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Ireland..you could not make this up

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purplepizzabunny · 07/03/2021 00:18

A vociferous campaigner for repeal the 8th campaign, Bernie Linnane, posted just now referring to JK Rowling as an "old trout", and freely admitted she has blocked people from the ARC twitter page, even though that page is a very useful source of info for anyone looking for advice on a termination. So in summary a woman makes derogatory comments about a someone's appearance, and decides that women who do not agree with her are not entitled to access information.

twitter.com/Berlinnaeus/status/1368245476810752006

twitter.com/Berlinnaeus/status/1368247803814805504

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purplepizzabunny · 07/03/2021 00:19

Needless to say, what has triggered this is that ARC''s IWD consists of pretty much of trans women, with one trans man. So mostly people who will never have need for their services.

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quixote9 · 07/03/2021 06:15

Not sure what IWD stands for, but if I've understood, the directors or steering committee are mainly transwomen for a facility that serves biological women.

And it's working out about as well as anything does when leaders don't get it.

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Tibtom · 07/03/2021 06:30

International Women's Day

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Cailleach1 · 07/03/2021 08:24

Well, very evocative of the climate in which some women were good women and some women were bad women. Sounds like such people would have been right up there supporting the consequences for the bad women. To be treated differently as 'Magdalens'.

I hope they are not getting state funding if they are selectively blocking some women from accessing information. Complaints need to be made about that, if so. Sounds like BL would be better of advocating for TENI than women. Someone who centres women and girls could then fill the role.

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OhHolyJesus · 07/03/2021 08:25

You're right OP, you couldn't make it up...and whilst abortion is legal in Ireland it's still inaccessible due to a lack of clinic providing the service right?

Maybe they could focus on doing something about that instead of blocking people who might actually need an abortion from their Twitter...over a children's author's views and experiences...which didn't include abortion but referenced the female biology which might lead to need access to abortion.

How inclusivity excludes 50% and still ends up being labelled as 'progressive' is just insane.

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Helleofabore · 07/03/2021 08:53

We do keep being told that there are no problems in Ireland and nobody has been affected to the nee law. Just like we are told it is all good in Canada too.

No problems anywhere it seems.

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ErrolTheDragon · 07/03/2021 08:54

No problem for men and women who toe the line?

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irishfeminist · 07/03/2021 09:05

They need to change their name. Their IWD lineup includes male born people who have variously:

mocked bereaved mothers for wanting to retain the word "mother" in literature relating to stillbirths, miscarriages and late term abortions, instead of the new "birthing parent" imposed on them.

Used violent threatening language towards anyone who criticises or questions them

Devoted a long thread to mocking, insulting and wishing ill-will on Keira Bell while supporting a male sex offender being housed in a women's prison.

They are a living insult to the women who fought for reproductive rights for decades, in a far more hostile environment than they can ever imagine. They should be ashamed.

And someone needs to look into their finances because I'm pretty sure those who donated to them in good faith did not agree to this.

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EarringsandLipstick · 07/03/2021 09:05

And whilst abortion is legal in Ireland it's still inaccessible due to a lack of clinic providing the service right?

Just to correct this - no, it's not inaccessible. Services are available via GPs & hospitals, as permitted under law.

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irishfeminist · 07/03/2021 09:12

Earringsandlipstick true, but there's still a lot of work to be done in providing facilities and training that weren't there before. ARC seem to have little interest in this boring detail, preferring to promote trans rights or men's rights causes like legalising prostitution. They are an absolute disgrace.

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gardenbird48 · 07/03/2021 09:13

@quixote9

Not sure what IWD stands for, but if I've understood, the directors or steering committee are mainly transwomen for a facility that serves biological women.

And it's working out about as well as anything does when leaders don't get it.

There is an organisation called Abortion Rights.ie who are hosting a panel on abortion rights for International Women’s Day that, as I understand features five transwomen and one transman. They deployed the T word and block against anyone who questions it.

I think ARC are supporting the stance of Abortion Rights.ie and doing the same to suppress dissent.

From other tweets it sounds like the Abortion Panel discussion has been widened somewhat to talk about ‘bodily autonomy’ and seems quite focused on trans healthcare rather than abortion rights.

The pro women’s rights group ‘The Countess didn’t Fight for this’ has said that despite abortion being legalised, the lack of clinics in Ireland prevents access to abortion. I wonder what access to gender clinics in Ireland is like by comparison.

TENI is running online gender clinics which would make access very straightforward if they are following the Gendergp model.
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gardenbird48 · 07/03/2021 09:24

Here we go - Abortion Rights.ie have ditched any conversation about access to abortion on International Women’s Day:

‘the theme for this year’s IWD is #choosetochallenge. We are presenting a panel focusing on the barriers to care faced by trans people in Ireland.’

Ireland..you could not make this up
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PurpleHoodie · 07/03/2021 09:29

No words.

They need to be honest with people and state plainly they are now a men's rights organisation and no longer a womens Rights organisation.

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 07/03/2021 09:33

So women in Ireland had to sit back and listen to the Church telling them their rights and wrongs and now they have to listen to this new overlord?

The irony fairy has just shat herself.

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XXSex · 07/03/2021 09:42

Captured

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Cailleach1 · 07/03/2021 09:51

I wouldn't be clicking into that at all. If you want to support women, better to sign up to 'The Countess didn't fight for this' webinar at 2-5pm.

twitter.com/TCDFFT

or/and

'The Irish Women's Lobby' webinar, from 6:30-8:30pm.

irishwomenslobby.ie/speak-up-for-womens-rights/

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XXSex · 07/03/2021 10:11

Am signed up to both! Really looking forward to it

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ErrolTheDragon · 07/03/2021 10:16

It sounds like an organisation women need to go round rather than through.

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FionaMacCool · 07/03/2021 10:50

Why, in the name of all that is holy, are an organisation named Abortion Rights, focussing on barriers to care for trans people.

Now, I am sure, monitors, there are barriers in place for trans-health care. However, abortion in Ireland, was only signed into law in December 2018. That's just over 2 years ago.
I am equally sure, without spending a long time looking into it, that, there must be hiccups in implementing fair, equitable, widely available, non-shaming access to quality abortion services around the country.

Surely, surely, that would be the primary focus of any "abortion rights" organisation.

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notyourhandmaid · 07/03/2021 11:36

There are still difficulties with accessing abortion depending on where in the country you live, and women still travelling abroad in some circumstances.

The misogynistic language of Irish abortion-rights campaigners of the past while is so depressing.

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Cailleach1 · 07/03/2021 11:44

Shouldn't have looked, but went to see some interactions on twitter. I don't have an a/c but can have a gander. A transwoman communicating with this organisation states a couple of unusual views.

One, that they are concerned about this issue in the same way all women who can't get pregnant are. Hmm.

No. I don't think women's reproduction system applicable there..

Two, 'If they had their way, we'd be side by side in the * Laundry'.

No. Men or Transwomen weren't incarcerated or brutalised in those Laundries. Only women. Babies and young children suffered, among them boys. They lacked protection because they were the children of the women who were brutalised and incarcerated. They were left vulnerable. Made vulnerable because their mothers were put in a situation where they couldn't protect them.. The women were deemed to be 'bad' according to a men centred ideology. An ideology which protected men first and foremost; in all their guises. Now the powers that be have imported a new version of it and are determined to lay women low again.

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purplepizzabunny · 07/03/2021 12:01

Cailleach just saw that rant myself. Increasingly deranged.

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Lochmorlich · 07/03/2021 12:50

Amusingly her twitter profile has #fuck the patriarchy.

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Abitofalark · 07/03/2021 13:20

What does ARC stand for?
I don't have access to twitter, in case it is explained there.

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notyourhandmaid · 07/03/2021 13:31

Abortion Rights Campaign.

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