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Grim list of sex abuse claims against the Met

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WarriorN · 20/03/2021 20:18

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/20/revealed-the-grim-list-of-sex-abuse-claims-against-metropolitan-police?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

So around 100 accusations per year for the last 6 years.

Disgraceful.

I didn't particularly want Cressida Dick to resign over last weeks shambles but surely that's shockingly horribly disgustingly high? How can she allow that level of abuse?

What's the rate of accusations like across the country?

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LizzieSiddal · 20/03/2021 20:22

That’s such horrific reading. And you just know there must be many, many more incidents which women didn’t make a complaint about.

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AdaFuckingShelby · 20/03/2021 20:25

Male entitlement plus distortion and abuse of legitimate power. Toxic combination. Sadly unsurprising.

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WarriorN · 20/03/2021 20:35

I've only ever met two police officers off duty so to speak, one I remember would describe the women he 'had' as either mice ear lugs or witches sleeves.

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WarriorN · 20/03/2021 20:38

He also illegally contacted a woman who had called the police to report her husband for DV and started seeing (shagging) her.

Far end of the country to London so I'm not hopeful that this doesn't happen country wide.

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LaVitaPuoEsserePiuBella · 20/03/2021 20:40

I've just seen this. Jaw dropping.

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Hearnoevilspeaknoevil · 20/03/2021 20:41

Sadly not surprised. Toxic masculinity and the chance to abuse of power.
There's an ex met officer who lives locally. He wrote a semi autobiographical book (self published) based on his career, disturbingly misogynistic and alarming how he described the victims he encountered and who had the misfortune to have him as their IO.
Some one reported it to the Met Prof standards. They weren't interested.

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SybillTrelawney · 20/03/2021 21:23

This is awful.

Reminds me of when a policeman who was dealing with a theft I had reported in London (about 5 years ago) tried to add me on Facebook. Obviously this isn't comparable, but it still felt very inappropriate. I didn't say anything, perhaps because I felt bad about potentially getting him into trouble over something so apparently innocuous. But maybe I should have. The "friend request" is still there pending on my account (I didn't want to delete the evidence).

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Tibtom · 21/03/2021 08:49

It puts the CoP trans guidance which ignores the rights of women and girls in context...

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WarOnWomen · 21/03/2021 09:04

It's truly shocking but not surprising, unfortunately.

I would be interested to know how many were actually charged and are going/have gone through the judicial system.

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Imnobody4 · 21/03/2021 09:41

Do we all need to do a FOI request as was done for Stonewall?

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Imnobody4 · 21/03/2021 09:46

Just reading it. non-consensual sex ???
Among those was a Met officer who was dismissed after allegedly pretending to be a woman online “to advance his sexual proclivities and also film a woman apparently having non-consensual sex with a male in a public park”.

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Lifeaintalwaysempty · 21/03/2021 09:54

Read this story this morning, these stories are horrifying, police praying on the vulnerability of women time and again. But if violence and sexual violence against women has very few consequences in the justice system, what else can we expect?!

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SunsetBeetch · 21/03/2021 10:07

@WarriorN

I've only ever met two police officers off duty so to speak, one I remember would describe the women he 'had' as either mice ear lugs or witches sleeves.

I know someone who failed to get into the force on the north east twice, but got into the met no problem. He's a massive misogynist, homophobe and racist.
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alkanet · 21/03/2021 10:29

Anyone remember their Mother telling them ' if you're ever in trouble run and find a policeman.' 😕

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WarriorN · 21/03/2021 10:40

Wow Sun. as ironically, that policeman was on one of the forces in the NE.

So 'your' guy must be really bad.,Angry

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PearPickingPorky · 21/03/2021 10:44

Misogynistic men will always use whatever advantage/power/dominance they have over women to abuse them, and will actively seek out positions which give them that opportunity.

None of these men who have been caught and disciplined will have been caught the very first and only time they did something.

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52andblue · 21/03/2021 10:47

If you are in trouble perhaps a policeman is the last person you need?

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lazylinguist · 21/03/2021 10:48

Horrific. It makes my blood boil to think of these disgusting excuses for human beings getting away with this behaviour when they are employed to protect people.

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sashagabadon · 21/03/2021 10:48

Police are recruited from society and are just people like everyone else. We basically need more female officers.

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MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 21/03/2021 10:50

It is horrific, but I found the article quite confused. Men who happen to be police officers who commit acts of domestic violence and are then sacked are a separate issue from the institutionalised misogyny of the police & justice system. Unless the Met knew that they had violent and misogynistic tendencies before recruiting them, it hadn't done anything wrong in those cases, and did act appropriately when it found out. (It would be great if we could screen out men with these tendencies from entering the police, medicine, the Law etc, but at the moment we can't do so reliably, unless they have a criminal record.)

I am not minimising the suffering of their victims but I'm concerned it lets the Met off the hook to include these cases in an article about the many incidents when the Met has completely failed to take appropriate action against men who use their status as police officers to assault women, or when it fails to take violence against women seriously. Violence against women is horrific in any context, but it is much worse when a man in a position of responsibility uses that position to target women.

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lazylinguist · 21/03/2021 10:51

Police are recruited from society and are just people like everyone else.

Except that there is probably a higher proportion of abusive, misogynistic arseholes than in the general population in a job where they know the job will give them the opportunity to prey on the vulnerable and indulge their violent tendencies.

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SunsetBeetch · 21/03/2021 10:59

@lazylinguist

Police are recruited from society and are just people like everyone else.

Except that there is probably a higher proportion of abusive, misogynistic arseholes than in the general population in a job where they know the job will give them the opportunity to prey on the vulnerable and indulge their violent tendencies.

Yep. Something is obviously going wrong on the recruitment process.
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AlpiniPraline · 21/03/2021 11:02

I saw this article about the sexist culture too. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-sexism-locker-room-boys-23766285

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SunsetBeetch · 21/03/2021 11:03

*in

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lazylinguist · 21/03/2021 11:03

Something is obviously going wrong on the recruitment process.

I guess, but unless you're a complete chump, I imagine it's pretty easy to say all the right things and not reveal that you're a violent misogynist when you're being recruited, assuming you haven't already got a criminal record for any of it.

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