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How many women (or men) identify as cisgender?

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hallouminatus · 17/02/2021 21:02

On another forum, I said "Most women don't identify as cisgender, and many feel that describing them as such is disrespectful". Someone has asked me for evidence of this. I think it's probably true, but I haven't seen any statistics or even estimates of numbers. I'm interested in any evidence or arguments which would either support or refute my statement.

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AlwaysColdHands · 17/02/2021 21:03

Not me 😊

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HoneysuckIejasmine · 17/02/2021 21:04

I think most women don't know what cisgender even means.

I think, but have no evidence for, that most women who do know what it means either (a) don't much care or (b) are insulted. I think the women who happily describe themselves this way, fully understanding the implications, are not a majority I've, but may be among different age profiles.

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HoneysuckIejasmine · 17/02/2021 21:05

... are not a majority overall, but may be among...

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MichelleScarn · 17/02/2021 21:05

Not me!

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tilder · 17/02/2021 21:05

I don't.

I would suspect most don't know what it means or why it is used.

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Fatandfifty49 · 17/02/2021 21:08

Isn't CIS what you are born with? If so, then yes

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Enidblyton1 · 17/02/2021 21:11

I have no idea what you’re talking about. I honestly think the majority of people wouldn’t either.

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Trunkysbun · 17/02/2021 21:13

I'm pretty laid back ... but if I was referred to as a CIS woman I would be offended as fuck!

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Biscuitsanddoombar · 17/02/2021 21:13

Nope! I’m not a subset of woman because there’s only way to be a woman and that’s to be born a human female

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bluebluediary · 17/02/2021 21:13

Female or woman. I don't need any other description, thanks and would strongly object to anyone calling me cis.

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BolloxtoGender · 17/02/2021 21:13

Most women don’t know what cisgender means, how disrespectful to assume the gender of and misgender a woman.

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GoldenBlue · 17/02/2021 21:14

I very strongly do not identify as CIS gender and would feel insulted if called CIS.

I am not a subclass of women, alongside men. I am a woman. It does not need any qualifier

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Sidesaladofchips · 17/02/2021 21:14

I am a woman plain and simple. Born and bred. Sorry not signing up for these ridiculous made up terms.

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AmethystMoonShine · 17/02/2021 21:16

No I donor used cis woman. Plain woman thank you.

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amy85 · 17/02/2021 21:16

Nope never and would be offended to be referred as a cis woman

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AmethystMoonShine · 17/02/2021 21:16

Don’t not bloody donor ffs! 🤦‍♀️

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gingercatsarebest · 17/02/2021 21:16

I do not identify as cis And I object to being called cis

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FrancesGumm · 17/02/2021 21:16

Same as GoldenBlue. I am a woman, an adult human female. I don’t want to be referred to as cisgender.

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RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 17/02/2021 21:17

No one i know has ever referred to themselves or anyone else as cis

The one exception to this would be the mother of a trans child who might possibly use it but again ive never heard her say it

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Blibbyblobby · 17/02/2021 21:18

Nope. Deeply offensive to me. Denies my experience and self-knowledge and replaces them with the definition of women created by men.

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corlan · 17/02/2021 21:21

I'd be amazed if most women had ever heard the term 'cisgender.' Most women don't ' identify' as anything. Unfortunately, this is one of the reasons that trans rights activists have made such gains - most women have very little idea that the category of 'woman' has been widened to include any man that 'identifies' as a woman.

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WeeBisom · 17/02/2021 21:23

Cis gender means your gender identity matches your sex. The genderbread person graphic (used to teach people about trans identity, you can see it at genderbread.org) says that gender identity means where you are in terms of “manness” and “womanness” with facets of gender identity including personality traits, hobbies, jobs , likes , dislikes . As an example they say that women are caring , kind , like children, and like to work as nurses or teachers. Men are logical, strong, leaders who like to work in the military or as engineers. So, with all this in mind, no I’m not cis. I don’t think my gender identity is “woman” if woman is defined in such a stereotypical way. I know we are supposed to accept that “cis” just means natal female or not trans, but if you look at the stonewall definitions it seems to be much more than that. You have to have the “woman” gender identity and it has to “match” your sex. I find this whole concept of my personality having to match to be sexist guff.

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BolloxtoGender · 17/02/2021 21:27

What absolute contrived rubbish Genderbread and Atonewall definitions are. Absolutely no resemblance to reality, and they teach this rubbish to children, no wonder they are confused.

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WhoWants2Know · 17/02/2021 21:27

I certainly do not identify as cisgender because gender is bullshit. I am a biological female.

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midgedude · 17/02/2021 21:28

I think men may well .. wouldn't want their masculinity questioned

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