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Gender GP - Safeguarding Concerns

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SunsetBeetch · 30/12/2020 16:34

Might be worth keeping an eye on Danial's account (unless and until it gets suspended). He is collecting concerning stories about Gender GP.

twitter.com/DanialWebb/status/1343815417417101312?s=20

THREAD: Since my recent tweets about GenderGP I've had several clinicians contact me with grave concerns around horrendous safeguarding failures with GenderGP's operation. I'm going to recount one here today. Others will follow. 1/5

Case one concerns a girl, aged 15, with a long history of repeated suicide attempts, some requiring hospitalisation. She identified as trans though her neither parents nor her clinician agreed, seeing instead a profoundly traumatised child. 2/5

This child, aged, 15, travelled to GenderGP in Wales. Without any consultation with CAMHS or GIDS ot he child's parents, GenderGP prescribed testosterone the same day. The child is now a young woman aged 18, identifying as a transman. 3/5

Despite GIDS/GIC taking over prescribing, despite the breast removal, despite being rehoused by the local authority to escape 'transphobic' parents, the self harm and suicide attempts continue. 4/5

To recap, GenderGP prescribed testosterone to a 15 year old girl with a long history of suicide attempts, after a single appointment, without any reference to her parents or to local mental health services.

Why are the directors of GenderGP not facing prosecution for this? 5/5

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SunsetBeetch · 30/12/2020 16:37

twitter.com/DanialWebb/status/1341745788486082562?s=20

THREAD: This heartbreaking fundraiser demonstrates the danger to safeguarding vulnerable children posed by GoFundMe. Bradley Williams is a 16 year old girl seeking money for testosterone. As Bradley is under 18, his mother has approved this fundraiser. 1/4

Bradley was under the care of GIDS. However is is unlikely that he would automatically receive the testosterone that he desires. In his account, GIDS declined any medical intervention for three years, suggesting Bradley's request would have to be decided by the court. 2/4

GenderGP have no such qualms though. They are already taking his money and supplying him with testosterone. Will they have sought his care records? Ought they have paused and reflected that GIDS chose to withhold drug treatment? 3/4

This is the danger with the affirmative model. It places a colossal burden on children to make life-changing decisions while taking no responsibility if they get it wrong. GoFundMe, GenderGP and its counsellors are failing these children utterly. 4/4

twitter.com/helsbells36/status/1343847707547488256?s=20

gpcpd.heiw.wales/clinical/gender-diversity/
Just wondered if you've seen this training module for GPs in Wales recently released. Very heavy on affirmation, also keen to link autism with trans. Difficult times for health services but we must pay attention and continue to challenge.

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OhHolyJesus · 30/12/2020 16:48

The one of the new co chair of Green Party Women has an advisory role with GG.

The Greens don't have a great track record with safeguarding so one to watch.

As Webberley is temporarily suspended I don't know how her and her husband can get away with it, genuinely, how can she be practising and don't the GMC have an eye on her?

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Angryresister · 30/12/2020 16:55

Does anyone know of her whereabouts these days?

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OldCrone · 30/12/2020 17:20

As Webberley is temporarily suspended I don't know how her and her husband can get away with it, genuinely, how can she be practising and don't the GMC have an eye on her?

Webberley has sold GenderGP to a company based in Hong Kong.

www.gendergp.com/statement-from-harland-international-ltd-trading-as-gendergp/

She's been using other doctors to write the prescriptions since her suspension in 2017.

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RozWatching · 30/12/2020 17:51

Webberley has sold GenderGP to a company based in Hong Kong.

The proud new owners of GenderGP haven't made themselves known, so it's likely that ownership has changed on paper only, which is technically legal but morally highly questionable.

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Thingybob · 30/12/2020 17:56

@OhHolyJesus

The one of the new co chair of Green Party Women has an advisory role with GG.

The Greens don't have a great track record with safeguarding so one to watch.

As Webberley is temporarily suspended I don't know how her and her husband can get away with it, genuinely, how can she be practising and don't the GMC have an eye on her?

Looking at their Linkedin profile it's hard to see how they are a suitable person to be advising vulnerable people.
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midclegs · 30/12/2020 18:06

Aren't the Ws in Spain? Definitely not in the U.K. Weren't they using a loophole to send scripts to a dodgy chemist in the U.K.?

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Redsquareoctopus · 30/12/2020 18:16

Danial has gone some excellent digging about the whereabouts of the webberleys

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BoreOfWhabylon · 30/12/2020 18:22
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SunsetBeetch · 30/12/2020 19:37

Wow, he's good isn't he?

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 30/12/2020 20:43

Webberly's have other medics writing prescriptions for them?

Is that, erm, legal?

Who on earth would be near by and willing and qualified to write prescriptions for people using Gender GP?

In an unrelated observation, Dr H has recently left twitter, didn't he?

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SunsetBeetch · 31/12/2020 14:34

YIKES

Noted Woke Idiot Neville Southall handed over his account to someone who works for GenderGP on 17 December.

I've posted a selection of the more "interesting" tweets below - there are lots more on the Adult Baby's page.

Thank you so much to the wonderful
@Nevillesouthall
for sharing his platform with the trans community. It’s been brilliant to be able to share my experiences with so many new people. If you would like to keep chatting, follow me
@oakesmarianne
. #TransTherapist

twitter.com/NevilleSouthall/status/1339675401220739072?s=20

My workplace
@GenderGP
run a Live Chat during business hours where you can ask trans healthcare related questions. We also have a fund for trans youth that pays for their healthcare costs which you can find out more about or donate to here,

twitter.com/NevilleSouthall/status/1339675403259174912?s=20

There is actually a great deal of evidence available from centres of excellence in the treatment of trans kids worldwide. What we don’t have is evidence published by the NHS.
@oakesmarianne
#TransTherapist

twitter.com/NevilleSouthall/status/1339667983250153478?s=20

We know that puberty blockers are reversible

twitter.com/NevilleSouthall/status/1339667985305366540?s=20

And while there has been plenty of misinformation about puberty blockers, this has been debunked

twitter.com/NevilleSouthall/status/1339667987012448257?s=20


Less than 1% of the 3,398 trans patients who accessed NHS support went on to detransition. Many of the people who detransition say that their reasons for doing so weren't regret, but rather lack of support from families and communities.
@oakesmarianne
#TransTherapist

twitter.com/NevilleSouthall/status/1339665383456960514?s=20

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hoodathunkit · 01/01/2021 15:10

Of course there are safeguarding concerns

One of my first posts on mumsnet identified the various therapists working with Gender GP as a significant number of them were using non-evidence based therapeutic modalities that would be considered to the snake oil at best and dangerous and manipulative at worst by rational, skeptical, scientifically informed persons.

I spent a couple of days researching it and, unfortunately did not keep a back up of my work before posting it here in the form of several posts on a new thread about my concerns.

My posts removed following a pile on and accusations of doxxing and transphobia, which left me shocked as all I was doing was raising safeguarding concerns.

No time to do it all over again but I would strongly recommend that any journalists or activists with time on their hands might want to take a closer look at the qualifications and affiliations of the various therapists working with gender GP.

Researchers need to be aware that many methodoligies that practitioners claim to be evidence based and peer reviewed are in fact not evidence based at all and are simply reviewed by "peers" who share the same bizarre beliefs.

Feeling quite distressed if people have been harmed because I was too naive about pile ons to keep a back up of my work.

To be fair to Gender GP quackery and cult infiltration is rife within the psychotherapy and counselling fields generally, not just re LGBTIQ+++whatever circles, but Pink Therapy and Gender GP therapists are especially noticable in this respect.

I am busy writing about the current dire situation in general but would be happy to answer questions about concerns about methodologies if anyone has them.

If anyone from Pink Therapy or Gender GP wants to engage in a conversation here I'd be up for that.

While I did not keep notes of my research I did take multiple screen shots and can back up my position with evidence, althoug it might be later today / tonight before I can post again.

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SunsetBeetch · 01/01/2021 18:05

Thanks hoodathunkit. Sorry to hear about your previous posts.

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SunsetBeetch · 01/01/2021 18:14

Danial has done a thread on Kathryn Bristow.

twitter.com/DanialWebb/status/1344573750591844352?s=20


"Kathryn Bristow works for GenderGP as a pathway advisor, supporting customers seeking to buy puberty blockers and cross sex hormones. For this service GenderGP charges customers £25 for a 15-minute chat with Kathryn, who has no clinical training whatsoever. 2/"

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hoodathunkit · 01/01/2021 18:40

Thanks SunsetBeetch

Apologies for the rant. I just remembered how stupid I felt when all my research disappeared. It taught me to back everything up, so lesson learned.

I am just very, very distressed about the terrible harm done to vulnerable people by (possibly well meaning - I cannot comment on people's motives) "therapists".

IMMIC there were a lot of therapies involving new age charlatanry, NLP / hypnosis and false memories.

If anyone wants to research this properly I almost cerntainly have access to critiques and debunkings of the therapeutic modalities concerned and possible also some other material of interest.

As always, I am genuninely concerned to protect vulnerable people and I do understand that many therapists are well meaning but still capable of harming vulnerable people. It happens with people in cults all the time

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hoodathunkit · 01/01/2021 18:55

Danial has done a thread on Kathryn Bristow.

He's on fire!

Impressive, but heartbreaking reading

Anyone familiar with the Qanon and related SRA conspiracy theories will know that there is currently a disinformation campaign to style the UK as a nation of child abusers.

If we allow Gender GP and other related, similar services to hurt children we are adding fuel to the fire of the people who wish to hurt the UK and are happy to use children and vulneable adults as pawns in the war.

We must not let up our struggle against this appalling wave of oppressive insanity

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BoreOfWhabylon · 01/01/2021 20:00

Who is Danial Webb, does anyone know?

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Redsquareoctopus · 01/01/2021 23:46

I don’t know who he is but I have contacted him and he is working with a barrister.

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Molesmokes · 03/01/2021 04:39

On another thread, Danial says that he discovered that the Webberleys are in the UK, not Spain (sorry it was a few days ago that I saw it and I don’t have the link).

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SunsetBeetch · 03/01/2021 10:05

@Molesmokes

On another thread, Danial says that he discovered that the Webberleys are in the UK, not Spain (sorry it was a few days ago that I saw it and I don’t have the link).

Somebody in the comments of a Times article was saying the same thing.
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SunsetBeetch · 03/01/2021 10:08

Found it

twitter.com/DanialWebb/status/1339675398796406788?s=20

"Where is GenderGP really located. The company registration is held in trust in Belize, but can you really say that it is outside the UK, when it appears that all of its staff are based in the UK?"

"Helen Webberley, its founder, appears to be living in Cardiff."

Gender GP - Safeguarding Concerns
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Molesmokes · 04/01/2021 04:39

SunsetBeech Brilliant!

It is all very odd. There was so much tearing of hair and weeping and wailing from the Webberleys at the time about having to relocate to Spain. The CQC and GMC should surely be bothered enough to check this out? One hopes!

Twitter thread archived:
archive.is/nO6fD

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FannyCann · 04/01/2021 07:01

Excellent sleuthing.

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merrymouse · 04/01/2021 07:01

“Where is GenderGP really located. The company registration is held in trust in Belize, but can you really say that it is outside the UK, when it appears that all of its staff are based in the UK?”

For tax purposes, no - if all the staff are in the U.K. and everything seems to be run from the U.K., it is a U.K. based company.

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