Guardian headline

[HeirloomTomato]

Has anyone shared this yet? Eddie Izzard rejoices at being 'promoted to she' on the masthead while the headline names women murdered due to male violence in the past year. Wonderful timing and juxtaposition.

Wouldn't expect anything less from the Guardian these days, however...

[nestoftables]

Yes there was a long thread earlier which got deleted, I believe because it got too personal rather than focused in the guardian

[Helleofabore]

Been there and deleted!! Sadly...

But that was because MN stated it devolved into a personal attack. If we keep this thread focused on the incredibly tone deaf front page, it might survive.

[ShirleyPhallus]

Really is shit. I can’t believe that no one spotted that

[MsSavouryPancake]

Just so disrespectful. I hate The Guardian these days . They hate women.

[Helleofabore]

So, starting off. This is an incredibly tone deaf front page and almost like the guardian is sending mixed messages.

I can’t say anymore without a deletion.

[Leafstamp]

Some further commentary and info here (email address for complaints):

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4190212-What-happened-to-the-Eddie-I-Guardian-thread

[StudentProblems]

This will be deleted. Women aren’t allowed to be angry about this or @mumsnet will silence us

[HoegaardenHappiness]

Do you think the Guardian was trolling on purpose?

Seems extreme Cognitive dissonance.

Here are women killed by men.
Here is someone who has decided to be a woman.
Can women decide not to be killed by men?

[Leafstamp]

The vibe on Twitter seems to be that EI did not choose the date of publication/positioning of the article etc, which I think seems fair enough?

That said, some of the quotes from EI are questionable.

The thread should stay if we are talking about the newspaper’s decision on timing of publishing this and position of the picture and headline - not in good taste at all.

[ShirleyPhallus]

@StudentProblems

This will be deleted. Women aren’t allowed to be angry about this or *@mumsnet* will silence us

I’m not sure that’s really fair, I think MNHQ have a difficult line to tread and generally do it pretty well

[McDuffy]

I was wondering if it was trolling or if someone at the Guardian did it on purpose as a statement... it made me feel a bit nauseous though, the dissonance

[MmeMarsaud]

Also on today's Guardian webpage, below the headline:

Women/ Men must challenge other men on women's safety, campaigner says

They have:

Sam Smith/ Singer excluded from gendered categories at 2021 Brit Awards

Crass.

[peepholepringle]

The cognitive dissonance is truly something to behold.

[OhHolyJesus]

Is it the Guardian that asks for donations on every online story? I wonder if they moved behind a paywall if their subscriptions would be as high as say The Times or the Spectator.

Poor old Huff post is closing down.

It would be interesting to see if anything changed, if readers turn away having been filled to the gills with woke BS and it hits you where it hurts. Bit late then though isn't it?

[Xpectations]

I don’t think The Guardian were deliberately trolling, I don’t think they have much regard for women, especially the murdered women featured on their front page, beyond lip service.

[UnderHisAye]

This morning the headline on the guardian website was: I've had boob envy since I was a teen.

By lunchtime that was replaced with something less FUCK YOU WOMEN.

[zanahoria]

if it was a mistake I am sure they will to apologise to Eddie

[MaudTheInvincible]

I've seen quite a few people on twitter saying this has been their push to cancel their subscriptions. Don't know if that is because of the front page or the story inside (+ headline change).

[Toseland]

Interesting @HoegaardenHappiness, that’s set me off in thinking...
when you look at the layout of that page...
The photo of EI is unusual as it is not just a head and shoulders but chest too. Also it’s big; twice the size of everything else on the page and his headline is very slightly larger in font size, bright orange and bold, with a bold subhead. Compared to the supposed page headline which is thin and black with no subheading.
So that all adds up to it reading more like:

Here is someone who has decided to be a woman
Here are women killed by men.
The designer at least is trolling.

[MissBarbary]

That front page is beyond appalling.

[HoegaardenHappiness]

Yeah def Trolling. Here are some women murdered by men.

And here’s Eddie! Who has picked up the mantle of women.

Someone really hates women. Let’s not even let the dead ones have a page to themselves

[AdHominemNonSequitur]

My husband is wokish and his take is the that both 'causes' are likely to be close to the Guardians woke little heart. I have tried to point out the juxtaposition, but he can't see it. At all. Nothing to see here.

[HeirloomTomato]

Interesting that a previous thread was deleted. I shared it from the point of view of how tone-deaf the media can be when it comes to violence against women. I'm not interested in EI's personal journey or anything else related to that topic.

Just insane to me that a mainstream, supposedly left-wing broadsheet newspaper would juxtapose the image of a male-born person speaking about the glamour of womanhood with a front-page story about the gender-based violence women have to live with every day of our lives. A gender-based violence that has led to the actual death of so many women named on the front page.

But, yes, please Guardian. Please do carry on talking about boobs and shoes with a stunning and brave 'celeb'.

[BettyFilous]

I asked DH if he’d seen the furore on Twitter about this. He said it sounded like people was over-reacting with feelings running so high about the Sarah Everard case. I showed him the front page. He was appalled and said it was tone deaf.

[MissBarbary]

@UnderHisAye

This morning the headline on the guardian website was: I've had boob envy since I was a teen.

By lunchtime that was replaced with something less FUCK YOU WOMEN.

Some of us bought the print edition