though we don't kill in the same numbers?

It attracts a lot of media coverage because it is comparatively so rare.

One substantial advantage of GG's plea is that Phoenix Nett's family does not need to endure a trial with all of the sensationalist coverage.

She was another COVID victim as without the pandemic she’d have moved out.

Yes. If there's an enquiry, I hope there is a report into the safeguarding resources in refuges. It's so difficult for staff to have the resources conduct risk assessment and provide everybody with the support that they need. (Is there a crossover here with govt. changes to housing benefit for supported housing like DV refuges?)

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BlowDryRat · 04/05/2021 21:01

I don't understand why there isn't more media coverage of this very unusual case. It's absolutely horrific. Poor Phoenix. Poor family.

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LizziesTwin · 04/05/2021 21:05

I think that as Phoenix had led a complicated life & GG plead guilty the media have kept quiet. I saw that GG had attended an all girls’ secondary school. Her family are presumably devastated that their daughter has murdered someone.

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CallMeCleo · 04/05/2021 21:05

@LastRoloIsMine

Women are as capable as men at committing atrocious crimes. Myra Hindley Rose West Beverly Allitt..however it is rare so when it does happen it comes as a shock.
Women are raised to be kind, caring and none violent. So when we are it shocks us. However men are expected and almost given a free pass to be violent.

The female population will never murder in the numbers the male population does yet it always surprises me when Women kill it is a bigger deal even though we don't kill in the same numbers?

Two of the three you cite were the sidekicks of violent men. It is extremely unlikely that, had they never met those men, they would ever have killed.

The point about THIS case is not that a woman was violent but these aspects of it make it probably unique in the UK.

  1. Pestered the victim for sex


  1. Bought a circular saw and used it to dismember the victim into six parts


Name me even one other British female crime which incorporated these acts.
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CallMeCleo · 04/05/2021 21:14

Incidentally I have searched the GRO online for Gareeca's birth (they say she was from London) and nobody of that name was born in the UK at any time. Change of name?

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Rhannion · 04/05/2021 21:17

What a terrible, appalling murder, my heart goes out to the family and friends of Phoenix

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womanity · 04/05/2021 21:20

@CallMeCleo

Incidentally I have searched the GRO online for Gareeca's birth (they say she was from London) and nobody of that name was born in the UK at any time. Change of name?

I think I read she came here at around 7. Can’t remember where though - likely Sky or BBC, I’ve not read much about it.
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CallMeCleo · 04/05/2021 21:21

Mystery solved: she was born in Jamaica and came here in 2000.

Someone on Reddit says they went to school together, so there is not a shadow of a doubt that this she is female.

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Melroses · 04/05/2021 21:21

@CallMeCleo

Incidentally I have searched the GRO online for Gareeca's birth (they say she was from London) and nobody of that name was born in the UK at any time. Change of name?

I thought she had moved there from Jamaica.
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Shizuku · 04/05/2021 21:22

Utterly horrific.

If she goes to a women's prison, how will the other prisoners be protected from her?

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AnnaMagnani · 04/05/2021 21:36

From the very limited info available Gareeca appears to have had a personality disorder, been sexually abused and been in an abusive relationship.

Her childhood was probably horrific and as a result she ended up a dangerous violent mess.

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LastRoloIsMine · 04/05/2021 21:37

Two of the three you cite were the sidekicks of violent men. It is extremely unlikely that, had they never met those men, they would ever have killed.

I totally acknowledge that but they were and still are front page news thats my point. Even when they are not the "killer" the women are still front page news for many years after.
Why isn't this woman?


1. Pestered the victim for sex

Unusual yes but not unheard of.

2. Bought a circular saw and used it to dismember the victim into six parts

Very unusual. I agree. Female murders tend to be disposers not dismemberers. Too much mess. Too much clean up. Too much in general.
Historically women are in the moment murderers or throw away murderers as in dump babies in rivers or pretend it was natural. Women very rarely go in for dissection.

I distrust the media so much at the moment I have decided to keep my thoughts to myself on this one.

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Pota2 · 04/05/2021 21:39

There are definitely instances of violent female killers, eg Joanna Denehy in the UK and Katherine Knight in Australia. Also, the idea that Rose West wouldn’t have killed if she hadn’t met Fred isn’t borne out by the fact that she murdered Fred’s daughter, Charmaime, when Fred was in prison. This was before they began their murders in earnest. There are also women who have been involved in dismemberment such as Shauna Hoare, who helped kill Becky Watts.
And of course women who have committed planned and brutal murders, such as Jodi Arias in the US, who stabbed her ex-boyfriend 27 times and then slit his throat.

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