Sunlight is increasingly shining on the conflict between women's rights and trans rights.
I am now comfortable talking about the issues with friends and family. Previously I would drop things into conversation but only continue if others picked it up, mostly they didn't or kind of looked at me like I am made because obviously nobody would ever put men into women's prisons or let men into women's weightlifting competitions.
Interestingly in the last couple of weeks people want to talk about it. Men in particular are saying to me "How did this happen?" and "What has been going on that I didn't notice?" Some lib-fem friends are starting to go "Hang on a minute, what is happening? How did I not see this?"
I end up rambling with too much random stuff about Stonewall, Keira Bell, lesbian erasure, AGP, non-crime hate incidents, the Connecticut runners, cotton ceiling, sex is not binary, ROGD, etc.
Please help me form simple explanations that I can use when somebody wants to engage but knows bugger all except the bits that have recently made it into the news.
I have noticed that the men have no doubt that AGP exists, some other men are utter bastards, they are bigger and stronger than women, sports matters, safety and dignity of their daughters matters, bad men will do anything to get at women (especially in prisons and gyms)
The women seem to get AGP, ROGD and cotton-ceiling quickly. They are seriously concerned about the affirmation only approach with children. They are terrified of being labelled as bigots.
Everybody is completely flummoxed as to how this has happened in a secular liberal democracy like the UK and, crucially, without them noticing and without politicians and "feminists" talking about it. As someone said "No way our politicians would have accepted #nodebate, you must have misunderstood"
Help me explain, frame and simplify?
Feminism: Sex & gender discussions
How did this happen?
Darcinian · 17/02/2021 11:41
@LunaHeather
The important thing is for them to take a stand.
I do feel as if I've been worried about this for years so it is odd to me when people wake up but the point is, we have them on board now.
We don't have them on board though. They are asking what the hell is going on. They see some smoke rising but haven't get spotted the bloody great fire.
I do not want to say "educate yourself"
They want to find out. The BBC isn't telling them. The Guardian isn't telling them. It never comes up in PMQs.
What's a good way to get someone engaged when they mention they think they might smell a bit of smoke?
How would you describe how ideological capture of the media and public institutions came about without descending into a rant (or maybe it's only me who goes like that 
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I tend to say that the government introduced the idea of legal sex change years ago as a way to avoid allowing gay marriage. Soon after some trans activists managed to take over some of the LGB organisations who were looking for new causes. It all seemed reasonable at first but then some bad actors started demanding legal fiction be taken as reality, mainly in America. Organisations' social media and HR teams jumped on the bandwagon to get their rainbow credentials without really thinking it through. It became really difficult for anyone to object to T goals because it would look like they were against LGB too, when they aren't.
I chuck in that the UK is at the forefront of challenging the craziness, being the first to start seriously questioning the use of puberty blockers etc.
The British do like to get on board with something where the UK is the most sensible one in the room pointing out the emperor's lack of clothes.
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