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Sport Scotland Equality Outcomes Consultation

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IM0GEN · 19/03/2021 10:28

YOU DON’T HAVE TO LIVE IN SCOTLAND TO COMPLETE THIS

Sport Scotland is required to publish new Equality Outcomes by the end of April and your views can help shape these outcomes for 2021-2025.

They would like to hear from as many people as possible with a variety of life and personal experiences, so we kindly ask that you complete this survey to help sportscotland develop outcomes that will make a real difference to people’s experiences of sport.

Please click to take part in sportscotland’s Equality Outcomes Consultation Survey.

www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/EqualityOutcomes21

If you would like to get involved in another way, please contact:
[email protected]

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IM0GEN · 19/03/2021 10:34

You will see that they ask specifically about 4 groups

Those in poverty / on low income
People with mental health problems
Ethnic minorities
Over 50s

However there is a space at the end to comment if you feel they have missed out any groups Hmm

The rest of the survey is very quick to complete, just boxes to tick.

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NonnyMouse1337 · 19/03/2021 10:37

Thanks for posting this!
If it hasn't been done already, would you be able to post about it in the Scotsnet board as well, please? Might get some interest there too. Smile

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Usagi12 · 19/03/2021 10:40

Yes it does seem there's a large group missing!

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ArabellaScott · 19/03/2021 10:55

Thanks. Good, clear and straightforward survey with free text boxes and space at the end to bring up any 'other' groups.

Why are women always 'other'?

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continuallyconflating · 19/03/2021 11:37

It also asked about sex rather than gender which was nice
But unfortunately I can see this being flooded by certain organised interested parties, skewing the results

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IM0GEN · 19/03/2021 13:35

@Usagi12

Yes it does seem there's a large group missing!

You know @Usagi12, it tool me ages trying to work out what tiny minority unimportant group hade been left out. One that’s 51% of the population.

I can see why Sport Scotland wouldn’t consider then important.
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Usagi12 · 19/03/2021 14:23

Well I've let them know who they've missed out. I'm sure they'll be very grateful and it was an innocent oversight!

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Leafstamp · 19/03/2021 14:35

Done. Thanks OP.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 19/03/2021 14:41

FFS

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IM0GEN · 19/03/2021 15:06

@Usagi12

Well I've let them know who they've missed out. I'm sure they'll be very grateful and it was an innocent oversight!

I’m sure you’re right - just an unfortunate oversight.

Oh look, all the senior management team at Sport Scotland are all white men. I’m sure that’s a coincidence too.

sportscotland.org.uk/about-us/who-we-are/our-senior-management-team/

Even though 5/12 Board members are women. That tiny minority group.
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andyoldlabour · 19/03/2021 15:26

Thanks OP, this was my answer to the final question.

"I think that sports governing bodies, need to look at categorising all sports by "sex" rather than "gender". At the moment, we are seeing an emergence of trans women athletes competing in women's sport and in some cases dominating them. Examples of this include Rachel McKinnon - track cycling, Laurel Hubbard - weightlifting, Hannah Mouncey - handball, Maxine Blythin - cricket, Kate Weatherley - downhill mountain biking.
Sports are categorised by "sex" for very good physiological reasons, which cannot be later negated by simply lowering testosterone levels. A male who goes through puberty, will have the following physical advantages over a female - higher muscle density/less fat, longer/stronger/denser bones, larger heart and lungs, more oxygen carrying red blood cells, leading to a more efficient cardio vascular system.
The proof of this of course, is to simply compare the World records in various sports and look at the different performances by males and females. To give you a few examples, more than 12,000 men have run faster than the women's marathon record, 15 year old boys can run faster than the women's 100m record. The US women's football team (World champions) were beaten by an U15 boy's college team."

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IM0GEN · 19/03/2021 16:12

Star answer @andyoldlabour. I fear mine was less well evidenced and more of a rant.

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Finfintytint · 19/03/2021 16:15

@IM0GEN

Star answer *@andyoldlabour*. I fear mine was less well evidenced and more of a rant.

Ha ha! Mine was a rant too.
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andyoldlabour · 19/03/2021 18:40

IM0GEN
Finfintytint

Grin Don't worry, I had been for a lovely two hour walk in the early Spring sun with my lovely DW, so my blood pressure was fairly low.
I have saved it as a Word document, so that I can re-use it as and when required.

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IM0GEN · 19/03/2021 20:12

I did try to be inclusive and say that I was against adults self identifying into children’s sports and trans able people being able to self identify into competitive disabled sport.

And that adults should have to compete in their own age and sex group. Otherwise their aim of increasing participation in the over 50s will be jeopardised by 25 year olds who feel a bit hung over / overweight and therefore identify as 58.

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ArabellaScott · 19/03/2021 20:26

Oh look, all the senior management team at Sport Scotland are all white men. I’m sure that’s a coincidence too.

50% of them are called Mike!

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Gurufloof · 19/03/2021 20:26

I've just done it and answered every question with , well women in poverty/women with MH issues etc etc. Just to make more of a point.

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IM0GEN · 19/03/2021 21:29

@ArabellaScott

Oh look, all the senior management team at Sport Scotland are all white men. I’m sure that’s a coincidence too.

50% of them are called Mike!

YY. I was resisting the urge to point out there were more men called Mike than women.

Such a shame to have so little diversity when there’s a least some women ( the old fashioned kind ) on the Board.
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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 20/03/2021 13:12

I might reply just with C+Ping the link to this thread on each question.

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