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ForenameSurname Mon 15-Feb-21 14:39:44

In case anyone wanted to send some Conservative Lords and Ladies an email about the Ministerial and Other Maternity Allowances Bill that is due for its second reading in the House of Lords on MONDAY 22ND FEBRUARY 2021, below is a template email for you (adapted from MFs original one) to adapt to your own needs/style, and in a separate post below is a list of email addresses pulled from www.members.parliament.uk/members/Lords.

(Note: I only included Conservative Lords/Ladies because… well… as last Thursday showed us, they are more likely to support this cause. That said, if anyone wants to provide an email list for other affiliated and non-affiliated peers, that would be good, too.)

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Dear [XXXX],

I am writing to draw your attention to the Ministerial and Other Maternity Allowances Bill which cleared the House of Commons after receiving an unopposed third reading on Thursday 11th February 2021.

I am, of course, delighted that ministers will receive formal paid maternity leave. No minister should have to resign in order to care for a newborn, and I am very glad that this issue will prompt the government to look at all state maternity (and paternity) provisions afresh.

What I was dismayed about, however, was the fact that a proposed amendment to the language of the bill was not made. Currently, Clause 1, Page 1, Line 14 of the bill says that the provision of payment of maternity allowance will be offered if:

(a) the person is pregnant and it is no more than 12 weeks before the expected week of childbirth;
(b) the person has given birth to a child within the previous 4 weeks.

The amendment, put forward by 19 Conservative MPs and 2 Labour MPs, was to - quite simply - replace the word "person" with "woman". Only women can get pregnant and so only women need be referred to in this passage.

I assume the use of the word "person" is a result of the guidance set out in the Guide to Gender-Neutral Drafting (2019) created by the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel and the Government Legal Department (the latter is a Stonewall Diversity Champion.) It was created with the help of the Interlaw Diversity Forum which is a private group that helps law firms improve their Stonewall Equality Index, and with the help of Global Butterlies which provides a “Corporate Trans and Non-Binary Inclusion Training and Consultancy.” All of those groups clearly have a vested interest in erasing the word ‘woman’ from legislation, and it is interesting to note that no women's rights groups were consulted in the writing of this document.

This drafting guidance encourages all bills to “avoid gender-specific pronouns and adjectives” which echoes Stonewall's guidance to HR departments (those whose institutions are Stonewall Diversity Champions and pay for Stonewall consultancy), which says:

The “use of Mother and Father has not been explicitly stated as inclusive of all trans identities. We would recommend using a gender neutral term, such as ‘parent who has given birth’ or ‘new mothers and other pregnant employees.’

This is yet another deliberate attempt to erase female-specific terminology under the guise of “inclusion”.

It is for that reason, as the bill passes onwards to the House of Lords on 22nd February 2021, that I implore you to propose again that same amendment: replace the word "person" with "woman". As of 2017, the UK only had 2 people identifying as men who gave birth. In attempting to accommodate this tiny cohort of transpeople who get pregnant, this bill and other sex-specific gender-neutral language offends innumerable women like me and we are asking you to make it stop.

I urge you to intervene. This is the thin end of the wedge of a stealthy policy creep that seeks to erase the specific sex-based rights and the biological reality of women in an attempt to include those who identify as men who, as years of evolutionary biology research makes absolutely clear, remain biological women irrespective of their gender identity.

Many thanks for taking the time to read this. I thank you in anticipation of your proposed amendment.

Kind regards,

[XXXX]

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ForenameSurname Mon 15-Feb-21 14:40:26

ahmadt@parliament.uk
altmannr@parliament.uk
questions@jeffreyarcher.co.uk
astorjj@parliament.uk
attleej@parliament.uk
richard.balfe@parliament.uk
batesm@parliament.uk
bethellj@parliament.uk
blackgv@parliament.uk
borwickgr@parliament.uk
brabazoni@parliament.uk
carringtonm@parliament.uk
chakrabartis@parliament.uk
choudreyz@parliament.uk
crathornej@parliament.uk
demauley@parliament.uk
duncani@parliament.uk
dunlopa@parliament.uk
eatonm@parliament.uk
fairfaxn@parliament.uk
flighth@parliament.uk
freudd@parliament.uk
geddese@parliament.uk
gilberts@parliament.uk
charl.newall@btconnect.com
ros@michaelgrade.com
greenhalghs@parliament.uk
hammondp@parliament.uk
haselhursta@parliament.uk
robertahayward11@gmail.com
hodgsonf@parliament.uk
hodgsonr@parliament.uk
holmesc@parliament.uk
jrhoram@gmail.com
howardm@parliament.uk
howelld@parliament.uk
huntd@parliament.uk
lexdena@parliament.uk
lilleyp@parliament.uk
lindsayj@parliament.uk
lucasr@parliament.uk
mackayjp@parliament.uk
marland@parliament.uk
mcinnesm@parliament.uk
mcintoshac@parliament.uk
mendozan@parliament.uk
meyerc@parliament.uk
morganna@parliament.uk
amnaseby@btinternet.com
ocathaind@parliament.uk
nevillerolfel@parliament.uk
northbrookf@parliament.uk
nortonp@parliament.uk
oshaughnessyj@parliament.uk
piddinge@parliament.uk
popatd@parliament.uk
dewdneyherbertl@parliament.uk
ranad@parliament.uk
randallj@parliament.uk
ribeirob@parliament.uk
ridleywm@parliament.uk
seccombej@parliament.uk
selkirkj@parliament.uk
selsdonm@parliament.uk
sharpea@parliament.uk
shrewsburyc@parliament.uk
pa@lordsterling.co.uk
swinfenr@parliament.uk
taylorjl@parliament.uk
tugendhatc@parliament.uk
vaizeye@parliament.uk
verec@parliament.uk
roddamdene@btinternet.com
warsis@parliament.uk
williamssb@parliament.uk
wolfsond@parliament.uk
youngerj@parliament.uk

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ForenameSurname Mon 15-Feb-21 14:43:00

Note, I have already received a reply from Lord Marlesford. Mixed success. He said he would vote for the amendment if it were tabled, but hopes I am finding a "suitable" Member of the Lords to table it.

Hopefully, Baroness Nicholson will be the one to actually table the amendment. Then her supportive fellow Conservative Lords and Ladies can simply vote for it.

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MenopausalCrone Mon 15-Feb-21 15:54:19

Thanks. Time to get emailing!

greatpurplepolkadots Mon 15-Feb-21 16:30:57

Is it safe to email from a personal address? Will it remain private?

ForenameSurname Mon 15-Feb-21 16:53:11

I might be wrong (perhaps someone legal can confirm?) but, as I understand it, personal emails are considered private correspondence under GDPR laws and so the Lords would not be able to share your personal data without your consent.

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ForenameSurname Mon 15-Feb-21 16:55:49

UPDATE:

Had a reply from a Baroness who has confirmed that an amendment has already been tabled and that she is having a meeting about the Bill tomorrow with 25 Lords.

Also had replies from several other Lords who have confirmed that they will be supporting the amendment next Monday.

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OhHolyJesus Mon 15-Feb-21 16:59:23

Quick work OP! Do you think we should still write at this time?

I have already emailed my MP who basically confirmed receipt.

Highwind Mon 15-Feb-21 17:00:26

I never used to be a fan of the House of Lords.... and saw them as an nothing more than an unelected bunch of old rich people.

Yet, they have been consistently good at asking the hard questions and pushing back on this topic, maybe I have mellowed in my age but I am starting to see their merit and becoming quite a fan.

I too shall send some emails.

Maggiemay48 Mon 15-Feb-21 18:31:19

Will start emailing now.

WeeTorag Mon 15-Feb-21 23:28:30

ForenameSurname

UPDATE:

Had a reply from a Baroness who has confirmed that an amendment has already been tabled and that she is having a meeting about the Bill tomorrow with 25 Lords.

Also had replies from several other Lords who have confirmed that they will be supporting the amendment next Monday.

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Oh she's bloody brilliant! A total 🌟

LizzieSiddal Tue 16-Feb-21 09:36:29

Thank you for updating, and thank goodness we have the Baroness on our side!

MenopausalCrone Tue 16-Feb-21 09:59:43

I got a couple of replies from Lords last night, both in agreement that the language of person/s rather than woman/women is totally outrageous and they will lend their support. Who knew🤷🏽‍♀️

gardenbird48 Tue 16-Feb-21 10:05:58

ForenameSurname

UPDATE:

Had a reply from a Baroness who has confirmed that an amendment has already been tabled and that she is having a meeting about the Bill tomorrow with 25 Lords.

Also had replies from several other Lords who have confirmed that they will be supporting the amendment next Monday.

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Excellent work Forename - I’ll get some emails out. I too am starting to appreciate the function of the Hof Lords more fully.

ForenameSurname Tue 16-Feb-21 10:34:07

And, for those who are interested in emailing about this and adding some pressure ahead of Monday, here is a list of non-affiliated/cross-bench Lords (also pulled from the Parliament website):

aberdarea@parliament.uk
afsharh@parliament.uk
altond@parliament.uk
david.anderson@brickcourt.co.uk
bhatiaa@parliament.uk
birdja@parliament.uk
birtj@parliament.uk
boothroyd@parliament.uk
bulld@parliament.uk
lord.butler@univ.ox.ac.uk
butlerslosse@parliament.uk
camerone@parliament.uk
campbelljs@parliament.uk
carey.andr@gmail.com
carlilea@parliament.uk
carringtonr@parliament.uk
carterst@parliament.uk
cashmanm@parliament.uk
colvillec@parliament.uk
coussinsj@parliament.uk
coxc@parliament.uk
craigd@parliament.uk
craigavonj@parliament.uk
crisp@parliament.uk
cromwellg@parliament.uk
curryd@parliament.uk
richard@richarddannat.com
deargj@parliament.uk
deechr@parliament.uk
dsouzaf@parliament.uk
robin.eames@yahoo.co.uk
falknerk@parliament.uk
finlayi@parliament.uk
foxcr@parliament.uk
freybergv@parliament.uk
agrabiner@oeclaw.co.uk
greena@parliament.uk
greenfieldsu@parliament.uk
greengrosss@parliament.uk
greythompsont@parliament.uk
d.h.a.hannay@gmail.com
haymanh@parliament.uk
hollinss@parliament.uk
hopejad@parliament.uk
inglewoodw@parliament.uk
jaymh@parliament.uk
alicia.kennedy@parliament.uk
johnkilclooney@hotmail.co.uk
office@mervynking.com
kinnoull@parliament.uk
john.krebs@zoo.ox.ac.uk
lamingh@parliament.uk
peter.levene@starrcompanies.com
loombar@parliament.uk
luptonj@parliament.uk
mannjl@parliament.uk
mashams@parliament.uk
meachermc@parliament.uk
churchillp@parliament.uk
dessna.company@tuta.io
patelkk@parliament.uk
pa@charlespowell.com
prasharu@parliament.uk
ramsbothamd@parliament.uk
sandwichj@parliament.uk
dalrymple5@parliament.uk
stowellt@parliament.uk
taylorjdb@parliament.uk
thomasjl@parliament.uk
thurlowr@parliament.uk
tongej@parliament.uk
tyriea@parliament.uk
uddinm@parliament.uk
wallacej@parliament.uk
enquiries@lordwalney.uk
warnern@parliament.uk
watkinsm@parliament.uk
JD@lordwaverley.com
willoughbyl@parliament.uk
wolfa@parliament.uk
younglo@parliament.uk

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Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons Tue 16-Feb-21 10:56:42

Excellent thank you I shall get emailing today (in between making bloody pancakes hmm)

MenopausalCrone Wed 17-Feb-21 16:55:31

I have now had lots of replies from emails sent. This is very encouraging so thank you Forename

MoleSmokes Sun 21-Feb-21 04:22:28

”Tory rips into woke bill that ‘abolishes’ gender, quotes Orwell’s 1984”

Published on 19 Feb 2021
Sir John Hayes seeks to amend a bill that grants ministers’ paid maternity leave as it refuses to acknowledge gender, instead referring to ‘pregnant people’ in an effort to be more ‘gender-inclusive’.

youtu.be/0SmAG5kZvDA

Sir John Hayes, Conservative, South Holland and The Deepings, has been a consistent Gender Critical voice in The Commons.

members.parliament.uk/member/350/career

SmallPug Sun 21-Feb-21 05:32:09

I notice Michael Cashman on the list - don't bother including him. He is a very active TRA and pretty misogynistic.

MForstater Mon 22-Feb-21 10:53:55

Have sent this briefing to all the speakers (and others on the email list - thanks!)

drive.google.com/file/d/1r6SMDWVXIMIVZGqgimLcSClDePnkURpk/view

Olderstyle1 Mon 22-Feb-21 13:54:53

MOMA debate starting at 3pm in HoL, and continuing till around 7pm.

At least 14 GC peers down to speak up for women instead of persons. Go peers!

parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/0ca59b7f-0018-470a-851a-ce1562544ec5

Highwind Mon 22-Feb-21 15:44:57

Wonderful speech by Baroness Noakes during the debate.

Olderstyle1 Mon 22-Feb-21 16:05:21

Stunning! Terf central.
parliamentlive.tv/event/index/0ca59b7f-0018-470a-851a-ce1562544ec5?in=15:17:45&out=15:26:30

Highwind Mon 22-Feb-21 16:22:44

Lord Hunt was also on fire. I am bowled over by the common sense on display in the House of Lords today.

Definitely worth a watch.

Ereshkigalangcleg Mon 22-Feb-21 16:26:49

Just watched Baroness Noakes, fantastic speech!

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