Very woke friend upset about gender based violence

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satishoused Wed 03-Mar-21 17:11:01

Friend is wholeheartedly of the TWAW brigade. She has however today out a whole thread on social media about a new chip shop called Jack and the Chipper which has maps of Whitechapel murder sites on its walls. She is upset about this, which is fair enough, and is speaking out about gender based violence. Very tempted to say it's sex based violence. Would that be twattish of me?

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Liquorishtoffee Wed 03-Mar-21 17:21:21

Not even remotely. ‘Jack’ murdered women because they were women.

satishoused Wed 03-Mar-21 17:33:22

If only they could have identified out of that category eh?

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yeahbutnaw Wed 03-Mar-21 17:34:27

Do you think that rapists and abusers check someone's chromosomes before attacking them?

Precipice Wed 03-Mar-21 17:39:30

No, we think that rapists and abusers can tell whether a prospective target is female or male. What they can't tell, mind, is whether the prospective target has some internal sense of gender identity.

There was a grim story I read from 2018-19 about a rape victim who cried "I'm a man" or "I identify as a man" or words to that effect to her assailant. The assailant, of course, did not care and didn't stop because of this.

Liquorishtoffee Wed 03-Mar-21 17:44:57

I think that store wasn’t entirely truthful (if it’s the one I’m thinking of) and/or this person was the most unlucky person in the history of the world as every week there seemed to be another dramatic episode in their life on twitter.

ItsIgginningtolooklikelockdown Wed 03-Mar-21 18:07:24

The term gender based violence has been around for longer than the current interpretation of gender though.

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midgedude Wed 03-Mar-21 18:08:31

Funny how he managed to only pick women without needing a chromosome check isn't it !

BrandineDelRoy Wed 03-Mar-21 18:10:36

Tell her to read, "The Five."

BrandineDelRoy Wed 03-Mar-21 18:11:51

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DreamEvenBigger Wed 03-Mar-21 18:12:24

yeahbutnaw

Do you think that rapists and abusers check someone's chromosomes before attacking them?

I bet they can tell which women identify as women and which were born women wink

SunsetBeetch Wed 03-Mar-21 18:12:29

Liquorishtoffee

I think that store wasn’t entirely truthful (if it’s the one I’m thinking of) and/or this person was the most unlucky person in the history of the world as every week there seemed to be another dramatic episode in their life on twitter.

I don't think it was the same person.

Uhohmummy Wed 03-Mar-21 18:38:11

Does it really have maps of the murder sites on the walls? That’s pretty awful and she has a point (although I agree her language is incorrect). When will we as a society stop glorifying violence against women?

HermitsLife Wed 03-Mar-21 19:00:49

Jack the Chipper??? Fucking hell angry

HermitsLife Wed 03-Mar-21 19:04:18

And yes a second vote for reading The Five, its an excellent book, a really good insight into the reality of women's lives in Victorian Britain.

jules0607 Wed 03-Mar-21 19:28:57

Statistics state gender based violence is extremely rare, especially compared to sex based violence. They’re being disingenuous

risefromyourgrave Wed 03-Mar-21 19:35:49

I give a third vote for The Five, it’s brilliant. Really humanises the women and tells you so much more about their lives instead of the reductive ‘they were prostitutes’.

donquixotedelamancha Wed 03-Mar-21 19:39:34

Do you think that rapists and abusers check someone's chromosomes before attacking them?

You must find dealing with humans very difficult if you have no clue what sex they are without a DNA test.

Presumably you misgender a lot of women with short hair wearing trousers and men who don't like football?

TwistedEyeOfHorus Wed 03-Mar-21 20:31:22

I have no idea where I am in the order, but The Five is excellent.
I wish we didn't have to use sex or gender to describe violence against women and girls. Wouldn't it be lovely if they were just left alone and safe?

GCAcademic Wed 03-Mar-21 20:37:28

yeahbutnaw

Do you think that rapists and abusers check someone's chromosomes before attacking them?

Do you think they check their gender identity?

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