One down, 20 million to go!

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BrizzleGirl Tue 20-Apr-21 13:30:03

So I asked my mate’s very woke daughter about how she felt about a trans woman being in the female toilets? She responded that she wouldn’t be bothered at all. Live and let live, an’ all that. Hmmm, so I asked how would she feel if the same trans woman showered in the open plan gym changing area, with their penis fully on show.

She obviously wasn’t impressed with that scenario, so I asked how there can be one rule for one single sex area and one rule for another. She couldn’t answer.

The daughter is a very keen amateur cyclist, I asked if she thought that trans women could compete in women only categories. Absolutely wasn’t happy about that!

I then showed her the British Cycling trans policy! Particularly ~

Accept all Participants in the gender they present; verification of their identity should be no more than expected of any other person

Support the Transgender or Non-Binary Participant with their choice of changing facilities

Well, the scales fell from her eyes, well and truly!

She is now actively sharing the British Cycling Transgender Consultation . I feel we are slowly slowly getting there!!

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WarriorN Tue 20-Apr-21 13:33:43

Well done! More dot joining 👏

R0wantrees Tue 20-Apr-21 13:35:21

She is now actively sharing the British Cycling Transgender Consultation . I feel we are slowly slowly getting there!!

England Rugby (closes 5th May)

www.englandrugby.com/about-rfu/rfu-policies/transgender-policy

thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4206745-Rugby-RFU-seeking-feedback-on-its-transgender-policy

British Cycling Consultation (ends 30/4)

www.britishcycling.org.uk/about/article/20210325-about-bc-news-British-Cycling-launches-consultation-on-Transgender-participation-policy-0

thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4202090-British-Cycling-Consultation-on-Transgender-Policy

CornedBeef451 Tue 20-Apr-21 13:36:51

Well done! I have won over my sister through safeguarding issues and one of my very woke nieces, she is working on the other one for me as I am currently Aunty TERF.

I've also dropped things into conversation with various friends and a few are now looking into it themselves.

Unfortunately I can't mention it to DH any more as "that doesn't happen" comes up too often.

NonnyMouse1337 Tue 20-Apr-21 16:35:16

That's really awesome BrizzleGirl. I like how you patiently walked her through the scenarios and got her to think things through. There is a very emotive, knee jerk element in the superficial "be kind" stance, but once people are allowed time to think through the consequences of gender ideology, most end up horrified and concerned. You did well. smile

FannyCann Tue 20-Apr-21 21:16:23

Brilliantly well done @BrizzleGirl

I might have to ask you round to chat to my DD one of these days...

Erkrie Tue 20-Apr-21 22:48:08

Well done. It does change things when people have all the information necessary.

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RoyalCorgi Wed 21-Apr-21 09:49:00

I asked how there can be one rule for one single sex area and one rule for another.

This is a really important point. People like to show off how relaxed and worldly they are by saying they wouldn't mind trans women in women's toilets. But once you've conceded that principle, why not trans women in hospital wards, changing rooms, women's prisons etc?

Well done, OP.

TeamCuthbert Wed 21-Apr-21 09:56:02

Well done OP!

BrizzleGirl Thu 22-Apr-21 08:13:39

Thanks all. Was a proud moment smile

Def learnt something about how to explain the situation. Slowly, slowly catchee monkey!

Now to see if I can get my adult son to see the light. 🙄

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Jux Thu 22-Apr-21 15:11:21

Please come to my house and talk to my dd, too. She's not particularly woke, but she's intransigent about tw/tm; we avoid the subject these days as we both get frustrated in our own inability to explain to the other.

CuriousaboutSamphire Thu 22-Apr-21 15:15:58

Jux

Please come to my house and talk to my dd, too. She's not particularly woke, but she's intransigent about tw/tm; we avoid the subject these days as we both get frustrated in our own inability to explain to the other.

I have a friend who swears she is going to get her late teens to sit and watch that naked dating game thing with the sound off.

Male or female?
How do you know?
Did you just assume?
How transphobic...

She has gone past the point of no return though, both her kids take Be Kind literally., they are the wokest of the woke, until it comes to her.

Jux Fri 23-Apr-21 10:53:17

That's an idea. DD used to watch it from time to time , and I've seen a couple of it with her. It's vile; not sure I could bear to see any more of it.

GonadTheGaul Sat 24-Apr-21 07:30:21

Well done OP!

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